'ISRAEL WILL NOT HESITATE TO DESTROY SYRIAN AIR DEFENSES'

[DavidSling]

You regime has fake free media, that is what you want to show to the world to call you a democracy, while any Usraeli murderer or corrupt will be innocented by your courts, and a 9 year old Palestinian throwing rocks on your occupying soldiers will go to jail and be kept there for years, on of sight from your media and justice system!?


Lies and more lies, you do prefer to lie to justify your stands.. How can Egypt be occupied by the Brits and have their weapons, What Syrian army, Syria was occupied by the French!?

The formal protectorate over Egypt did not long outlast the war. It was brought to an end by the unilateral declaration of Egyptian independence on 28 February 1922. Shortly afterwards, Sultan Fuad I declared himself King of Egypt, but the British occupation continued, in accordance with several reserve clauses in the declaration of independence. The situation was normalised in the Anglo-Egyptian treaty of 1936, which granted Britain the right to station troops in Egypt for the defence of the Suez Canal, its link with the Indian Empire. Britain also continued to control the training of the Egyptian Army. During the Second World War (1939–45), Egypt came under attack from Italian Libya on account of the British presence there, although Egypt itself remained neutral until late in the war. After the war Egypt sought to modify the treaty, but it was abrogated in its entirety by an anti-British government in October 1951. After the Egyptian Revolution of 1952, the British agreed to withdraw their troops and by June 1956 had done so. Britain went to war against Egypt over the Suez Canal in late 1956, but with insufficient international support was forced to back down.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Egypt_under_the_British

The Mandate for Syria and the Lebanon (French: Mandat français pour la Syrie et le Liban; Arabic: الانتداب الفرنسي على سوريا ولبنان‎‎ al-intidāb al-fransi 'ala suriya wa-lubnān) (1923−1946)[1] was a League of Nations mandate[2] founded after the First World War and the partitioning of the Ottoman Empire concerning Syria and the Lebanon. The mandate system was supposed to differ from colonialism, with the governing country acting as a trustee until the inhabitants would be able to stand on their own. At that point, the mandate would terminate and an independent state would be born.[3]

During the two years that followed the end of the war in 1918 – and in accordance with the Sykes-Picot Agreement signed by Britain and France during the war – the British held control of most of Ottoman Mesopotamia (modern Iraq) and the southern part of Ottoman Syria (Palestine and Transjordan), while the French controlled the rest of Ottoman Syria, Lebanon, Alexandretta (Hatay) and other portions of southeastern Turkey.[2] In the early 1920s, British and French control of these territories became formalized by the League of Nations' mandate system, and on 29 September 1923 France was assigned the League of Nations mandate of Syria, which included the territory of present-day Lebanon and Alexandretta in addition to Syria proper.[4]

The administration of the region under the French was carried out through a number of different governments and territories, including the Syrian Federation (1922–24), the State of Syria (1924–30) and the Syrian Republic (1930–1958), as well as smaller states: the State of Greater Lebanon, the Alawite State and Jabal Druze State. Hatay was annexed by Turkey in 1939. The French mandate lasted until 1943, when two independent countries emerged, Syria and Lebanon. French troops completely left Syria and Lebanon in 1946.[5]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_Mandate_for_Syria_and_the_Lebanon

You regime has fake free media, that is what you want to show to the world to call you a democracy, while any Usraeli murderer or corrupt will be innocented by your courts, and a 9 year old Palestinian throwing rocks on your occupying soldiers will go to jail and be kept there for years, on of sight from your media and justice system!?


Lies and more lies, you do prefer to lie to justify your stands.. How can Egypt be occupied by the Brits and have their weapons, What Syrian army, Syria was occupied by the French!?


You showed the wreckage of your arrow that has supposedly shot the S-200, so where is the latter?

I showed the wreckage of Arrow 2, as it claimed to be, BY JORDAN.
it didn't land in Israel, and Israel didn't film it.
For all I know it might be S-200 and Arrow 2 wreckage

 

[The SC]

The formal protectorate over Egypt did not long outlast the war. It was brought to an end by the unilateral declaration of Egyptian independence on 28 February 1922. Shortly afterwards, Sultan Fuad I declared himself King of Egypt, but the British occupation continued, in accordance with several reserve clauses in the declaration of independence. The situation was normalised in the Anglo-Egyptian treaty of 1936, which granted Britain the right to station troops in Egypt for the defence of the Suez Canal, its link with the Indian Empire. Britain also continued to control the training of the Egyptian Army. During the Second World War (1939–45), Egypt came under attack from Italian Libya on account of the British presence there, although Egypt itself remained neutral until late in the war. After the war Egypt sought to modify the treaty, but it was abrogated in its entirety by an anti-British government in October 1951. After the Egyptian Revolution of 1952, the British agreed to withdraw their troops and by June 1956 had done so. Britain went to war against Egypt over the Suez Canal in late 1956, but with insufficient international support was forced to back down.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Egypt_under_the_British

The Mandate for Syria and the Lebanon (French: Mandat français pour la Syrie et le Liban; Arabic: الانتداب الفرنسي على سوريا ولبنان‎‎ al-intidāb al-fransi 'ala suriya wa-lubnān) (1923−1946)[1] was a League of Nations mandate[2] founded after the First World War and the partitioning of the Ottoman Empire concerning Syria and the Lebanon. The mandate system was supposed to differ from colonialism, with the governing country acting as a trustee until the inhabitants would be able to stand on their own. At that point, the mandate would terminate and an independent state would be born.[3]

During the two years that followed the end of the war in 1918 – and in accordance with the Sykes-Picot Agreement signed by Britain and France during the war – the British held control of most of Ottoman Mesopotamia (modern Iraq) and the southern part of Ottoman Syria (Palestine and Transjordan), while the French controlled the rest of Ottoman Syria, Lebanon, Alexandretta (Hatay) and other portions of southeastern Turkey.[2] In the early 1920s, British and French control of these territories became formalized by the League of Nations' mandate system, and on 29 September 1923 France was assigned the League of Nations mandate of Syria, which included the territory of present-day Lebanon and Alexandretta in addition to Syria proper.[4]

The administration of the region under the French was carried out through a number of different governments and territories, including the Syrian Federation (1922–24), the State of Syria (1924–30) and the Syrian Republic (1930–1958), as well as smaller states: the State of Greater Lebanon, the Alawite State and Jabal Druze State. Hatay was annexed by Turkey in 1939. The French mandate lasted until 1943, when two independent countries emerged, Syria and Lebanon. French troops completely left Syria and Lebanon in 1946.[5]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_Mandate_for_Syria_and_the_Lebanon


I showed the wreckage of Arrow 2, as it claimed to be, BY JORDAN.
it didn't land in Israel, and Israel didn't film it.
For all I know it might be S-200 and Arrow 2 wreckage

And Syria got an ARMY and weapons in 2 years; from 1946 to 1948!!!!?

 

[DavidSling]

And Syria got an ARMY and weapons in 2 years; from 1946 to 1948!!!!?

In the day Israel formed it was in war by the arab states, so according to u, it got all the weapons in the same day.
Don't be ridiculous, it's more than possible to form an army in 2 years lol.
And those caps lol.
Oh, and btw, just proved all of ur statements as lies, just shows ur real image, u lier.
Expected nothing more

 

[The SC]

In the day Israel formed it was in war by the arab states, so according to u, it got all the weapons in the same day.
Don't be ridiculous, it's more than possible to form an army in 2 years lol.
And those caps lol.
Oh, and btw, just proved all of ur statements as lies, just shows ur real image, u lier.
Expected nothing more

Don't be ridiculous yourself and keep lying, I told you many times ago to go read "O"Jerusalem book the authority book on the middle eastern conflict, you' ll see that The Irgun and Stern(your two terrorist organizations) with the covert help of the Brits and French were getting weapons into Palestine for decades before the war..

 

[Michael Corleone]

Usrael has never been weak, in 1948 it was backed by the UK and France, and the Usraeli fighters had the WW2 experience, while most of the neighbouring Arab states were still under British rule and had very weak armies, if one would call that "armies" with WW1 weapons if any!

Israels armed forces had humble beginnings... I am impressed y'all defended against Arab invasion with scrap tanks left behind from WW2...

But ofc slowly you guys overgrew any of the Arab nations

 

[The SC]

Israels armed forces had humble beginnings... I am impressed y'all defended against Arab invasion with scrap tanks left behind from WW2...

But ofc slowly you guys overgrew any of the Arab nations

The Arabs didn't even had scrap tanks, they had WW1 rifles!
I think you are mistaken in addressing me as "you guys".. I am a Muslim Arab..what about you?

 

[DavidSling]

The Arabs didn't even had scrap tanks, they had WW1 rifles!
I think you are mistaken in addressing me as "you guys".. I am a Muslim Arab..what about you?

Small Arms Lee–Enfield rifles, Bren Guns, Sten guns, MAS 36s

They had kinda modern guns for the era, and in much bigger numbers

 

[The SC]

Small Arms Lee–Enfield rifles, Bren Guns, Sten guns, MAS 36s

They had kinda modern guns for the era, and in much bigger numbers

You are talking about the Usraelis, don't get mixed up!

 

[DavidSling]

You are talking about the Usraelis, don't get mixed up!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1948_Arab–Israeli_War

under weapons

 

[The SC]

As one can see from the following Wiki article with sources, The US and the West have supported the Usraelis with weapons, training and even by sending volunteers, Jews and non-Jews alike..While the article does not mention the killing of 40 000 Palestinian men by the Brits just before handing the key of Jerusalem to the Jews in 1948..(Source, from the book "O"Jerusalem)..
So what we see today is the obvious continuation of this support and mischief.. How many times did Usrael bomb Syria, just in the last few 5 years or so with impunity?

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Armed forces
By September 1947 the Haganah had "10,489 rifles, 702 light machine-guns, 2,666 submachine guns, 186 medium machine-guns, 672 two-inch mortars and 92 three-inch (76 mm) mortars".[44]

Importing arms
In 1946, Ben-Gurion decided that the Yishuv would probably have to defend itself against both the Palestinian Arabs and neighbouring Arab states and accordingly began a "massive, covert arms acquisition campaign in the West", and acquired many more during the first few months of hostilities.



An Israeli Avia S-199, in June 1948
The Yishuv managed to clandestinely amass arms and military equipment abroad for transfer to Palestine once the British blockade was lifted. In the United States, Yishuv agents purchased three Boeing B-17 Flying Fortress bombers, one of which bombed Cairo in July 1948, some Curtiss C-46 Commando transport planes, and dozens of half-tracks, which were repainted and defined as "agricultural equipment". In Western Europe, Haganah agents amassed fifty 65mm French mountain guns, twelve 120mm mortars, ten H-35 light tanks, and a large number of half-tracks. By mid-May or thereabouts the Yishuv had purchased from Czechoslovakia 25 Avia S-199 fighters (an inferior version of the Messerschmitt Bf-109), 200 heavy machine guns, 5,021 light machine guns, 24,500 rifles, and 52 million rounds of ammunition, enough to equip all units, but short of heavy arms.[45] The airborne arms smuggling missions from Czechoslovakia were codenamed Operation Balak.

The airborne smuggling missions were carried out by mostly American aviators – Jews and non-Jews – led by ex-U.S. Air Transport Command flight engineer Al Schwimmer.

Schwimmer’s operation also included recruiting and training fighter pilots such as Lou Lenart, commander of the first Israeli air assault against the Arabs.[46][47]

Arms production
The Yishuv also had "a relatively advanced arms producing capacity", that between October 1947 and July 1948" produced 3 million 9 mm bullets, 150,000 Mills grenades, 16,000 submachine guns (Sten Guns) and 210 three-inch (76 mm) mortars",[44] along with a few "Davidka" mortars, which had been indigenously designed and produced. They were inaccurate but had a spectacularly loud explosion that demoralized the enemy. A large amount of the munitions used by the Israelis came from the Ayalon Institute, a clandestine bullet factory underneath kibbutz Ayalon, which produced about 2.5 million bullets for Sten guns. The munitions produced by the Ayalon Institute were said to have been the only supply that was not in shortage during the war. Locally produced explosives were also plentiful. After Israel's independence, these clandestine arms manufacturing operations no longer had to be concealed, and were moved above ground. All of the Haganah's weapons-manufacturing was centralized and later became Israel Military Industries.[48]

Manpower
In November 1947, the Haganah was an underground paramilitary force that had existed as a highly organized, national force, since the Arab riots of 1920–21, and throughout the riots of 1929, Great Uprising of 1936–39,[44] and World War 2. It had a mobile force, the HISH, which had 2,000 full-time fighters (men and women) and 10,000 reservists (all aged between 18 and 25) and an elite unit, the Palmach composed of 2,100 fighters and 1,000 reservists. The reservists trained three or four days a month[citation needed] and went back to civilian life the rest of the time. These mobile forces could rely on a garrison force, the HIM (Heil Mishmar, lit. Guard Corps), composed of people aged over 25. The Yishuv's total strength was around 35,000 with 15,000 to 18,000 fighters and a garrison force of roughly 20,000.[44][49]

There were also several thousand men and women who had served in the British Army in World War II who did not serve in any of the underground militias but would provide valuable military experience during the war.[50] Walid Khalidi says the Yishuv had the additional forces of the Jewish Settlement Police, numbering some 12,000, the Gadna Youth Battalions, and the armed settlers.[51] Few of the units had been trained by December 1947.[44] On 5 December 1947, conscription was instituted for all men and women aged between 17 and 25 and by the end of March, 21,000 had been conscripted.[52] On 30 March, the call-up was extended to men and single women aged between 26 and 35. Five days later, a General Mobilization order was issued for all men under 40.[53]

Irgun
The Irgun, whose activities were considered by MI5 to be terrorism, was monitored by the British.[54]

By March 1948, the Yishuv had a numerical superiority, with 35,780 mobilised and deployed fighters for the Haganah,[55][56] 3,000 of Stern and Irgun, and a few thousand armed settlers.[57]

Arab forces
The effective number of Arab combatants is listed at 12,000 by some historians[58] while others calculate a total Arab strength of approximately 23,500 troops, and with this being more of less or roughly equal to that of the Yishuv. However, as Israel mobilized most of its most able citizens during the war while the Arab troops were only a small percentage of its far greater population, the strength of the Yishuv grew steadily and dramatically during the war.[59]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1948_Arab–Israeli_War

 

[DavidSling]

As one can see from the following Wiki article with sources, The US and the West have supported the Usraelis with weapons, training and even by sending volunteers, Jews and non-Jews alike..While the article does not mention the killing of 40 000 Palestinian men by the Brits just before handing the key of Jerusalem to the Jews in 1948..(Source, from the book "O"Jerusalem)..
So what we see today is the obvious continuation of this support and mischief.. How many times did Usrael bomb Syria, just in the last few 5 years or so with impunity?

===============================================

Armed forces
By September 1947 the Haganah had "10,489 rifles, 702 light machine-guns, 2,666 submachine guns, 186 medium machine-guns, 672 two-inch mortars and 92 three-inch (76 mm) mortars".[44]

Importing arms
In 1946, Ben-Gurion decided that the Yishuv would probably have to defend itself against both the Palestinian Arabs and neighbouring Arab states and accordingly began a "massive, covert arms acquisition campaign in the West", and acquired many more during the first few months of hostilities.



An Israeli Avia S-199, in June 1948
The Yishuv managed to clandestinely amass arms and military equipment abroad for transfer to Palestine once the British blockade was lifted. In the United States, Yishuv agents purchased three Boeing B-17 Flying Fortress bombers, one of which bombed Cairo in July 1948, some Curtiss C-46 Commando transport planes, and dozens of half-tracks, which were repainted and defined as "agricultural equipment". In Western Europe, Haganah agents amassed fifty 65mm French mountain guns, twelve 120mm mortars, ten H-35 light tanks, and a large number of half-tracks. By mid-May or thereabouts the Yishuv had purchased from Czechoslovakia 25 Avia S-199 fighters (an inferior version of the Messerschmitt Bf-109), 200 heavy machine guns, 5,021 light machine guns, 24,500 rifles, and 52 million rounds of ammunition, enough to equip all units, but short of heavy arms.[45] The airborne arms smuggling missions from Czechoslovakia were codenamed Operation Balak.

The airborne smuggling missions were carried out by mostly American aviators – Jews and non-Jews – led by ex-U.S. Air Transport Command flight engineer Al Schwimmer.

Schwimmer’s operation also included recruiting and training fighter pilots such as Lou Lenart, commander of the first Israeli air assault against the Arabs.[46][47]

Arms production
The Yishuv also had "a relatively advanced arms producing capacity", that between October 1947 and July 1948" produced 3 million 9 mm bullets, 150,000 Mills grenades, 16,000 submachine guns (Sten Guns) and 210 three-inch (76 mm) mortars",[44] along with a few "Davidka" mortars, which had been indigenously designed and produced. They were inaccurate but had a spectacularly loud explosion that demoralized the enemy. A large amount of the munitions used by the Israelis came from the Ayalon Institute, a clandestine bullet factory underneath kibbutz Ayalon, which produced about 2.5 million bullets for Sten guns. The munitions produced by the Ayalon Institute were said to have been the only supply that was not in shortage during the war. Locally produced explosives were also plentiful. After Israel's independence, these clandestine arms manufacturing operations no longer had to be concealed, and were moved above ground. All of the Haganah's weapons-manufacturing was centralized and later became Israel Military Industries.[48]

Manpower
In November 1947, the Haganah was an underground paramilitary force that had existed as a highly organized, national force, since the Arab riots of 1920–21, and throughout the riots of 1929, Great Uprising of 1936–39,[44] and World War 2. It had a mobile force, the HISH, which had 2,000 full-time fighters (men and women) and 10,000 reservists (all aged between 18 and 25) and an elite unit, the Palmach composed of 2,100 fighters and 1,000 reservists. The reservists trained three or four days a month[citation needed] and went back to civilian life the rest of the time. These mobile forces could rely on a garrison force, the HIM (Heil Mishmar, lit. Guard Corps), composed of people aged over 25. The Yishuv's total strength was around 35,000 with 15,000 to 18,000 fighters and a garrison force of roughly 20,000.[44][49]

There were also several thousand men and women who had served in the British Army in World War II who did not serve in any of the underground militias but would provide valuable military experience during the war.[50] Walid Khalidi says the Yishuv had the additional forces of the Jewish Settlement Police, numbering some 12,000, the Gadna Youth Battalions, and the armed settlers.[51] Few of the units had been trained by December 1947.[44] On 5 December 1947, conscription was instituted for all men and women aged between 17 and 25 and by the end of March, 21,000 had been conscripted.[52] On 30 March, the call-up was extended to men and single women aged between 26 and 35. Five days later, a General Mobilization order was issued for all men under 40.[53]

Irgun
The Irgun, whose activities were considered by MI5 to be terrorism, was monitored by the British.[54]

By March 1948, the Yishuv had a numerical superiority, with 35,780 mobilised and deployed fighters for the Haganah,[55][56] 3,000 of Stern and Irgun, and a few thousand armed settlers.[57]

Arab forces
The effective number of Arab combatants is listed at 12,000 by some historians[58] while others calculate a total Arab strength of approximately 23,500 troops, and with this being more of less or roughly equal to that of the Yishuv. However, as Israel mobilized most of its most able citizens during the war while the Arab troops were only a small percentage of its far greater population, the strength of the Yishuv grew steadily and dramatically during the war.[59]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1948_Arab–Israeli_War

I know that west supported Israel, but to compare it to the armies that to arab armies is just, lol.
IDF was built upon volunteers, and jewish fighting organizations, but mostly on un trained conscripted people, while arabs sent in military men.

 

[Michael Corleone]

The Arabs didn't even had scrap tanks, they had WW1 rifles!
I think you are mistaken in addressing me as "you guys".. I am a Muslim Arab..what about you?

I'm using mobile app... didn't see you're having canadian flag... I assumed you're israeli. Me I am a mix, for simplicity Bangladeshi born in Kuwait.

 

[The SC]

I know that west supported Israel, but to compare it to the armies that to arab armies is just, lol.
IDF was built upon volunteers, and jewish fighting organizations, but mostly on un trained conscripted people, while arabs sent in military men.

Don't try to justify your self by arguing for the sake of arguing, the Arabs did not have armies at that time, most of them have been British and French colonies or under mandates.. so here goes your argument to the trash bin..
Irgun and Stern were organized armed groups even manufacturing western weapons underground with the help of the Brits and the French and many other WW2 allies.. just remember that some European Jews fought side by side with the allies in WW2 and they got compensated by getting Palestine as a gift, also the Mufti of Palestine sided with the Germans in WW2.. that explains it boldly..

I'm using mobile app... didn't see you're having canadian flag... I assumed you're israeli. Me I am a mix, for simplicity Bangladeshi born in Kuwait.

Welcome..How do you do!

 

[Michael Corleone]

Don't try to justify your self by arguing for the sake of arguing, the Arabs did not have armies at that time, most of them have been British and French colonies or under mandates.. so here goes your argument to the trash bin..
Irgun and Stern were organized armed groups even manufacturing western weapons underground with the help of the Brits and the French and many other WW2 allies.. just remember that some European Jews fought side by side with the allies in WW2 and they got compensated by getting Palestine as a gift, also the Mufti of Palestine sided with the Germans in WW2.. that explains it boldly..


Welcome..How do you do!

Terrific. How about you, Nice meeting you!

 

[The SC]

Terrific. How about you, Nice meeting you!

Nice meeting you too.. what are you doing in Ukraine, it is a beautiful place..(without the war, obviously)..

OT:
This is the first time in a while that we see a Syrian response the the Usraeli usual air raids.. is this a sign of anew Syrian policy?