It belongs to China

[Raphael]

^No subtlety either. The only way his facade could be any more unconvincing is if he said Pakistan should hand over Kashmir to India.

 

[Audio]

I also find it quite dishonest to talk negatively about other forumers in a thread where that person has not posted.

He asked, i answered.

Also, I find it hard to believe that an educated European would think all native Europeans think the same and at the same time accusing me of being blind obedient and comformistic. Who is here the conformist and obey blindly? Me, who does not act like all native Europeans or the one who claims that native Europeans act all the same?

You think too much only in one direction. Below are some of your gems quoted....(bottom 2)

Talk about objectivity, you yourself is far from that

Which school taught you objectivity of statements like:

We are greatful that they love our products. The more the merrier. India is just too poor to buy German quality in any significant amount, no to speak of high-tech toys. So, don't be jealous.

In fact, they are so poor that that even the stuffs they import from China are of grad D quality, while the grade A quality products are either consummed internally or exported to Europe where people...

And this is s stick up for objectivity and not because I am supposed to be Indian. It's just that in the India-China example bias of some members is so easily exposed it makes for an easy target.

But anyway, it's hard to take your boasts about "owning" others seriously when you're not even willing to post under the Indian tricolor. Go change your flag, refute the points made in the OP's article, and maybe you won't be considered that annoying kid who talks big but is so ashamed of his origin as to hide it.

lol, here you go again with the flag. And i thought we were making some progress. Silly me.

 

[Götterdämmerung]

He asked, i answered.

Did he mention my name? No?

You think too much only in one direction. Below are some of your gems quoted....(bottom 2)

Which school taught you objectivity of statements like:

We are greatful that they love our products. The more the merrier. India is just too poor to buy German quality in any significant amount, no to speak of high-tech toys. So, don't be jealous.

In fact, they are so poor that that even the stuffs they import from China are of grad D quality, while the grade A quality products are either consummed internally or exported to Europe where people...

It's a fact that China buys more German products than India by a large margin. BMW, Mercedes, Audi sell more cars in China than anywhere outside of our domestic market. In fact, VW sells more cars in China than even in Germany.

It's also a fact that China exports all kinds of products from grade A to Z. It all depends on the money you are willing and able to pay. If you pay peanuts, you get monkeys.

And this is s stick up for objectivity and not because I am supposed to be Indian. It's just that in the India-China example bias of some members is so easily exposed it makes for an easy target.

Everybody has his or her bias, including me. I favour some countries and dislike some others. You are no different.

 

[Audio]

Everybody has his or her bias, including me. I favour some countries and dislike some others. You are no different.

Except my bias doesn't go as far as yours.
I know all the facts above about Germany exporting more to China. But you pin all of China's success on some sort of superiority of the Chineses people.
I on the other hand just think they were "luckier" to be picked by multinational corporations as the venue of the neverending drive for lowering costs/mass production.

Did he mention my name? No?

He asked who, I answered. What is unclear?

 

[gpit]

Taiwanese occupied it illegally with force 1956. We will take back in right time.

Vietnam was once legally occupied by China. No?



Vietnam was once legally occupied by China. No?

Of course, historical reasons must satisfy three conditions: peacefully occupation, continuously, and in reality

You cannot sit and draw an imaginary U line, then you say it is your property history.

Because the Filipinos were there first (Palawan). It is their country.
Vietnam is always smaller, weaker than China. If Chinese were to the Spratly and Paracel islands before, we certainly did not have any chance to occupy the islands.

Vietnam was part of China for centuries. Did you peacefully expel China? Is your occupation of Vietnam continuous? Please don’t forget you became a province of Ming Dynasty of China. In reality you were a part of China historically, Right?

If you lack the history, here is the brief that Vietnam was originally built by a Chinese called Zhao Tuo:

In the 2nd century BCE, what later became Annam was part of the kingdom of Nan Yue or Triệu Dynasty, an ancient kingdom formed upon the union of Baiyue people at the final collapse of the Qin Dynasty by former Qin General Zhao Tuo and was nominally subject to the Chinese Han Empire. In 111 BCE, the Han imperial government, under Emperor Wu of Han, invaded Nanyue and asserted direct control for the first time. By 108 BCE, the conquest was completed and the Chinese took over the lands. The first name given the land based around Hanoi and the Red River was Jiaozhi. In 679, Tang Dynasty established Protectorate General to Pacify the South (Chinese: 安南都护&#24220 as their military government in Jiaozhi. The Sino-Vietnamese name of this government is An Nam đô hộ phủ which can be called for short An Nam (Pacified South) or Annam as in Western documents.

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Annam_(Chinese_province)

 

[Götterdämmerung]

Except my bias doesn't go as far as yours.

Who are you to judge what is being far and what's not?

I know all the facts above about Germany exporting more to China. But you pin all of China's success on some sort of superiority of the Chineses people.

I never mentionned anything about being superior. Chinese are in fact down to earth and work hard for their success. It's rather the India with their delusional supriority complex that irrates not only me but a lot of people I know in Germany without much to show.

I on the other hand just think they were "luckier" to be picked by multinational corporations as the venue of the neverending drive for lowering costs/mass production.

In this competitive world, people are not given a job just out of sheer luck but because of competence. India and many other countries have lower wages than China. If your claim is true those mass productions should have been given to India and not China.

He asked who, I answered. What is unclear?

You don't have to be explicit, it's considered as a bad manner in Europe.

 

[gpit]

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What does it mean tribute system ? In the past Chinese lost their independence. China ruled by Mongolian and Manchus. Servants dont have right to talk about that.
Vietnam and Philippine will solve this matter related to overlap area, base on UNCLOS. We have been do it with Malaysia and we submitted to UN common requests 2009.

Vietnam ruled by China. Servants such as Vietnam don't have the right to talk the islands.

 

[gpit]

history revisionism is a dangerous and immoral thing, only bring more troubles and hatred between nations, and a huge threat to world peace.

This is why so important for neo-fascists to re-write their history.

What we can perceive in Vietnam is that they wiped off their original history by making them illiterate, and those foolish Vietnamese come with pictures originated from nowhere with Chinese characters that they never understand and then whining around.

How foolish, laughable and, at the same time, dangerous is that!

More idiotic farces: the illiterate and imbecilic dunces behave as if they were on right side.

 

[Audio]

Who are you to judge what is being far and what's not?

I can judge according to my own experience and observations. And i nowhere I exert as much affection for the Indian people as you do for the Chinese people. Granted you are free to do that in public, just dont mind when someone in that public sees it. Freedoms and all, you know.....

I never mentionned anything about being superior. Chinese are in fact down to earth and work hard for their success. It's rather the India with their delusional supriority complex that irrates not only me but a lot of people I know in Germany without much to show

This could be just my bias and ignorance, but on this forum i noticed the superiority complex in far greater quantities in Chinese. That's why i troll (argue with facts against blind bias) so much. If it were Indians id be trolling there. I probably need to take a look at the Indian subforum a bit...

In this competitive world, people are not given a job just out of sheer luck but because of competence. India and many other countries have lower wages than China. If your claim is true those mass productions should have been given to India and not China.

They were chosen because of a specific type of society and repressive government. It is true like you say, wages are lower but nowhere else is that critical mass of number of people, conformism and government control like in China.
They can actually muster workers to go do another shift after the usual shift without any fears of labour unions, rights activists, no press coverage about working conditions etc...i think you can imagine at what im getting at. + the working hard part. It's the dream combo for a zealous capitalist.

You don't have to be explicit, it's considered as a bad manner in Europe.

Yes, yes, i know, talking behind someone's back. I apologize, i probably have gone too far with naming.

 

[JayAtl]

This is why so important for neo-fascists to re-write their history.

What we can perceive in Vietnam is that they wiped off their original history by making them illiterate, and those foolish Vietnamese come with pictures originated from nowhere with Chinese characters that they never understand and then whining around.

How foolish, laughable and, at the same time, dangerous is that!

More idiotic farces: the illiterate and imbecilic dunces behave as if they were on right side.

whose a bigger idiot the Vietnamese or you that ran off from china cup in hand and on all fours to a country that actively makes you pay taxes that go towards encircling and threating china ? amuses me to see you Chinese seditious immigrant in the US - insult other nations in an effort to protect a country your folks ran away from ...

 

[gpit]

China says Tibet,Taiwan,Arunachal Pradesh(an Indian state),South China sea belongs to them...now they are after Phillipines and Vietnam...I am sure One day China will say the whole universe belongs to them....really these brainless 4-feet scumbags don't seem to get it

It's harsh to you but Taiwan (RO China) claims more than China (PR China), so swallow it.

In fact S Koreans do claim universe is theirs. What are you going to do?

"4-feet scumbags"? Who's more like it? Please don't insult your fellow Indians:

Human height - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Note: Data in green are representative of a large section of the country's adult population.[citation needed]

Country/Region Average male height Average female height Sample population /age range Methodology Year Source


China (PRC) 1.663 m (5 ft 5 1⁄2 in) 1.570 m (5 ft 2 in) Rural, 17 Measured 2002 [14]
China (PRC) 1.702 m (5 ft 7 in) 1.586 m (5 ft 2 1⁄2 in) Urban, 17 Measured 2002 [14]

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India 1.645 m (5 ft 5 in) 1.520 m (5 ft 0 in) 20 Measured 2005–2006 [30][31]
India 1.612 m (5 ft 3 1⁄2 in) 1.521 m (5 ft 0 in) Rural, 17+ Measured 2007 [32]

BTW, just wondering why every topic the Indians in PDF pick up to go against China goes back against India instead, including this "4-feet scumbags" stuff.

Advice: before you open your big size mouth, make yourself literate and think how to defend your self first.

 

[Audio]

If that little thing has logic then pig can fly.... You know every great show will accompanied by clowns like that Audio thing (probably a useless social welfare bummer $ucking up all the state funds)

You are the clown buddy.

It is you who can't debate with facts and sticks only to blind nationalism/patriotism. You know...facts, like the UNCLOS agreement that China signed. And similar....

 

[ChinaToday]

China says Tibet,Taiwan,Arunachal Pradesh(an Indian state),South China sea belongs to them...now they are after Phillipines and Vietnam...I am sure One day China will say the whole universe belongs to them....really these brainless 4-feet scumbags don't seem to get it

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[gpit]

whose a bigger idiot the Vietnamese or you that ran off from china cup in hand and on all fours to a country that actively makes you pay taxes that go towards encircling and threating china ? amuses me to see you Chinese seditious immigrant in the US - insult other nations in an effort to protect a country your folks ran away from ...

Amusing indeed yourself why you escape Indian democracy and pay US tax?

Encircle? Forget String of Perls?

India is pretty irrelavant in Sino-US relationship. India is an outsider. This is US Secretary of State
Hillary Rodham Clinton said to US citizens (Note: not to the Chinese)

Forrestal Lecture at the Naval Academy | Scoop News


Just look at the ever expanding trade between our economies, the connections between our peoples, the ongoing consultations between our governments. In less than 35 years, we’ve gone from being two nations with hardly any ties to speak of to being thoroughly, inescapably interdependent. That requires adjustments in thinking and approaches on both sides. Geopolitics today cannot afford to be a zero-sum game. A thriving China is good for America and a thriving America is good for China, so long as we both thrive in a way that contributes to the regional and global good. Let me go one step further. We will only succeed in building a peaceful, prosperous Asia Pacific if we succeed in building an effective U.S.-China relationship.

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The hard fact is thriving or suffering India has nothing to do with US and Indo-US relationship is irrelavant to Asia Pacific success and prosperity.


Swallow it, buddy, I'm sorry...

BTW, if needed of course US will use India as a tool, a kind of utility, to encircle China. It's a no-brainer.

 

[Bobby]

By 2020 China will put a claim on entire ASIA and By 2050 they will claim entire world and by 2060 there will be no China ....