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Israeli super radars set to give desi LCA fighter jet enhanced combat capability

Navy rejected MK1, MK1 is meant for Airforce.

MK2 is meant for Navy.

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Meanwhile when is super duper Chinese Airforce is going to order Jovial Fighter 17

Do Chinese need light combat aircraft?. Seriously this is the best you can do it while your own project rejected by your own forces. Have some shame

Do you seriously believe Pakistan has enough infrastructure and manufacturing capabilities to pull this off without Chinese assistance???
In today's world even US is now depended to others let alone Pakistan. Indian 5th gen program with Russian stop due to Indian non ability to meet the task and if Russia stick then it will delay task at least 10 year because Indian don't infra as well as work force for that.
 
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Do you seriously believe Pakistan has enough infrastructure and manufacturing capabilities to pull this off without Chinese assistance???
Bro even the ACM said China will assist and the operative is assist. Additionally, Pakistan hasn't been sleeping. These years that they have been working on the jf17 the mirage refurb the f6 and f7P rebuilds all foundation for good engineers and scientists. Pakistan isn't India. Note we know nothing about project AZM other thatthere will e.g. an aircraft a MALE drone and space research. Had we been Indians it would have been invented with shilpa shetty already on her knees blowing you
 
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Bro even the ACM said China will assist and the operative is assist. Additionally, Pakistan hasn't been sleeping. These years that they have been working on the jf17 the mirage refurb the f6 and f7P rebuilds all foundation for good engineers and scientists. Pakistan isn't India. Note we know nothing about project AZM other thatthere will e.g. an aircraft a MALE drone and space research. Had we been Indians it would have been invented with shilpa shetty already on her knees blowing you


Garbage

You are license assembly the thunder and carry out service .of obsolete mirage fighters.

You have no wind tunnel or labs or funds to develop .a serious modern helicopter let alone fighter .

Azm is nothing more than a project to obtain assembly rights to J31, in the next decade or two .

It will happen if China makes it happen
 
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Garbage

You are license assembly the thunder and carry out service .of obsolete mirage fighters.

You have no wind tunnel or labs or funds to develop .a serious modern helicopter let alone fighter .

Azm is nothing more than a project to obtain assembly rights to J31, in the next decade or two .

It will happen if China makes it happen

Yes yes we have nothing. India has everything. Including toilets.
One minute everything China dies is rubbish next minute it will happen of China makes happen. Make up your mind Indian. Or do you just get butt hurt. We have no wind tunnels...lol ok. We have no air university either. We have no maintenance of aircraft we have not even a spanner. Happy. Now please sit down and enjoy a nice cup f cow pee

You answered your own question. LCA was never meant to be a carrier based fighter jet. It was the DRDO which came up with a naval version and offered it to the navy who rejected it because it was too underpowered to be operated from a aircraft carrier.
Is it why the f did the navy test it then....are you that dumb. Navy had a separate program and the naval aircraft even is different but I have to 're you that. Still the navy doesn't want it. You will just type and waste bandwidth.
 
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Garbage

You are license assembly the thunder and carry out service .of obsolete mirage fighters.

You have no wind tunnel or labs or funds to develop .a serious modern helicopter let alone fighter .

Azm is nothing more than a project to obtain assembly rights to J31, in the next decade or two .

It will happen if China makes it happen

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/wind-tunnel-facilities-in-pakistan.245836/

Just like you cannot believe aryan invasion, you will not believe this.

Fact:
be it engines, be is avionics or even the assembly lines of the Tejas
India has had to admit defeat and now foreign companies are doing it for you.
Fact:
The whole make in india fart dream of Modi's government, has fell flat on its blubbery ***.
 
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Garbage
You are license assembly the thunder and carry out service .of obsolete mirage fighters.
You have no wind tunnel or labs or funds to develop .a serious modern helicopter let alone fighter .
Azm is nothing more than a project to obtain assembly rights to J31, in the next decade or two .
It will happen if China makes it happen
I'll be devils advocate here bro, you don't need all these things in house, they can pay the money to other countries to test their proof of concepts. We did pay money to Germans and Russians to test Kaveri engines as we did not have those facilities in house.
 
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Forget about Teja. India should start thinking about Chotha,Panchwan,Chata and so on........
 
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https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/wind-tunnel-facilities-in-pakistan.245836/
Fact:
be it engines, be is avionics or even the assembly lines of the Tejas
India has had to admit defeat and now foreign companies are doing it for you.
Fact:
Let's assume, like you said, engines, avionics and even assembly lines - we accepts defeat (Whatever that means) but can you tell if Pakistan found success in these items or fields? or even tried? or have the capability to ..try? Give me one component on the JF-17 that was designed, developed and manufactured from scratch on the Jf-17 by Pakistan, before you claim Victory!
 
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https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/wind-tunnel-facilities-in-pakistan.245836/

Just like you cannot believe aryan invasion, you will not believe this.

Fact:
be it engines, be is avionics or even the assembly lines of the Tejas
India has had to admit defeat and now foreign companies are doing it for you.
Fact:
The whole make in india fart dream of Modi's government, has fell flat on its blubbery ***.

80% of Tejas' avionics are indigenous.
Also the production lines are in India and not done by some foreign company.
As for engine, true we are yet to perfect it, but you also have to remember that we are not just making any simple turbofan. Kaveri is a low bpr, flat rated, variable cycle engine, that's like jumping 4 steps, of course it'll take time, but let us remember that you lot don't have even contribute a fraction to your project.
 
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Let's assume, like you said, engines, avionics and even assembly lines - we accepts defeat (Whatever that means) but can you tell if Pakistan found success in these items or fields? or even tried? or have the capability to ..try? Give me one component on the JF-17 that was designed, developed and manufactured from scratch on the Jf-17 by Pakistan, before you claim Victory!

We don't tout the JF as 100% indigenous product.
Everyone knows that the JF it self, was a spinoff from another project in past.
Everyone knows that the engines are russian, avionics are chineese, etc.

Fact of the matter is that unlike india, pakistan was an is a highly sanctioned country.
Getting accepted in any reputable university in US / Europe for fluid dynamics and God forbid Nuclear engineering etc is difficult if not impossible.
India on the other hand, has almost the easiest access and an overwhelming large base of engineers.

Fact, is that china is the world's most effective and efficient production base in the world.
 
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We don't tout the JF as 100% indigenous product.
Everyone knows that the JF it self, was a spinoff from another project in past.

Everyone knows that the engines are russian, avionics are chineese, etc.

Fact of the matter is that unlike india, pakistan was an is a highly sanctioned country.
Getting accepted in any reputable university in US / Europe for fluid dynamics and God forbid Nuclear engineering etc is difficult if not impossible.
India on the other hand, has almost the easiest access and an overwhelming large base of engineers.

Fact, is that china is the world's most effective and efficient production base in the world.

Similarly, it is well known that Tejas uses critical parts from other countries. Our MOD often publishes the amount of non indigenous systems usage. However, having said that, the usage of foreign systems does not absolve facts of indigenous design, some of which are on the plane and some others falling short of requirements. India does have an engine program that was attached to Tejas, an indigenous radar and many sub systems that will eventually find its way back to the platform.
There are other systems that have spun off from the Tejas and even being used by Boeing, Airbus and Race car manufactures to design, analyze composites or help in reduction of weight. We are extremely proud of such achievements and equally disappointed in some others.
http://www.aeromag.in/Magazines/6868929262.pdf
(See Page 10)

Finally, just because you don't claim a 100% indigenous product doesn't mean we cant ask you the percentage or even a list of parts that were completely design, developed and made in Pakistan from scratch. Of course, for some one already using the "we don't claim an indigenous design", and having no fact sheet on Pakistan' contribution, the number of planes flying seem to be the only claim to fame. Hence, I and many others here keep saying, don't compare a platform to a product - JF17 is only a product that Pakistan can manufacture from kits and systems developed outside, Vs Tejas -a platform.

Lastly, you do bring up a valid and important point about availability of top engineers. India goes way beyond how it uses resources for it's defense needs. I can't tell you much but if you are interested, look which poor state in the US Abdul Kalam visited between 2006-2010, and that too twice!!! A university in that state has decent ranking and very few Indian Students. A little bit of research will point you to an Indian Professor and his team (Of all Indian orgin). He is an international expert in nano-tubes technology, a study of his grants, will tell you where the grant money came from. I can give you several examples, but the reason why I did quote this example is how any country can find resources when it's difficult to find one in your own country.
 
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