Islamabad nudges UN veto club on Kashmir

[ito]

There is nothing to be surprised. As they say sabse bada rupaiya.

 

[Sipahi]

There is nothing to be surprised. As they say sabse bada rupaiya.

40+ trillion USD ki Economies doob jayen gi I can understand what you are saying

 

[eddie01]

No matter what you like to believe but the happenings in Kashmir are just making Pakistan's and Kashmiris case stronger while exposing India and her democracy.


In a democracy people have rights to protest and are not shunned by curfews and bullets.

pakistan always come strong when it comes to kashmir... but the point is , is it enough to expose democratic India in front of entire world or is it easy to find hide outs of Bin laden type of masss murderer inside pakistan. now you decide which is the best way to expose a country ..

 

[Indian_Devil]

Here is the reply -


Describing Kashmir as an internal matter of India, the US has said it is concerned over the violence and asked all stakeholders to make efforts towards finding a peaceful resolution to the issue following the killing of Hizbul commander Burhan Wani in the Valley.

"We have seen reports of the clashes between protesters and Indian forces in Kashmir, and are concerned by the violence. We encourage all sides to make efforts towards finding a peaceful resolution," a State Department spokesman said.

The spokesman said the US has not spoken to Indian officials on this issue as it is an internal matter of India.
"We have not. This is an internal matter for the government of India"

http://www.deccanherald.com/content/557426/kashmir-internal-matter-india-us.html

 

[weqi]

dunia ko hay phir marka-e-rooh-o-badan pesh
tehzeeb nay phir apnay darindoN ko ubhara

Allah ko hay pamardiay momin pay bharosa
iblees ko europe ki machinoN ka sahara

Taqdeer-e-umam kia hay koi keh nahiN sakta
momin ki farasat ho to kafi hay ishara

 

[Mangus Ortus Novem]

dunia ko hay phir marka-e-rooh-o-badan pesh
tehzeeb nay phir apnay darindoN ko ubhara

Allah ko hay pamardiay momin pay bharosa
iblees ko europe ki machinoN ka sahara

Taqdeer-e-umam kia hay koi keh nahiN sakta
momin ki farasat ho to kafi hay ishara

Could not understand..if important, please, do translate.

Indians are an alien force trying to colonise an alien land and people...

No, force can keep it under control. And systematic oppression is only going to further deepen this.

Kashmir is the hot potato in every one's lap...this tragedy has long been tried to put under the rug.

Failure is on Pak side for not keeping it to the forefront of their diplomatic efforts. Paying only lip service to this tragedy is amazing.

Aren't Kashmiris your kin in every sense?

 

[war&peace]

I don't think any of the P5 would like to make India angry.

They made it on NSG...May be I didn't hear the news but can you tell me if you got into NSG?

Go to P10 if you want for all we care.
There ain't a force on this planet that will make us give in what is ours.

This is the arrogance which will get India thermonuked sooner or later.

 

[anonymous2]

Let's forget for a moment that India was a much weaker country in 90s (and vulenrable too as Boris Yeltsin's Russia would not have vetoed any anti-India resolution and US was still cold towards India) and still no P-5 country raised its voice in UN on behalf of Kashmir or the fact that India is too important for economic interest of P5; Pakistanis really think that their case would get a hearing when general population of 3 out of 5 countries believes that a good muslim is a dead muslim! and 4th is a traditional ally of India.

This is dossier 2.0 in making. US has publicly asked Pakistan to STFU (links already posted by other posters). I only imagine how hard France and UK's diplomats ,with memories of r@pe gangs and terrorist attacks fresh in their mind, would have tried fo hold back their contempt when Pakistani diplomats implored them to support Islamic terrorists in valley.

Even China would remain shut up as India hosts Tibetan government in exile and is perfectly capable to pay China back with its own coin (Hafiz Saeed and Dolkun Isa episode). +anything China says about Kashmir is also applicable on Taiwan, Tibet, XinXiang, Outer Mongolia, and probably even Manchuria, so it would not want to say anything which would come back to haunt it.

 

[Tiger Genie]

I admire Pakistan's tenacity - most logical states would see the writing on the wall and the way the wind is blowing across the world. I am amazed they think the world powers will have an ounce of sympathy for the case of Pakistan. They couldn't dislodge India during the Reagan era when they were the darlings of the west. Now they are pretty loathed around the world.

it is Pak military's battle for its own survival and enrichment; not tenacity of Pak or any thing remotely redeeming.

 

[Indian009]

They made it on NSG...May be I didn't hear the news but can you tell me if you got into NSG?
.

Ohh no. India didn't get NSG membership.
But i will also tell you one thing that you might not have heard. Thanks to the India specific waiver India already have access and supply to the desired goods and tech.
I hope I updated you.

 

[ito]

They made it on NSG...May be I didn't hear the news but can you tell me if you got into NSG?

Who made it on NSG? I am not sure what you want to convey. Anyway, if you are comparing NSG and Kashmir, then you could not be more wrong. Kashmir for India is very emotional issue. I don't think any country would like to be on the wrong side of India.

 

[Allen Iverson]

Its always fun to see Indian blabberings . Whole world can see how kashmiries are defying this supa powa and are giving hero's burial to their martyrs .

India herself is highlighting Kashmir again and again thus making job of our foreign mission easy.

We are what we are.. History is the same, irrespective of how many distortions one may try to make.. And the history of Kashmir remains the same as we all know and I don't have to repeat it.. Now as for UN resolution which goes as below

1) Pakistan vacate it's forces from J&K(including Gilgit-Baltistan).
2) India takes control of J&K and establishes law & order.
3) A Plebiscite be conducted only after conditions 1 & 2 have been met. The plebiscite be conducted regionally (Seperately for Jammu, Kashmir, Ladakh, Gilgit & Baltistan).
Now if Pakistani polity and Seperatists thinks that there is a freedom struggle going on, then act as per the UN resolution and support a voting monitored by UN and we are ready to accept the resolution any day..

But Pakistan will never do that, because we all know how Pakistan got hold of Azad Kashmir or Azad Kashmir (As claimed by Pakistan) and they will never in a Hundred years consider demilitarising it.. Then why should we be heeding to the seperatist's crocodile tears and fake sympathy from Pakistani establishment for Kashmiri's..

We are not going to step down in a thousand years from the claim that Kashmir belonged to India and will belong to India in any near future.. If the seperatists and Jihadi's think that they can get away with coward attacks on our forces, then this is what is going to happen.. We can keep doing this for centuries to come, but we won't give away an inch of our soil in Kashmir..

Could not understand..if important, please, do translate.

Indians are an alien force trying to colonise an alien land and people...

No, force can keep it under control. And systematic oppression is only going to further deepen this.

Kashmir is the hot potato in every one's lap...this tragedy has long been tried to put under the rug.

Failure is on Pak side for not keeping it to the forefront of their diplomatic efforts. Paying only lip service to this tragedy is amazing.

Aren't Kashmiris your kin in every sense?

No my friend, Indian's are not an alien force.. Pls read the history from a neutral perspective. Kashmir was an integral part of India if you go back in history for any long.. when we got independence fro British, there were choices for the Ruler of Kashmir Maharaja Hari singh (Kashmir was a princely state back then).. The choices were
1. Annexe Kashmir with Pakistan
2. Annexe Kashmir with India
3. Continue to remain a princely state or an Independent state..
Maharaja chose to remain as an Independent state.. We respected that. From that point onwards pls read below to know what exactly happened.. And for God's sake don't pass lose comments on things you don't know or you haven't read..

Maharaja Hari Singh's Letter to Mountbatten
Text Of Letter Dated October 26, 1947 From Hari Singh, The Maharaja Of Jammu & Kashmir to Lord Mountbatten, Governor General of India.
Dated: 26 October 1947

My dear Lord Mountbatten,

I have to inform your Excellency that a grave emergency has arisen in my State and request immediate assistance of your Government.

As your Excellency is aware the State of Jammu and Kashmir has not acceded to the Dominion of India or to Pakistan. Geographically my State is contiguous to both the Dominions. It has vital economical and cultural links with both of them. Besides my State has a common boundary with the Soviet Republic and China. In their external relations the Dominions of India and Pakistan cannot ignore this fact.

I wanted to take time to decide to which Dominion I should accede, or whether it is not in the best interests of both the Dominions and my State to stand independent, of course with friendly and cordial relations with both.

I accordingly approached the Dominions of India and Pakistan to enter into Standstill Agreement with my State. The Pakistan Government accepted this Agreement. The Dominion of India desired further discussions with representatives of my Government. I could not arrange this in view of the developments indicated below. In fact the Pakistan Government are operating Post and Telegraph system inside the State.

Though we have got a Standstill Agreement with the Pakistan Government that Government permitted steady and increasing strangulation of supplies like food, salt and petrol to my State.

Afridis, soldiers in plain clothes, and desperadoes with modern weapons have been allowed to infilter into the State at first in Poonch and then in Sialkot and finally in mass area adjoining Hazara District on the Ramkot side. The result has been that the limited number of troops at the disposal of the State had to be dispersed and thus had to face the enemy at the several points simultaneously, that it has become difficult to stop the wanton destruction of life and property and looting. The Mahora powerhouse which supplies the electric current to the whole of Srinagar has been burnt. The number of women who have been kidnapped and raped makes my heart bleed. The wild forces thus let loose on the State are marching on with the aim of capturing Srinagar, the summer Capital of my Government, as first step to over-running the whole State.

The mass infiltration of tribesmen drawn from distant areas of the North-West Frontier coming regularly in motor trucks using Mansehra-Muzaffarabad Road and fully armed with up-to-date weapons cannot possibly be done without the knowledge of the Provisional Government of the North-West Frontier Province and the Government of Pakistan. In spite of repeated requests made by my Government no attempt has been made to check these raiders or stop them from coming into my State. The Pakistan Radio even put out a story that a Provisional Government had been set up in Kashmir. The people of my State both the Muslims and non-Muslims generally have taken no part at all.

With the conditions obtaining at present in my State and the great emergency of the situation as it exists, I have no option but to ask for help from the Indian Dominion. Naturally they cannot send the help asked for by me without my State acceding to the Dominion of India. I have accordingly decided to do so and I attach the Instrument of Accession for acceptance by your Government. The other alternative is to leave my State and my people to free-booters. On this basis no civilized Government can exist or be maintained. This alternative I will never allow to happen as long as I am Ruler of the State and I have life to defend my country.

I am also to inform your Excellency's Government that it is my intention at once to set up an interim Government and ask Sheikh Abdullah to carry the responsibilities in this emergency with my Prime Minister.

If my State has to be saved immediate assistance must be available at Srinagar. Mr. Menon is fully aware of the situation and he will explain to you, if further explanation is needed.

In haste and with kind regards,



The Palace, Jammu Your sincerely,
26th October, 1947 Hari Singh

Ohh no. India didn't get NSG membership.
But i will also tell you one thing that you might not have heard. Thanks to the India specific waiver India already have access and supply to the desired goods and tech.
I hope I updated you.

And Also a retaliatory US support by making India a member of MTCR for which their master's (Chinese) are begging to be a part of since 2003.. Now all India have to do is to make sure that China doesn't enter MTCR ever..
Payback is a bitch Aint it !!!!!

 

[ito]

One thing for sure, any chance of revival of India Pakistan talks is dead for at least 2 years.

 

[Kyusuibu Honbu]

I admire Pakistan's tenacity - most logical states would see the writing on the wall and the way the wind is blowing across the world. I am amazed they think the world powers will have an ounce of sympathy for the case of Pakistan. They couldn't dislodge India during the Reagan era when they were the darlings of the west. Now they are pretty loathed around the world.

The whole thing is for domestic consumption probably.

 

[war&peace]

Who made it on NSG? I am not sure what you want to convey. Anyway, if you are comparing NSG and Kashmir, then you could not be more wrong. Kashmir for India is very emotional issue. I don't think any country would like to be on the wrong side of India.

India is standing on the wrong side of history...just wait a few years and you will see.