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Scientific achievement belong to all of mankind and should be celebrated by all. I personally see no concept of nationalistic slogans like Persian, Arabic, Indian, western, Pakistani scientists but see it as one thing that benefits and belongs to all of mankind. Knowledge grows as it spreads. It reaches new levels and new heights. It sees no borders.
So I personally support scientific achievements bcz I see them at a level above the things that divide man.
Indeed it will end us if we do not get out of this cycle. Its the same routine every year and frankly even the news reports are the same. Politicians will always use any means to get power. They couldn't care less.
Maintaining status quo and believe me it will take one politician to suddenly stand up and blame their own incompetence to the other country and get elected and the cycle starts again. I have personally seen that working on development is like studying. You get distracted very easily in other matters especially shooting video games . One needs to keep the focus on development ignoring distractions and that requires focus of another Level. Status quo will be a huge distraction.
Agreed but political differences will always be a hindrance to it. Achieving one without solving the other is very hard especially considering the case of both nations.
Indeed.
I personally see Asia, Asia minor and middle east filled with nations ( tes nearly all the nations) that can best any western nation due to the abundance of resources and manpower only if we focus on science, knowledge and development of our society and not be engrossed in petty rivalries but help each other achieve better standing.
Modi has made you completely go insane and it can be seen with your post.
But what did Modi do here?
The ISRO have launched 180 foreign satellites since 1999. The US is by far their biggest customer with 114 satellites launched
Number of satellites launched on behalf of foreign countries:-
114 US
11 Canada
10 Germany
8 Singapore
6 UK
4 Algeria
3 Indonesia, Japan and Switzerland
2 Israel, Netherlands, Denmark, France and Austria
1 Republic of Korea, Belgium, Argentina, Italy, Turkey, Luxembourg, UAE and Kazakhstan
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yup credit goes to @tsunami from our forum, for posting it first.
You fail to see the point of my post. And answered like a primary school kid (no offense).
How do *you* get benefitted if Bajaj makes motorcycles? Or there is a PSLV/GSLV launch?
Do *you* get money from the govt., a promotion, get to live in a better house, have better govt. facilities? Bajaj gets rich (or the Govt. fat cats get richer with bribes from Govt. contracts), but why are *you* (average Indian schmuck) jumping up and down and cheering??
The answer would be *no*.
How does making motorcycles/buses/cars/trucks in India or shooting off rockets in useless space endeavors help the average citizen (or Sanghi) *personally*?
The answer is still a big, fat *NO*. I think I've made my point. Enough OT talk.
Bilal, I sympathised with some of what you wrote in the post I quoted (about being able to critique one's own country) but this line of reasoning is silly.
Your original point was about how I benefited from having a banya like Bajaj manufacture motorcyles. Perhaps you wanted to drive home a point about how we benefit from a PSLV launch but choosing a motorcycle (and now cars and buses) as an analogy is quite poor.
While there is something to be said for arguing that benefits from a launch vehicle are not immediately tangible and the odds are high that average citizens will not gain anything from the PSLV, motorcyles and cars are very different products. As per the 2011 census 20% of Indian households had some form of motorised transport - mostly two wheelers - like the ones that Bajaj manufactures. Without people like Bajaj making these products these 20% would have a transportation problem and that in turn would make their lives less productive and in many cases reduce social mobility (like a rural kid who would not be able to bike it to an urban college). As a teenager growing up in India in the 90s I often got a ride to my school on our neighbour's bajaj scooter. On Sundays my dad would drive us all out somewhere on his Bullet (a motorbike). In college my roomate had a second hand Hero Honda bike and we used it frequently to get to movies, take girls out and buy booze from a shop that was quite far away.
To answer your question: Am I "benefitted if Bajaj makes motorcycles" ? The answer is a big fat Yes. Without Bajaj I'd have to take some public bus, suffer a crowd, loose time, get turned off from going distances and have a poorer quality of life. If Tata did not make buses, there'd be no public buses either and I'd probably have to walk. Is Bajaj making a ton of money - sure he is. Would I rather he and I stay equally poor? Nope. I don't mind him making money if I get the opportunity to buy something useful - as opposed to not having that opportunity. Furthermore, being a banya, Bajaj will use some of the profits he makes to set up some new factory - for locally made sewing machines perhaps or tractors - and then some other family will be able to improve their quality of life. If the government makes money some of that will be used to build a flyover or a metro or something else. Will corruption eat some of that - sure it will - but a reality with no bajaj would also be one where no such money (for the govt.) was available - versus the current reality where at least some money is generated.
I sometimes read about Pakistan where the automobile sector has not taken off and think - there are so many middle class Pakistanis who are stuck with having to buy the Suzuki Mehran for want of other options - that too at a ridiculous price for an obsolete platform. Would not their lives be better if some Pakistani Bajaj made an affordable modern car at prices comparable to what latest cars are sold here in India? Of course it would. If someone like you was in charge Suzuki Pakistan would be wound up - and nobody would be able to buy a car anymore.
By your logic - nobody should be manufacturing anything or providing any service - and we'd all be living in the stone age.
Too much effeort to convience an idiot. How can you write so long post to convince him?
ha ha.. this is funny because isro is sh*tting and fishing at the same time... and has more fish
yup, my apologies everyone, @Mr.Nair @boxer_B .Should have checked before posting, was really excited yesterday and posted everything in haste.Except that here, Mr.Nair had posted it the page before you did ...
https://defence.pk/threads/isro-lau...llites-into-space.478008/page-21#post-9209340
and since Bloo re-posted it on the page before this one so that
maybe we just all post too fast without searching first.
Just sayin' , Tay.
Damn, The butthurt is real!!! Read...Jobs, Money, Indigenisation, Safer and cheaper mode of transport for the average man and so on.