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What do the Quran and Hadith predict about the end of the Apartheid state of Israel?

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Which retard made that map?

Qatar, Oman and Kuwait, Egypt and Jordan are all pro-Arab (being Arab themselves) and will always pick KSA over a foreign entity like Iran. The first 3 are GCC member states too. The GCC has a security pact that binds every member. Egypt and Jordan are close allies of all those Arab states in question and most importantly 99% + of their population would always pick their own (Arabs) over Iran.

Iraq is not "anti-Arab" either, being an Arab country themselves. Iraq has great/close relations with numerous Arab states, including KSA nowadays. Al-Assad Syria is a nationalist Arab Ba'ath regime. Their alliance with the Mullah's of Iran are only bound by coincidences, the main reason being internal Ba'ath rivalry between Ba'ath-ruled Syria and once Ba'ath-ruled Iraq.

Houthis only use Iranian money for their own gains, they are a completely different sect (Zaydi) and have nothing in common with Iran overall. If Guatemala or North Korea was supporting them, they would be pro those countries.

You think that political ideology/political interests, are going to triumph over blood, culture, ethnicity, language, several millennia old history, natural alliances, family and ancestral ties, religious tie etc.?

No wonder that your Mullah's are naive.

Another thing, has anyone ever wondered how come every single known Prophet in all 3 Abrahamic religions (Judaism, Christianity and Islam) are all Semitic in origin, meaning either Jewish/Israelite, Arab or other Semitic races?

israel isnt going down yet they have biological race specific weopons to deal with arabs. but arabs are busy being arabs and belly dancing.

Interesting. You do know that 2/3 of all Israeli Jews are Arab Jews in origin, meaning for instance Yemeni Jews or Moroccan Jews or Iraqi Jews? They are genetically identical to their Arab Muslim/Christian brethren by large. Similarly most European Jews have Semitic/West Asian ancestry as confirmed by almost every DNA test out there nowadays.

Not only that, the known Sayyid/Sadah lines (paternal descendants of the paternal line of Prophet Muhammad (saws) and the Cohen (Rabbinic line that claims descent from Prophet Ibrahim (as), have been proved to belong to the same Y-haplogroup, confirming the known millennial old literature, oral traditions, religious beliefs etc. of both Arabs and Jews being paternal descendants of Prophet Ibrahim (as).



Prophets Ibrahim (Abraham), Ismael (Ishmael), Ishac (Isaac), Haroon (Aaron), and Mohamad (PBUH&P) are considered major forefathers in the J1 phylogenetic tree. Today, many groups and families claim to be direct male-descendants of these respected forefathers but they find themselves positioned in distant genetic lines and periods. Thus far, FGC8712 is the only SNP that maintain two parallel descending lines with: one line is 100% Ishamelite-Adnanite (~300 kits) and the other one is 100% Jacobite (~45 kits). The age of FGC8712 subclade is believed to be between 3400 and 4200 yBP (years before present).

Therefore, individuals who tested positive for this respected Y genetic marker (FGC8712) are encouraged to join the Quraysh & Bani Hashem project.

In other words, Jews/Israelites are just another branch of Arabs. The first Jewish/Israelite tribes arrived to Southern Levant from nearby Arabia.

In fact one of the most famous Jewish kings was a Hejazi ethnically.


Herod was born around 72 BCE[9] in Idumea, south of Judea.[10] He was the second son of Antipater the Idumaean, a high-ranking official under ethnarch Hyrcanus II, and Cypros, a Nabatean Arab princess from Petra (in present-day Jordan). Herod's father was by descent an Edomite with a Jewish mother; his ancestors had converted to Judaism. Herod was raised as a Jew.[11][12][13][14][15][16] Strabo, a contemporary of Herod, held that the Idumaeans, whom he identified as of Nabataean origin, constituted the majority of the population of western Judea, where they commingled with the Judaeans and adopted their customs.[17] This is a view shared also by some modern scholarly works which consider Idumaeans as of Arab or Nabataean origins.[18][19][20][21] Thus Herod's ethnic background was Arab on both sides of his family.[12][11]

Where have you been living? :what:

I am looking at such topics from a long-term historical perspective. Not just recent history. Everything that I wrote is based on fact. Your one-liner response tells the entire story.

I challenge you or anyone else to provide arguments that go against any of my factual points that I wrote.
 
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Which retard made that map?

Qatar, Oman and Kuwait, Egypt and Jordan are all pro-Arab (being Arab themselves) and will always pick KSA over a foreign entity like Iran. The first 3 are GCC member states too. The GCC has a security pact that binds every member. Egypt and Jordan are close allies of all those Arab states in question and most importantly 99% + of their population would always pick their own (Arabs) over Iran.

Iraq is not "anti-Arab" either, being an Arab country themselves. Iraq has great/close relations with numerous Arab states, including KSA nowadays. Al-Assad Syria is a nationalist Arab Ba'ath regime. Their alliance with the Mullah's of Iran are only bound by coincidences, the main reason being internal Ba'ath rivalry between Ba'ath-ruled Syria and once Ba'ath-ruled Iraq.

Houthis only use Iranian money for their own gains, they are a completely different sect (Zaydi) and have nothing in common with Iran overall. If Guatemala or North Korea was supporting them, they would be pro those countries.

You think that political ideology/political interests, are going to triumph over blood, culture, ethnicity, language, millennia old history, natural alliances, tribal ties, religious etc.?

No wonder that your Mullah's are naive.

Another thing, has anyone ever wondered how come every single known Prophet in all 3 Abrahamic religions (Judaism, Christianity and Islam) are all Semitic in origin, meaning either Jewish/Israelite, Arab or other Semitic races?



Interesting. You do know that 2/3 of all Israeli Jews are Arab Jews in origin, meaning for instance Yemeni Jews or Moroccan Jews or Iraqi Jews? They are genetically identical to their Arab Muslim/Christian brethren by large. Similarly most European Jews have Semitic/West Asian ancestry as confirmed by almost every DNA test out there nowadays.

Not only that, the known Sayyid/Sadah lines (paternal descendants of the paternal line of Prophet Muhammad (saws) and the Cohen (Rabbinic line that claims descent from Prophet Ibrahim (as), have been proved to belong to the same Y-haplogroup, confirming the known millennial old literature, oral traditions, religious beliefs etc. of both Arabs and Jews being paternal descendants of Prophet Ibrahim (as).



Prophets Ibrahim (Abraham), Ismael (Ishmael), Ishac (Isaac), Haroon (Aaron), and Mohamad (PBUH&P) are considered major forefathers in the J1 phylogenetic tree. Today, many groups and families claim to be direct male-descendants of these respected forefathers but they find themselves positioned in distant genetic lines and periods. Thus far, FGC8712 is the only SNP that maintain two parallel descending lines with: one line is 100% Ishamelite-Adnanite (~300 kits) and the other one is 100% Jacobite (~45 kits). The age of FGC8712 subclade is believed to be between 3400 and 4200 yBP (years before present).

Therefore, individuals who tested positive for this respected Y genetic marker (FGC8712) are encouraged to join the Quraysh & Bani Hashem project.
In other words, Jews/Israelites are just another branch of Arabs. The first Jewish/Israelite tribes arrived to Southern Levant from nearby Arabia.

In fact one of the most famous Jewish kings was a Hejazi ethnically.


Herod was born around 72 BCE[9] in Idumea, south of Judea.[10] He was the second son of Antipater the Idumaean, a high-ranking official under ethnarch Hyrcanus II, and Cypros, a Nabatean Arab princess from Petra (in present-day Jordan). Herod's father was by descent an Edomite with a Jewish mother; his ancestors had converted to Judaism. Herod was raised as a Jew.[11][12][13][14][15][16] Strabo, a contemporary of Herod, held that the Idumaeans, whom he identified as of Nabataean origin, constituted the majority of the population of western Judea, where they commingled with the Judaeans and adopted their customs.[17] This is a view shared also by some modern scholarly works which consider Idumaeans as of Arab or Nabataean origins.[18][19][20][21] Thus Herod's ethnic background was Arab on both sides of his family.[12][11]



I am looking at such topics from a long-term historical perspective. Not just recent history. Everything that I wrote is based on fact. Your one-liner response tells the entire story.

I challenge you or anyone else to provide arguments that go against any of my factual points that I wrote.
Good for you. Keep up the good work. Leave all the support Israel receives from so-called Muslim countries and leaders, just enlighten us about Israel's ethics, moral grounds, treatment of Palestinian Muslims, encroachment and invading in other countries, etc. I will love to hear your sermon.
 
Good for you. Keep up the good work. Leave all the support Israel receives from so-called Muslim countries and leaders, just enlighten us about Israel's ethics, moral grounds, treatment of Palestinian Muslims, encroachment and invading in other countries, etc. I will love to hear your sermon.

What has current day Israel state (regime) policies within Israel and Palestine to do with the topics that I wrote about? Kindly enlighten me.

You do realize that at least 50% of all Israeli Jews are against their regime's policy? From what I know most Israelis agree with the establishment of an independent Palestinian state. Only the ultra-religious Zionists are vehemently against.

From your flags, I can see that you are based in the UAE. You do know that UAE has recognized Israel and vice versa and that 100.000's of Israelis have been visiting UAE since then and some are even based there already?

You think that the incompetent Iranian Mullah's and other charlatans are even capable of doing anything against Israel or any other Muslim nation for that matter? You are wasting your time.

Rather than idiotic hatred against a group of people (Jews) that Muslims share more with than anyone else, you ought to educate yourself about the history in question and reach out to the non-anti-Muslim/Arab Israelis (who are in the majority) in order for them to realize, that we are not enemies. Historically that was also the case by large.

Anyway you might feel closer to Hindu Indians, Sikhs, Buddhists whatever. Your choice. I don't believe that Muslims and Jews are enemies, rather they are natural allies. Land-dispute based on ethnic nationalism, is what it is, land has been fought over by humans for millennia, not for the first or last time. Has nothing to do with religion or history.

Case in point, some of the biggest Palestinian nationalistic figures were Christian Palestinians.

Outside Muslims (non-local Muslims) are making geopolitical/ethnic/post-colonial wars into religious wars even though they have little or nothing to do with it at its core.

Palestine, Chechnya, North Ireland, Kashmir, Kurds, Balkans etc.
 
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According to Christian doctrine he died (specifically for sins), yet Christianity also preaches he will be back. You don't see a contradiction?
No,because the dead will be ressurected and each person judged.


The Bible states:

Now when He had spoken these things, while they watched, He was taken up, and a cloud received Him out of their sight. And while they looked steadfastly toward heaven as He went up, behold, two men stood by them in white apparel, who also said, "Men of Galilee, why do you stand gazing up into heaven? This same Jesus, who was taken up from you into heaven, will so come in like manner as you saw Him go into heaven." [Acts 1:9-11]
Many, but not all, Christians believe:


  1. The coming of Christ will be instantaneous and worldwide.[108] "For as the lightning comes from the east and flashes to the west, so also will the coming of the Son of Man be." ~ Matthew 24:27
  2. The coming of Christ will be visible to all.[109] "Then the sign of the Son of Man will appear in heaven, and then all the tribes of the earth will mourn, and they will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory." Matthew 24:30
  3. The coming of Christ will be audible.[110] "And He will send His angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they will gather together His elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other." Matthew 24:31
  4. The resurrection of the righteous will occur first.[111] "For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of an archangel, and with the trumpet of God. And the dead in Christ will rise first." ~ 1 Thessalonians 4:16
  5. In one single event, the saved who are alive at Christ's coming will be caught up together with the resurrected to meet the Lord in the air.[112] "Then we who are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And thus we shall always be with the Lord." ~ 1 Thessalonians 4:17
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No,because the dead will be ressurected and each person judged.


The Bible states:

Now when He had spoken these things, while they watched, He was taken up, and a cloud received Him out of their sight. And while they looked steadfastly toward heaven as He went up, behold, two men stood by them in white apparel, who also said, "Men of Galilee, why do you stand gazing up into heaven? This same Jesus, who was taken up from you into heaven, will so come in like manner as you saw Him go into heaven." [Acts 1:9-11]
Many, but not all, Christians believe:



  1. The coming of Christ will be instantaneous and worldwide.[108] "For as the lightning comes from the east and flashes to the west, so also will the coming of the Son of Man be." ~ Matthew 24:27
  2. The coming of Christ will be visible to all.[109] "Then the sign of the Son of Man will appear in heaven, and then all the tribes of the earth will mourn, and they will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory." Matthew 24:30
  3. The coming of Christ will be audible.[110] "And He will send His angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they will gather together His elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other." Matthew 24:31
  4. The resurrection of the righteous will occur first.[111] "For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of an archangel, and with the trumpet of God. And the dead in Christ will rise first." ~ 1 Thessalonians 4:16
  5. In one single event, the saved who are alive at Christ's coming will be caught up together with the resurrected to meet the Lord in the air.[112] "Then we who are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And thus we shall always be with the Lord." ~ 1 Thessalonians 4:17
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As Muslims we only believe in the original unaltered Bible (unfortunately not available). The current Bible has so many things altered/changed through different writers/authors.
The only things which are similar in what says Quran are acceptable as Quran is the only Holy (and last) book that is 100% in the same form as it was revealed by Allah.
 
As Muslims we only believe in the original unaltered Bible (unfortunately not available). The current Bible has so many things altered/changed through different writers/authors.
The only things which are similar in what says Quran are acceptable as Quran is the only Holy (and last) book that is 100% in the same form as it was revealed by Allah.
No,you just made your own "bible". That's what you did. And then said "Oh,Christians changed the Bible,so it's not really the truth".

But the Lord warned about false prophets that would come.
 
Which retard made that map?

Qatar, Oman and Kuwait, Egypt and Jordan are all pro-Arab (being Arab themselves) and will always pick KSA over a foreign entity like Iran. The first 3 are GCC member states too. The GCC has a security pact that binds every member. Egypt and Jordan are close allies of all those Arab states in question and most importantly 99% + of their population would always pick their own (Arabs) over Iran.

Iraq is not "anti-Arab" either, being an Arab country themselves. Iraq has great/close relations with numerous Arab states, including KSA nowadays. Al-Assad Syria is a nationalist Arab Ba'ath regime. Their alliance with the Mullah's of Iran are only bound by coincidences, the main reason being internal Ba'ath rivalry between Ba'ath-ruled Syria and once Ba'ath-ruled Iraq.

Houthis only use Iranian money for their own gains, they are a completely different sect (Zaydi) and have nothing in common with Iran overall. If Guatemala or North Korea was supporting them, they would be pro those countries.

You think that political ideology/political interests, are going to triumph over blood, culture, ethnicity, language, several millennia old history, natural alliances, family and ancestral ties, religious tie etc.?

No wonder that your Mullah's are naive.

Another thing, has anyone ever wondered how come every single known Prophet in all 3 Abrahamic religions (Judaism, Christianity and Islam) are all Semitic in origin, meaning either Jewish/Israelite, Arab or other Semitic races?



Interesting. You do know that 2/3 of all Israeli Jews are Arab Jews in origin, meaning for instance Yemeni Jews or Moroccan Jews or Iraqi Jews? They are genetically identical to their Arab Muslim/Christian brethren by large. Similarly most European Jews have Semitic/West Asian ancestry as confirmed by almost every DNA test out there nowadays.

Not only that, the known Sayyid/Sadah lines (paternal descendants of the paternal line of Prophet Muhammad (saws) and the Cohen (Rabbinic line that claims descent from Prophet Ibrahim (as), have been proved to belong to the same Y-haplogroup, confirming the known millennial old literature, oral traditions, religious beliefs etc. of both Arabs and Jews being paternal descendants of Prophet Ibrahim (as).



Prophets Ibrahim (Abraham), Ismael (Ishmael), Ishac (Isaac), Haroon (Aaron), and Mohamad (PBUH&P) are considered major forefathers in the J1 phylogenetic tree. Today, many groups and families claim to be direct male-descendants of these respected forefathers but they find themselves positioned in distant genetic lines and periods. Thus far, FGC8712 is the only SNP that maintain two parallel descending lines with: one line is 100% Ishamelite-Adnanite (~300 kits) and the other one is 100% Jacobite (~45 kits). The age of FGC8712 subclade is believed to be between 3400 and 4200 yBP (years before present).

Therefore, individuals who tested positive for this respected Y genetic marker (FGC8712) are encouraged to join the Quraysh & Bani Hashem project.

In other words, Jews/Israelites are just another branch of Arabs. The first Jewish/Israelite tribes arrived to Southern Levant from nearby Arabia.

In fact one of the most famous Jewish kings was a Hejazi ethnically.


Herod was born around 72 BCE[9] in Idumea, south of Judea.[10] He was the second son of Antipater the Idumaean, a high-ranking official under ethnarch Hyrcanus II, and Cypros, a Nabatean Arab princess from Petra (in present-day Jordan). Herod's father was by descent an Edomite with a Jewish mother; his ancestors had converted to Judaism. Herod was raised as a Jew.[11][12][13][14][15][16] Strabo, a contemporary of Herod, held that the Idumaeans, whom he identified as of Nabataean origin, constituted the majority of the population of western Judea, where they commingled with the Judaeans and adopted their customs.[17] This is a view shared also by some modern scholarly works which consider Idumaeans as of Arab or Nabataean origins.[18][19][20][21] Thus Herod's ethnic background was Arab on both sides of his family.[12][11]



I am looking at such topics from a long-term historical perspective. Not just recent history. Everything that I wrote is based on fact. Your one-liner response tells the entire story.

I challenge you or anyone else to provide arguments that go against any of my factual points that I wrote.
We have an other @saif el Arab here.

Btw, that map is made by a western analyst. Go spew your nonsense on his head not me.
 
No,you just made your own "bible". That's what you did. And then said "Oh,Christians changed the Bible,so it's not really the truth".
A non-believer is a non-believer no matter how many facts and valid arguments one can give to them. Here I cannot force you into something. It is an open case to every sane person that the Bible was changed many many times over time, while, there is complete and 100% evidence that the Quran is in its same exact and 100% pure form since its time of revelation 1400 hundred years ago.
If you do not want to buy it then there is no point in going further.
You can simply ignore me.
 
No,you just made your own "bible". That's what you did. And then said "Oh,Christians changed the Bible,so it's not really the truth".

But the Lord warned about false prophets that would come.
There are two dozen versions of bible. Fact is bible was written years after Jesus (p.b.u.h) and no one knows who actually wrote the Bible.
 
There are two dozen versions of bible. Fact is bible was written years after Jesus (p.b.u.h) and no one knows who actually wrote the Bible.
Exactly. While Quran has one single version, right since 1400 years. Not even an alphabet is different from one corner of the world to the other corner of the world.....in its whole history.
 
We have an other @saif el Arab here.

Btw, that map is made by a western analyst. Go spew your nonsense on his head not me.

Are you completely deluded?

Are you saying that GCC states that have a security pact with the GCC and are completely pro-KSA states and other Arab states that are similarly completely pro-KSA and pro-Arab as a whole are more pro-Mullah Iran rather than pro-KSA and pro-Arab while being Arab themselves?

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Who gives a **** about Westerners? They are clueless about the region by large.

Countries like Jordan won't survive a single day without Arab help. They would have been swallowed by Israel a long time ago. If KSA say jump, they are going to jump. Keep believing that they are pro-Iran or "neutral". Egypt as well.

Forget about KSA, in which world will Arabs prefer Iran over their own?

Even more so when it is just a question of time before a secular/nationalistic Iran emerges. Once that happens the only bond that binds those current pro-Iran Arab groups/terrorist groups/dictators such as Al-Assad currently (anti-USA/West nonsense rhetoric, need of outside patrons given the little support from the Arab world for those minority groups) will be gone.


Your regime has wasted 100's of billions of Iran's wealth on failed long-term projects in order to create chaos in the region while the average Iranian is struggling to make a living. All due to sucking up to a bunch of Arabs that you Iranians dislike by large anyway and vice versa. Congratulations.
 
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A non-believer is a non-believer no matter how many facts and valid arguments one can give to them. Here I cannot force you into something. It is an open case to every sane person that the Bible was changed many many times over time, while, there is complete and 100% evidence that the Quran is in its same exact and 100% pure form since its time of revelation 1400 hundred years ago.
If you do not want to buy it then there is no point in going further.
You can simply ignore me.
But what makes you think that the Quran is the truth?

There are two dozen versions of bible. Fact is bible was written years after Jesus (p.b.u.h) and no one knows who actually wrote the Bible.
Sir,I am Eastern Orthodox. We have preserved our faith since the days of the first Christians. We're not American protestants who change everything they don't like or print their own Bibles.
 
But what makes you think that the Quran is the truth?
Because it is the word of Allah. A Miracle. No human can create such a thing. And because it was is testifies to its own claim that it can never be changed or erased (it is the same since its revelation). Now, do not act like a retard.
 
Sir,I am Eastern Orthodox. We have preserved our faith since the days of the first Christians. We're not American protestants who change everything they don't like or print their own Bibles.
First bible wasn’t even written until 100 years after Jesus. Which means no one who saw Jesus was even alive when bible was being written. Rest you can guess how authentic is the book and it’s traditions.
 
But what makes you think that the Quran is the truth?


Sir,I am Eastern Orthodox. We have preserved our faith since the days of the first Christians. We're not American protestants who change everything they don't like or print their own Bibles.
Does not answer the Question of why the Bible has so many different versions.
Muslims may have more cests than you but each and everyone has one single set of Quran down to the one single word.
 
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