Japan’s Largest Warship Since World War II Takes To Sea

[AUSTERLITZ]

He is revered and honored as one of the greatest military leaders. In the same league as Admiral Togo.

What about uesugi kenshin and takeda shingen?The greatest rivalry of the sengoku era.The battles of kawankajima are one of my favourites.

 

[Aepsilons]

Hmmmn - I like that !

So how do you guys view the whole Japanese participation in WW2 ? Do you guys honor the sacrifices made by the Japanese soldiers - their bravery, their courage and their dedication ? Or do you guys just view at it all with indifference ?

Of course. The memories of the military personnel who served in the Imperial Army, Imperial Navy and the Imperial Air Force are revered for their sacrifices for the nation, irrespective of the outcome of the war.

It also depends on the type of Japanese you talk to, some will view the war as our fault and saw Japan as the aggressor, some would say that we were placed in the position because of entangling alliances with the Tripartite Pact, and some will say that Japan was the victim and forced into it.

I personally hold the position that Japan was responsible because during that time Japan was an Empire with very real hegemonic ambitions. In part it was the unchecked ultranationalist teachings in schools, media, racist teachings that preached of Japanese racial superiority over all other Asiatics. Japan was , unfortunately , destined to clash with the greater powers. Despite the destruction, deaths that occurred , I'm glad that the country rebuilt itself from the ashes of the war. Not as an Imperialist power that it once was, but as a liberal democracy , centered on the rule of law.

We still have a long way to go, tho.

 

[Armstrong]

I personally hold the position that Japan was responsible because during that time Japan was an Empire with very real hegemonic ambitions. In part it was the unchecked ultranationalist teachings in schools, media, racist teachings that preached of Japanese racial superiority over all other Asiatics. Japan was , unfortunately , destined to clash with the greater powers. Despite the destruction, deaths that occurred , I'm glad that the country rebuilt itself from the ashes of the war. Not as an Imperialist power that it once was, but as a liberal democracy , centered on the rule of law.

We still have a long way to go, tho.

Take that back otherwise my future-Japanese wife (your sister-in-law) would never forgive you !

As the saying goes - There is your version, there is my version and then there is the truth; maybe Imperial Japan wasn't as bad as its made out to be !

 

[Zarvan]

Japan’s largest warship since World War II has left for its first set of sea trials last week ahead of entering the Japanese Maritime Self Defense Force (JMSDF) fleet next year.

JS Izumo (DDH-183) departed Tokyo Bay on Sept. 23, as seen as in a video on YouTube, for the first round of what will be about six months of sea trials ahead of the ship’s commissioning next year, a JMSDF official told Jane’s Defence Weekly on Monday.

The 24,000-ton helicopter carrier is the first of two planned ships. Izumo will enter the JMSDF force next year. DDH-184 will enter the fleet in 2017, according to the Naval Institute’s Combat Fleet’s of the World.

The development pair of ships have fomented regional controversy since the formal start of the program, in part because of their strong resemblance to aircraft carriers

“It is an aircraft carrier, and Japan just called it a helicopter destroyer to downplay its aggressive nature,” Zhang Junshe with the People’s Liberation Army Naval Military Studies Research Institute told China Daily last year.

To Japan’s neighbors, even the name Izumo is a loaded word.

“The original Izumo, an armored cruiser that participated in the Battle of Tsushima, was purchased with reparations from the first Sino-Japanese War,” wrote USNI News contributor Kyle Mizokami last year.
“There is little doubt all parties, particularly the Chinese, are aware of the lineage.”

Though billed by Japan as primarily an anti-submarine warfare (ASW) and humanitarian and disaster relief (HADR) platform, its character is more in line with the U.S. Navy’s America-class of amphibious warships.



Izumo is large enough to field 14 helicopters and has the capacity to carry 400 troops. Japan could also field V-22 Osprey tilt-rotor aircraft from the ship. Ospreys are used by U.S. Marines to deploy troops from the sea and were successfully test onboard Japan’s Hyuga-class DDHs in 2013.

It’s conceivable the helicopter carrier could also accommodate the short takeoff/ vertical landing (STOVL) variants of the F-35 Lighting II Joint Strike Fighter (JSF) but Japan has said publically it has no intentions of fielding JSFs from the ships.

But — like the aviation centric America — the ship is not equipped with a well deck to deploy troops via landing craft.

Following World War II, the Imperial Japanese Navy was largely sunk and its pacifist constitution only allowed for military force in a direct threat to the country.

However in the last year, Japan’s Prime Minister Shinzo Abe has led a push to expand the scope of Japan’s military cooperation and its ability to develop its military export industry.

From Japan’s Largest Warship Since World War II Takes To Sea - USNI News

@Nihonjin1051 - the future of the JMSDF is looking very bright, unfortunately the pics are covered in the typical smog.

@Nihonjin1051 Can it fire some Missiles ?

 

[Aepsilons]

Take that back otherwise my future-Japanese wife (your sister-in-law) would never forgive you !

As the saying goes - There is your version, there is my version and then there is the truth; maybe Imperial Japan wasn't as bad as its made out to be !

My grandfather served in the Imperial Navy, and all of his younger brothers died in the war. Imagine, my Ojisan was the only one to come home after the end of the war.

Can't emphasize enough how much we suffered. The foolish decision to invade not only China, but to attack the United States and initiate Operation Ten Goh simultaneously. The Military Government at the time did not have a coordinated effort in the war ministry because even then, leaders in the Department of the Imperial Army, and Navy competed with each other and did not coordinate effectively. This was seen in Guadalcanal and other battle events.

The soldiers, sailors and crewmen fought and died with valor and distinction, and followed orders obediently to their deaths. Unfortunately the Imperial Military Command was incompetent on the objective and goal. They were unrealistic in fighting the Russians, Chinese, Americans, Dutch, French, British, Australians at the same time.

Lets get back to the subject matter , shall we? Thanks buddy.

 

[Varunastra]

How far Japan and United States have come. From sworn enemies during World War II, to close allies after the war.

Maybe Iran and United States can do the same.

India -Pakistan ?

 

[trident2010]

Yes, indeed, it is. I long to see the Rising Sun's Colours being unfurled on these beauties. With the enlightened US-Japan Defense Pact, which elevates Japan as a global partner in fighting sources of instability, we will finally see the deployment of Japan's military. Those who are enemies of Japan and threats to our security , and the security of our relevant partners shall be purified by fire.

Glory unto Japan, Glory unto the United States.

Carry on Japan. Enough of self-defense, now give your enemies some chance of self-defense

 

[Pakistani E]

Of course. The memories of the military personnel who served in the Imperial Army, Imperial Navy and the Imperial Air Force are revered for their sacrifices for the nation, irrespective of the outcome of the war.

It also depends on the type of Japanese you talk to, some will view the war as our fault and saw Japan as the aggressor, some would say that we were placed in the position because of entangling alliances with the Tripartite Pact, and some will say that Japan was the victim and forced into it.

I personally hold the position that Japan was responsible because during that time Japan was an Empire with very real hegemonic ambitions. In part it was the unchecked ultranationalist teachings in schools, media, racist teachings that preached of Japanese racial superiority over all other Asiatics. Japan was , unfortunately , destined to clash with the greater powers. Despite the destruction, deaths that occurred , I'm glad that the country rebuilt itself from the ashes of the war. Not as an Imperialist power that it once was, but as a liberal democracy , centered on the rule of law.

We still have a long way to go, tho.

I vote this post as one of the most sensible posts ever posted on PDF. I think us South Asians (Indians, Pakistanis, Sri Lankans, Bengalis) can learn a lot from this statement.

 

[SarthakGanguly]

Of course. The memories of the military personnel who served in the Imperial Army, Imperial Navy and the Imperial Air Force are revered for their sacrifices for the nation, irrespective of the outcome of the war.

This is quite distinct to the way Germans treated their veterans. I appreciate the Japanese for respecting their traditions, even in defeat.

 

[Soryu]

Here some pics:

 

[HeinzG]

As right now, most likely conventional. The only way for these to be nuclear is if we can address nuclear limitation use for the armed forces.

What is the use of these carriers? Would they be a deterrence against Chinese?

My grandfather served in the Imperial Navy, and all of his younger brothers died in the war. Imagine, my Ojisan was the only one to come home after the end of the war.

Can't emphasize enough how much we suffered. The foolish decision to invade not only China, but to attack the United States and initiate Operation Ten Goh simultaneously. The Military Government at the time did not have a coordinated effort in the war ministry because even then, leaders in the Department of the Imperial Army, and Navy competed with each other and did not coordinate effectively. This was seen in Guadalcanal and other battle events.

The soldiers, sailors and crewmen fought and died with valor and distinction, and followed orders obediently to their deaths. Unfortunately the Imperial Military Command was incompetent on the objective and goal. They were unrealistic in fighting the Russians, Chinese, Americans, Dutch, French, British, Australians at the same time.

Lets get back to the subject matter , shall we? Thanks buddy.

I like the story of Kumano... a gallant effort by a gallant warship and crew members who served one way or the other.

 

[Aepsilons]

What is the use of these carriers? Would they be a deterrence against Chinese?



I like the story of Kumano... a gallant effort by a gallant warship and crew members who served one way or the other.

If pictures speak a thousand words, the following picture is the Zuikaku and her crew. Loyal unto death...

 

[Superboy]

Somehow I don't think the US allows Japan to build carriers that can host F-35B. The US wants Japan on a leash.

 

[SvenSvensonov]

Somehow I don't think the US allows Japan to build carriers that can host F-35B. The US wants Japan on a leash.

The US has no say in the matter and the Izumo and Hyuga class can carry the F-35. Once again your understanding of naval affairs and global politics is wrong. Also the US want Japan to take a more active role in its defense so the US can reduce its own role, thus the US wants to let Japan off of its proverbial leash.

 

[Aepsilons]

A comparison of the Hyuga Class vs Izumo Class vs Nimitz Class,