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It’s time India took steps to contain China

For India to become a super power and beat China at their game, we must make Lalu Prasad Yadav the defence minister, Mulayam as home minister, Raja as Finance minister and Mayawati as the PM. :)

You must be from UP.
 
No one give enough dues to the USN. USN is in control of SCS and Indian Ocean. This is the fact that everyone agrees.

yup,but they're about to retire from IOR,and they're preparing to pivot in SCS region..so....that makes Indian Navy the most powerful navy operating this region.

You must be from UP.

nope,he is from WB i think..
 
yup,but they're about to retire from IOR,and they're preparing to pivot in SCS region..so....that makes Indian Navy the most powerful navy operating this region.

Actually, the 5th fleet in Persian gulf can easily sail into Indian Ocean. A US fleet is mightier than any navy out there.
 
Limit power projection in the region.

That's not really contain, because you are not really slowing down the advancing of military and economic power.

All you are doing is keeping a lid on a champagne bottle that is being shaken, and at some point the lid will shoot out of the bottle, as surely as a contained nation, if no action is taken to actually decrease its capabilities or at least keeping it stable.
 
Actually, the 5th fleet in Persian gulf can easily sail into Indian Ocean. A US fleet is mightier than any navy out there.

Fifth Fleet isn't responsible for IOR..so,don't mix it up.
 
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so,as the title suggests..... "It’s time India took steps to contain China"
Oh, you think China current influence comes from what Mao did in 1962?

Well, if India feels what she is gonna gain is better than what she gonna lose, it is India sovereign right to chose. I just wonder what the Japanese is expecting and what the Indian is expecting.
 
Today, India has to contend with China in its backyard – Nepal, Sri Lanka, Burma, Bangladesh and Pakistan.

At least the author is honest enough to admit that India wants hegemony. Note the Freudian slip of using the word "backyard" instead of "neighborhood".
 
Oh, you think China current influence comes from what Mao did in 1962?

Well, if India feels what she is gonna gain is better than what she gonna lose, it is India sovereign right to chose. I just wonder what the Japanese is expecting and what the Indian is expecting.

well,every country understands one thing..you better be strong or else larger country will bully you.its a ray of hope that China shed so called Peaceful Rise's mask quite soon.so there is still some time left when we could prepare themselves to strengthen ourselves as well as our relationships with outher countries.and why should China bother??Indo-Japan relationship isn't aimed at China,its for mutual benefit.and even if it is aimed against China,they should've expect it as they can't expect to tickle us on issues like kashmir and we don't do anything at all..its just mutual response.

At least the author is honest enough to admit that India wants hegemony. Note the Freudian slip of using the word "backyard" instead of "neighborhood".

just like Pakistanis refer Afghanistan???
 
India has talked about contain China for the past 50 years. I see they are still living in that dream. :coffee:
 
a third world slum

a vibrant economy engine``

does he need to go into more details````

you know he is worried about reality humiliates your Indian delusion


Don't try to bite the fingers which fed you.

All these years Japanese firms are the main driving force behind Chinese economy, Now they what to reduce the Chinese reliance, India is a major destination for these firms.

May be it will take more time than Chinese but we will be there.


Chinese have 200 millions under poverty line , Foolish comment of you worth no reply.
 
Don't try to bite the fingers which fed you.

All these years Japanese firms are the main driving force behind Chinese economy, Now they what to reduce the Chinese reliance, India is a major destination for these firms.

May be it will take more time than Chinese but we will be there.


Chinese have 200 millions under poverty line , Foolish comment of you worth no reply.

I suggest you do a bit more reading there. Japan has never been the main driving force behind chinese growth.Not even close.
 
well,every country understands one thing..you better be strong or else larger country will bully you.its a ray of hope that China shed so called Peaceful Rise's mask quite soon.so there is still some time left when we could prepare themselves to strengthen ourselves as well as our relationships with outher countries.and why should China bother??Indo-Japan relationship isn't aimed at China,its for mutual benefit.and even if it is aimed against China,they should've expect it as they can't expect to tickle us on issues like kashmir and we don't do anything at all..its just mutual response.



just like Pakistanis refer Afghanistan???
You said "Indo-Japan relationship isn't aimed at China". I think the recent GlobalTimes article is precisely just to remind India that Mr. Abe might not see it that way. And by past history, the terms of office of Japanese prime minister is not that great. Don't go rush into anything that you might regret later.
 
You said "Indo-Japan relationship isn't aimed at China". I think the recent GlobalTimes article is precisely just to remind India that Mr. Abe might not see it that way. And by past history, the terms of office of Japanese prime minister is not that great. Don't go rush into anything that you might regret later.

oh please...Global Times is a CCP's Propaganda Machine directly under their control..they gloat on anything CCP wants..I don't think its a reliable source.
 
India has not learnt any lessons from the 1962 war with China.
Most wars are won or lost for military reasons. But few leave a strategic and political legacy as divisive and debated as the Indo-Chinese war of 1962.
Fifty years after the ill-fated conflict, there is still debate on whether it was really a “war” or a “border conflict”. Then, Marxists, in private conversations at least, are still unwilling to admit that China was the aggressor. To them, India remains the villain of the piece. There is also a school of thought that maintains that the humiliation of 1962 could have been turned into glory if only India had used its (then) superior air force.
But all these arguments, debates and discussions are in the realm of semantics.
The fact is that the conflict has left a scar on the collective consciousness of the nation that half a century has not been able to erase.
What was the strategic outcome of the war?
• Globally, chairman Mao decisively scuttled Jawaharlal Nehru’s ambitions of emerging as the voice of the Third World;
• In this continent, China told the (still under-developed) south east Asian countries that India didn’t have the wherewithal to become their leader on the world stage; and
• Within China, it cemented Mao’s political position, under serious threat following a disastrous socialist experiment called “Great Leap Forward” that resulted in the deaths of millions of Chinese people, as the Supreme Leader.
Fifty years later, India is still paying the price of that defeat.
The situation, though, is vastly different now.
China is on the verge of emerging as a “great power”.
India, on the other hand, is in danger of being ousted from the club of “emerging economies”, collectively called BRIC, that was supposed to succeed Europe, the US and Japan as the nations of the future.
Today, we still don’t have a strategic doctrine to emerge as a great power.
We’re still unsure about how to deal with China (and Pakistan).
And we’re completely undecided on how to engage powers like the US and Japan that can help us checkmate the dragon at our doorstep.
It has become fashionable in some circles within India’s power elite to ridicule India’s great power aspirations vis-à-vis China. They point to the growing disparities in a variety of economic, social and military indicators to propagate the theory that this is a lost race; the sooner India accepts the fact the better.
“China doesn’t care about India,” they say.
“China doesn’t remember the 1962 war,” they add.
“India is not even a part of China’s collective consciousness.”
Rubbish!
China is following Sun Tzu’s prescription that positioning and deception are all-important in any conflict. Today, India has to contend with China in its backyard – Nepal, Sri Lanka, Burma, Bangladesh and Pakistan.
Of these, Nepal and Sri Lanka lie within India’s strategic sphere. Yet, we see China looming large in these countries. It’s part of its so-called “string of pearls” strategy to hem India in and keep it rooted to its region.
Every (feeble and politically tentative) Indian effort to break out of its South Asian straitjacket is beaten back with threats, ridicule and rhetoric.
Result: we don’t have a presence in China’s backyard.
There’s no dearth of people telling us that this is just as well.
“China’s gone too far ahead,” we’re told. Trying to compete, these voices add, is fraught with danger.
Left unsaid is the threat – and a fear – of a 1962 redux.
Medieval Europe offers a good template to compare our current situation with. At different times, Spain, Portugal, Prussia, France and England threatened to emerge as the pre-eminent power in Europe.
Each time, other countries ganged up against the pre-eminent power of the day to prevent a pan-European hegemony.
That is what India must do now to prevent Beijing from emerging as the effective “capital” of Asia. Japan Inc., which played a massive role in China’s industrial revolution, is now looking for other safe investment destinations following the spat between China and Japan over Spratly Islands.
New Delhi should immediately form a high power group to woo Japanese investors to make India their home. A beginning has been made with the rail freight corridor project that can, potentially, channel billions of dollars of Japanese investments India’s way. Decisive follow-up action is necessary.
Then, Asia’s “arc of democracy”, from Japan to India, should logically be India’s sphere of influence. But the Indian government’s pusillanimity and indecisiveness have made countries in this arc wary of cozying up to New Delhi.
And finally, of course, there’s the US factor. India and the US have no strategic, territorial or military disputes. Both countries share common values and goals – like liberal democratic values. Yet, there’s hesitation in New Delhi on taking ties to their logical conclusion.
It’s time India decided, like China seems to have, to expand its areas of influence.
But is the government up to it?
On the 50th anniversary of India’s most traumatic military defeat and international humiliation, it is worth pondering over these issues.

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The IQ and delusion of this Hindustan blog are both intriguing…

It is because it kidda of symbolises the deep-rooted group psychology and the corresponding general behaviours of Indians at large, being senior analysts of national think tanks, top politicians, economists, DRDOers, or anonymous Indian gurus of internet and PDF.

As HongWu correctly identified that “The last time India boasted about "it's not 1962 anymore" all China had to do was send in a dozen PLA deep into India territory and the whole GOI went into panic and surrendered Chumar”, it actually had countless historical procedances as well. And you wonder how the Brits, in their mere thousands, could successfully colonise the entire place for 300 odd years…

…well, until the Brits could not resist the Aggressive Begging postures of Gandhi anymore :lol:


Indians’ Gandhi style Aggressive Begging has been legendary, as most Indian posters and senior analyst of this blog have demonstrated. It involves the following 3 painful steps of manoeuvres under normal circumstances (it jumps to name calling straightaway whenever under severe stress, though, as we’ll soon see):



Step 1. Self-inflict injuries of some sorts, usually and mainly in a physical manner such as a fair round of self- slamming to the extent of swelling purple face, followed by self-pity, in order to call others into attention.



Step 2, When civilised people approach with great sympathy ( as Britain did, as China’s Li did…) asking for the reason why and providing console, Indians will suddenly resort to pathological chest-thumping* behaviours. (*Actually it’s more like bare rib-thumping as chest muscles could be barely seen due to centuries of mal-nutrition)



Step 3, When civilised people are in a state of shock and disbelief of this inhuman self-treatment, Indians will declare “non-cooperation” and morale/physical victory somehow all of a sudden, however delusional they might appear, by uttering a stream of completely incongruent wordings, logic and concepts such as “Look East”, “we’ll have White servants”, “we decide to contain you” and “We are the supa powa, by…”, etc., in a desperate hope that others will give up out of humanitarian ground.



In conclusion:

Indian Aggressive Begging (self-inflict injuries, self-pity to attract eyeballs + inhuman bare rib-thumping + claiming supa pawa, as identified above) was arguablely invented by delusionally hungry Indian street beggars eons ago.

It was re-invented and beautified to create the “Brand Gandhi” – the Father of modern Indian, and adopted by Indian intellectual upperclass (read: average IQ about high 80’s) with their “Incredible and shining India supa pawa”, and Indian internet keyboard heros ever since.
 

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