NONE of the above posts would reject the criticism of islam & BTW we Welcome a Healthy & reasonable criticism with dailouge.
Please specify this "we". Because a lot of members here and on other international forums fail to understand that every religion has its own shortcomings which we can change by looking at each other. Their intolerance and denial gets the best of them. You seem to be open minded but a lot of people are not.
Muslims are being discriminated in EU just because of their Faith and it is Islamophobia , no one EVER has stopped you from criticising Al Qaeda or other organizations .
My dear friend, fundamentalism and intolerance isn't just limited to terrorist organizations. In social circles too, sometimes there are cases where such unfavourable situations occur which is opposed by people. What discrimination is done to Muslims in Europe? They get the same benefits as that of the domestic population. They get an equally good lifestyle as that of a European.
Now there are certain things that ALL the Europeans follow as civil customs regardless of faith which becomes a problem for only one community. How can this be altered and favoured for just one community when all others are following it?
Where ever the Free practice of religion is prohibited and the Religion is criticised that society is a Phobic society ie French and Swiss.
Those Muslims living in France and Switzerland are French and swiss , they are born and bread there & they have the every right to practice their religion in the Right way .
In France, the female veil is not allowed and so also the headscarf because NO religious symbols are allowed to be shown in government offices regardless of faith. Jews don't wear skull caps there, Christians don't brandish big crosses, Hindus cannot display any of their symbols, not any one else can. It is called "Secular law" which everyone has to follow. Besides, after 9/11, there is always a security risk and therefore it is natural to ban such a concealing attire that could endanger lives.
Another example: in France, swimming with clothing on is not allowed because of hygienic reasons. Every community, conservative or liberal has to follow it. Neither the people of eastern faiths nor conservative Christians and Jews complained. Why did only a Muslim woman raise hell on the issue that is followed by everyone? Isn't this the breach of secular culture in the country?
And FYI we Swiss are least bit discriminative. Don't come back to me with posters of pictures showing political propaganda that has not been implemented in our immigration policy. If you are indicating the minaret ban, minarets are simply not a part of Swiss culture as it is common practice in Islamic countries. There are a lot of faiths that are to be followed in some specific ways but are restricted to certain levels. Again here I ask you, when all these communities are following the restrictions and adapting, why only Muslim community is raising the "Islamophobia" issue which is not the case?
I am sure that a lot of Muslim countries don't allow religious freedom anywhere close to European continent in their own countries for other faiths and migrants. We don't discriminate on a person's practise of religion; please don't accuse us of things that we aren't. 'Islamophobia' has become a convenient veil to silence even the least bit of criticism that points out at certain out-of-place concepts.
Why a govt has a place in a women's wardrone , why they have to ask her what to and what not to wear?
Because of identity compromise. Even a terrorist can hide in a veil and cause chaos as policemen won't be able to confirm the identity of the person. If the militant is a woman (as we had seen in the case of Moscow bombings), then to establish her identity in the database gets compromised again with a veil or even a head cover that hides the head, the ears etc.
Gone to hell the freedom of religion , what about civil liberty ?
Mosques are Banned from Puting up a Minarate , Women are banned from wearing Hijab , Men with the beard are considered Suspicious , Muslims are being denied Jobs and other services.
For minaret ban and women clothing, refer my response above. Regarding men with beards, certain ethnicities are suspected on the grounds of past mistakes. Even European men and many of them sport full beards. Why this stereotype doesn't go along with them? And most European authorities here are instructed to be as polite even when checking a potential suspect until he is proven guilty. I don't see that happening so in your Asia, where even tourists are checked as though we are certainly carrying bombs around with us.
About Jobs and services, I assure you its not in our government policy and anything a company does doesn't reflect the national mindset but the mindset of the organization. If such has been your experience, it is very regrettable and bad of that organization to have discriminated you. I support you on that matter.
EU zone needs to get a brain and stop their Islamophobia before it leads to a social disaster.
You shouldn't be saying that after the kind of militant attacks that have happened in the recent past of every major European country. This term "Islamophobia" is generalized against us Europeans to silence even the tiniest criticism we make. But what is followed by all the citizens regardless of faith
cannot be changed for the convenience of one community. Feel free to criticize or disagree.
Democracy wins.
