Japan unveils largest warship since World War II

[jhungary]

you really need to laugh hard to some Chinese member here.

Japanese wanted Air Craft Carrier. So what, big deal, even if tomorrow Japan want to drop the pacifist stance, what can China do about it? Talk to Japan??

This is the main point, China can NEVER interfere with Japan's Internal Affair, even if Japan ask US for a Nimitz, it is none of Chinese business, the perceived "They have a carrier and now they will go rampage like WW2" have got to drop. Because, well, there are nothing China can do about it.

Secondly, you also need to laugh at Chinese and their Military technicality.

It is literally impossible for Chinese to operate more than 4 Carrier unless the current situation changed (Ie Having overseas naval bases or have extension of their territories) Only 2 Naval Yard are big enough to accommodate any repair work, dry dock work and berthing facilities. 2 Docks can service 2 carriers at a time and put 2 carriers out at sea. Supporting ship also taking up berthing place and dry docks, and please do remember, China only have 1 coast. They are not like US which have 2 and multiple bases overseas , or Japan, which literally surrounded by seas. Put aside the fact that Japan used to service Fleet carrier during WW2, their basic infrastructure will still be in place. Where China is a new comer to Carrier Warfare.

If there are anyone who should worry about the rise of Japanese NAVY again, it will be the USA, not China, we have bases there, you don't....

 

[gambit]

Why should China waste money trying to outclass the Japanese Navy when China is already armed with thousands of ballistic missles, both surface to surface and anti ship missles? China can bombard Japanese ports and military bass on Japanese soil with ballistic missles without sending a single ship, plane or soldier. China already has a military edge over Japan. Every single inch of Japanese soil is in range of both conventional and nuclear missles from China.

I support Japan wasting money on ships that could just get sunk with a ballistic missle in case of war, its their money not ours.

You might want to ask the Soviets on that philosophy.

Doh...They are gone...Bankrupted because of a misguided belief in missiles alone would be adequate.

 

[cirr]

Now China has every excuse it ever needs to speed up its defence modernization drive。

The likes of the US、India etc should shut the fcuk up next time China hikes its defence budget to build more warships、submarines、nucleared-tip missiles etc。

And the answer will probably come in about a week from now。

 

[Kiss_of_the_Dragon]

you really need to laugh hard to some Chinese member here.

Japanese wanted Air Craft Carrier. So what, big deal, even if tomorrow Japan want to drop the pacifist stance, what can China do about it? Talk to Japan??

This is the main point, China can NEVER interfere with Japan's Internal Affair, even if Japan ask US for a Nimitz, it is none of Chinese business, the perceived "They have a carrier and now they will go rampage like WW2" have got to drop. Because, well, there are nothing China can do about it.

Secondly, you also need to laugh at Chinese and their Military technicality.

It is literally impossible for Chinese to operate more than 4 Carrier unless the current situation changed (Ie Having overseas naval bases or have extension of their territories) Only 2 Naval Yard are big enough to accommodate any repair work, dry dock work and berthing facilities. 2 Docks can service 2 carriers at a time and put 2 carriers out at sea. Supporting ship also taking up berthing place and dry docks, and please do remember, China only have 1 coast. They are not like US which have 2 and multiple bases overseas , or Japan, which literally surrounded by seas. Put aside the fact that Japan used to service Fleet carrier during WW2, their basic infrastructure will still be in place. Where China is a new comer to Carrier Warfare.

If there are anyone who should worry about the rise of Japanese NAVY again, it will be the USA, not China, we have bases there, you don't....

Noone can prevent Japan to do what it wants....the best China can do it's to do best for itself.

You might want to ask the Soviets on that philosophy.

Doh...They are gone...Bankrupted because of a misguided belief in missiles alone would be adequate.

Soviet went banckupt not because of the missiles program but geopolitical mis-calculation and threat assessement, if China and Soviet got alone, this world will still bi-polar: communist and capitalist. As for China, since the opening, we're on steady rise this is due to the fact we have draw lessons from others and calibrate ourself to adapt with new situation. Missile might not cost effective but it's still valuable.

 

[+4vsgorillas-Apebane]

The Japs need these ships for when their islands crumble into the sea from volcanic eruptions and earthquakes. Then their people can live on the large wide flat decks.

 

[visom]

I want to see their few dozen anti ballistic missles try to stop hundreds of missles raining down on locations all over their country.

If Japan really wanted to, they can increase their anti missile. They have the money and technology to do it.

 

[northeast]

It's a good news to japan and china.I hope the arms race between China and Japan will bring the whole Northeast Asia to a new height of civillization.I hope one day the weastern countries will bow down to Northeastern Asian Countries.But again I think the biggest problem is not Japan，it's China.China don't have such ambition because malay people are genally peace loving cowards.

 

[cnleio]

Hyuga class (at 650 ft and 20,000 tons) carries up to 18 helicopters.

WorldWideAircraftCarriers.com - 22DDH Class Page

These were given the project number 22DDH, and will displace in excess of 27,000 tons full load and be 815 feet long. The official name of the lead vessel is the Izumo, DDH-183, and so they will be the Izumo Class. They will hold quite a few more aircraft, their flight deck will be completely clear, with all weapons located on sponsons off deck or on the island, and they will have a larger, side mounted elevator on the aft, starboard side. These changes strongly emplys that these vessels will embark VSTOL aircraft, potentially the F-35B Joint Strike Fighter being built by the United States should the Japanese elect to purchase any

Izumo and Hyuga class CGI

 

[fn57mm]

Nope,just to China.All that sabre rattling makes for angry neighbours,none would shead a tear if the japanese teach you a lesson.You can't expect them to set idly while china builds up.

LOL Asians never forgot the crimes committed by the Japs, if it wasn't for them opening factories in our countries no one would give a rats *** for the Japs. We would like to see the Chinese balance them out. We know very well what the Japs are capable of doing. They are racist to everyone but a Jap. You thought the Chinese were bad, wait until you see a true nationalist right wing Jap.

 

[USAHawk785]

YOKOHAMA, Japan (AP) -- Japan on Tuesday unveiled its biggest warship since World War II, a huge flat-top destroyer that has raised eyebrows in China and elsewhere because it bears a strong resemblance to a conventional aircraft carrier.

The ship, which has a flight deck that is nearly 250 meters (820 feet) long, is designed to carry up to 14 helicopters. Japanese officials say it will be used in national defense — particularly in anti-submarine warfare and border-area surveillance missions — and to bolster the nation's ability to transport personnel and supplies in response to large-scale natural disasters, like the devastating earthquake and tsunami in 2011.

Though the ship — dubbed "Izumo" — has been in the works since 2009, its unveiling comes as Japan and China are locked in a dispute over several small islands located between southern Japan and Taiwan. For months, ships from both countries have been conducting patrols around the isles, called the Senkaku in Japan and the Diaoyutai in China.

The tensions over the islands, along with China's heavy spending on defense and military modernization, have heightened calls in Japan for beefed-up naval and air forces. China recently began operating an aircraft carrier that it refurbished after purchasing from Russia, and is reportedly moving forward with the construction of another that is domestically built.

Japan, China and Taiwan all claim the islands.

Though technically a destroyer, some experts believe the new Japanese ship could potentially be used in the future to launch fighter jets or other aircraft that have the ability to take off vertically. That would be a departure for Japan, which has one of the best equipped and best trained naval forces in the Pacific but which has not sought to build aircraft carriers of its own because of constitutional restrictions that limit its military forces to a defensive role.

Japan says it has no plans to use the ship in that manner.

The Izumo does not have catapults for launching fighters, nor does it have a "ski-jump" ramp on its flight deck for fixed-wing aircraft launches.

Beautiful, indeed.

The Japanese have a proud naval military history.

 

[Viet]

not bad Japan, welcome back in the Pacific

The Japs need these ships for when their islands crumble into the sea from volcanic eruptions and earthquakes. Then their people can live on the large wide flat decks.

you are right. Japan needs more such toys, more funs are coming in the EC Sea.

 

[USAHawk785]

not bad Japan, welcome back in the Pacific


you are right. Japan needs more such toys, more funs are coming in the EC Sea.

The Japanese , truly, have a proud naval history. They obliterated the Russian Baltic Fleet during the Russo-Japanese War, forcing the Romanov Government to sue for peace. During WWII, well during the first 6 months of the war, the Nihon Kaigun (Imperial Japanese Navy) not only struck the US Pacific Fleet, but crushed the Royal Navy's , the Dutch Navy's, and the French Navy's squadrons stationed in their overseas territories in the Pacific.

Not to mention prior to the this, the 1st and 2nd Sino-Japanese Wars, the Japanese Navy defeated Chinese Navy in all occasions.

It was only the United States Navy, through attrition warefare, that was able to overcome the Imperial Navy. However, the Japanese were and are...masters of naval warfare.

 

[Enemy]

cause Japan will have 2 of this along with 2 Hyuga class Helicopter carrier and 2 Haruna class Helicopter carrier(this one is truely a helicopter carrier,unlike Hyuga and Izumo)..Both Hyuga(can carry upto 11 Aircraft,but generally carry around 4-5) and Izumo(officially 9 even when far larger than Hugya,I think they're downplayed it..It can easily carry around 15 Aircrafts) can carry several F-35s I guess..thats an impressive force even in front of PLAN..that makes them nervous..not to mention that If Abe Change the foreign and defence policy of Japan,they will certainly push for fully fledged Aircraft Carriers..but what Japan is doing now is making light aircraft carrier in front of the eye of the whole world,and classifying it as helicopter carrying destroyer..

Japan is still under US occupation. Japan is virtually an American colony.

Do you think US will allow Japan to develop such formidable offensive platform? You will say "yes, because of China"

If that is the case, then US could have built an AC themselves which would have waved the US flag not that of Japan while sailing. US does not need to give its colonized nation such platform.

 

[Kolaps]

Yeah, Japan is great! That is why Taiwan people love them so much.


What about you China?

Do nothing as usual? What a pathetic country!

 

[Viet]

then name the countries that China may go to war with other than vietnam, japan, pinoys and india

South Korea! it builds an alliance with Vietnam, Japan and India to counter Chinese aggression at sea. Ahem...just in this novel

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This blatant act of aggression is the opening gambit in a war that has blindsided the U.S. and quickly embroiled all nations in the western Pacific. These nations, bound together in the newly formed Littoral Alliance, have begun a covert submarine campaign aimed at crippling China’s economy before China can set in motion its own plot to dominate the region.

In a desperate attempt to buy the president enough time to resolve the crisis diplomatically, Mitchell’s submarine squadron is ordered to interfere with attacks by both sides. China and the Littoral Alliance are both determined to win, no matter the cost, and as each side increases the level of violence, they approach a dangerous tipping point. Larry Bond's Shattered Trident is a race against time, as the submarines of Mitchell’s squadron must execute their mission before the world witnesses an economic catastrophe—or worse, a nuclear exchange.