Japan Builds Up Military

[tanlixiang28776]

You are right, so China supports the USA.
In recent years, Japan has been to find ways to dismantle the USA bases.
And several Japan Prime Minister began a few close to the China, For example: Shinzo amps, Yasuo Fukuda, Yukio Hatoyama, Naoto Kan... Because they know that China can help Japan to become a normal country.

They tried to get US bases to leave. What happened is that they were all removed from office.

 

[cross1993]

You are the lone Chinese on this thread that make any sense. Thanks for being Sane! First thing, US protects Japan not rule it. secondly, USA will be a Japanese ally going forward as well there should be no doubt about it. But at present USA has its own set of huge issues back home and they want to focus on other things. Japan is no threat to US at all so they will help the ally to have a strong Army base to fight the threats to US and others. May be who knows in future US can put up a missile defense shield in Japan like they are doing in Polland.

You do not understand the East Asian.
Four players in East Asia, USA, Russia, Japan, China. That is the Indians can not understand level.

 

[casual]

You are right, so China supports the USA.
In recent years, Japan has been to find ways to dismantle the USA bases.
And several Japan Prime Minister began a few close to the China, For example: Shinzo amps, Yasuo Fukuda, Yukio Hatoyama, Naoto Kan... Because they know that China can help Japan to become a normal country.

the trawler incident kinda put an end to all that. at least in the short term.
i'm sure in the long term japan will play both china and u.s. to further it's own interests.

 

[peristalsiso]

china's military budget grows with china's GDP. it is not advised any country in the region to start an arms race with china unless they also have 10% annual GDP growth, otherwise it could wreck your economy.

yes, china can afford to grow their military.

but as i said elsewhere, you can establish regional dominance through economic cooperation just as good as through a military armsrace that you know you'll win by sheer country size and economic growth statistics.

 

[casual]

They tried to get US bases to leave. What happened is that they were all removed from office.

they got moved because the US bases didn't move like they promised

 

[tanlixiang28776]

they got moved because the US bases didn't move like they promised

Same result.

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yes, china can afford to grow their military.

but as i said elsewhere, you can establish regional dominance through economic cooperation just as good as through a military armsrace that you know you'll win by sheer country size and economic growth statistics.

Thats already what happens.

 

[cross1993]

They tried to get US bases to leave. What happened is that they were all removed from office.

Because, if China can not take over the USA pressed Japan, China will not support Japan to become a normal country.
Chinese people believe that, if the USA to leave, China should become the leader of East Asia. If China as France, Japan only as Germany.

 

[cross1993]

China and Japan will eventually become a partner, like the EU. But who is the leader?
China needs to be patient, our strength is not enough. to help normalize Japan? it is too early now.

 

[tanlixiang28776]

China and Japan will eventually become a partner, like the EU. But who is the leader?
China needs to be patient. Our strength is not enough, to help normalize Japan? it is too early now.

Economic already. Military only with US approval.

 

[jbond197]

Chinese people believe that, if the USA to leave, China should become the leader of East Asia. If China as France, Japan only as Germany.

That's what you wish but the world does not run by your whims and wishes... Japan will remain US ally no matter what and US will have direct or indirect influence in East Asia so for China to lead East Asia, they will need to dance to the tunes of US..

 

[cross1993]

Economic already. Military only with US approval.

If China and Japan together, USA can not prevent Japan to become a normal country.
USA is most afraid of Japan. Because WW2 and atomic bomb.

In fact, China and USA both competitors, but also a partner.

 

[casual]

That's what you wish but the world does not run by your whims and wishes... Japan will remain US ally no matter what and US will have direct or indirect influence in East Asia so for China to lead East Asia, they will need to dance to the tunes of US..

sorry but you're an idiot. Japan isn't as weak as you think. Japan will play china and US against each other to further their own agenda.

 

[jbond197]

sorry but you're an idiot. Japan isn't as weak as you think. Japan will play china and US against each other to further their own agenda.

Post reported for personal attack and abusive post.

 

[jbond197]

Japan isn't as weak as you think. Japan will play china and US against each other to further their own agenda.

BTW, who said Japan is weak.. Don't get too imaginative will you? I guess by being US ally they will achieve their goal What's new you are telling me here?

 

[cross1993]

That's what you wish but the world does not run by your whims and wishes... Japan will remain US ally no matter what and US will have direct or indirect influence in East Asia so for China to lead East Asia, they will need to dance to the tunes of US..

I said you do not understand that.
Global economic integration, China and the USA are each other's most important country, they all need each other. Politics is for the economic services, economic relations more trustworthy than the political relations.

China and USA both competitors, but also a partner. In fact, their greatest ally is each other.