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Well what can i say being an Indian you can getway with such BS about trafficking of the 1000kg blast material.
But anyway lets ponder over another possibility.
Its is indeed possible to traffick such quantity of material by any International Embassy to help their funded terrorist against Pakistan.
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yes but india was the first to point fingers on i.s.i on kabul embassy and it was to early without evidence alongside with your doggy karzai who you are helping 'building roads'
with 6 or 7 consolates along durrand line.
a destabilized pakistan is in india,s interest
By KATHY GANNON 4 hours ago
ISLAMABAD, Pakistan (AP) The brazen truck-bombing of the Marriott hotel in Islamabad on Saturday is a warning from Islamic militants to Pakistan's new civilian leadership that it should end already-strained cooperation with the United States to pursue al-Qaida and the Taliban, analysts said.
The massive bomb targeting an American hotel chain killed at least 40 people and wounded hundreds, setting a fire that blazed for hours and gutted most of the five-story luxury hotel.
"The attack on the hotel is a message to the Pakistani leadership: End all cooperation with the Americans or pay the price," said Brian Glyn Williams, associate professor of Islamic history at the University of Massachusetts. "Both sides see Pakistan as a vital battlefield in their global struggle and clearly Pakistani civilians are paying the price for being in the middle of this struggle," he told The Associated Press.
Within hours of the explosion, Pakistan's Defense Minister Ahmed Mukhtar was quoted on local television channels blaming "foreigners" for the bombing. He pointed the finger at al Qaida and its Chechen and Uzbek members, whose hideouts in the tribal regions have been targeted by the Pakistan military.
Terrorism researcher Evan Kohlmann told The AP it is almost certainly either Al-Qaida or Pakistani Taliban.
"We are looking at either Al Qaida or Tehrik-e-Taliban (Pakistan)," Kohlmann said. "It seems that someone has a firm belief that hotels like the Marriott are serving as 'barracks' for western diplomats and intel personnel, and they are gunning pretty hard for them."
According to the U.S.-based IntelCenter, an Al Qaida video released to mark the anniversary of the Sept. 11, 2001 attacks in the United States threatened attacks against Western interests in Pakistan.
The threat was made by senior al-Qaida leader Mustafa Abu al-Yazid, who claimed responsibility for the summer bombing of the Danish Embassy in Islamabad.
"And we tell the ... people and Mujahedeen of Pakistan that in order for the Jihad in Afghanistan to continue and be victorious you must stand with your brothers the Mujahideen in Afghanistan to fight the puppet regime of Pakistan and its aggressive and tyrannical army and strike the interests of the Crusader allies in Pakistan," IntelCenter quoted Al-Yazid as saying.
Meanwhile, Pakistan's newly elected President Asif Zardari addressed the nation soon after the bombing, vowing not to be cowed and to step up Pakistan's assault on terrorists.
The U.S. has angered Pakistanis with increasing cross-border raids by its forces from Afghanistan to root out Islamic militants entrenched in the lawless and rugged tribal regions along the border.
Local newspapers are filled with outrage from columnists who accuse the United States of treating Pakistan as a surrogate, flaunting its sovereignty and killing innocents. Civilian casualties from the U.S. assaults have prompted tribesmen in the volatile frontier to threaten revolt.
Williams said the country's new leaders are caught between pressure from the U.S. to crack down on the militants and al-Qaida demands that they cut all ties with America.
Officials have harshly criticized U.S. incursions into Pakistani airspace and last week, Adm. Mike Mullen, chairman of the U.S. Joint Chiefs of Staff, visited Pakistan to try to calm the anger.
At the same time, the government is also talking tough to the other side.
Just hours before the suicide bombing, Zardari vowed to wage war against extremists who have been battling government troops in the violent northwest. Osama bin Laden and his top deputies are believed to be hiding in the border region and the U.S. claims al-Qaida and the Taliban have found a safe haven to regroup there.
Zardari has received several threats from al Qaida and the Taliban, who are suspected of assassinating his wife, former Prime Minister Benazir Bhutto, in December.
Last month al-Qaida No. 2 Ayman al-Zawahri accused Pakistan's new leaders of acting on behalf of the United States and called on his followers to rise up against them.
"Let there be no doubt in your minds that the dominant political forces at work in Pakistan today are competing to appease and please the modern day crusaders in the White House and are working to destabilize this nuclear-capable nation under the aegis of America," said an audio message purported to be from al-Zawahri.
The militant groups that operate in Pakistan's northwest are a ferocious and disparate group.
The Pakistani Taliban operate under the umbrella group, Tehrik-e-Taliban, which was established last December. It used a tried and tested strategy to gain control of the area promising to restore law and order.
Within months of taking control, the Pakistani Taliban then terrorizes the local population with public beheadings. Occasionally men accused of spying for the United States are taken to the center of the village and publicly beheaded. Taliban fighters often make videos of the gruesome beheadings that circulate in the markets in northwest Pakistan.
Daniel Markey, a fellow at the Council on Foreign Relations and former State Department official, questioned the government's ability to wage a successful battle without overhauling Pakistan's intelligence service, which is often accused of aiding and abetting the militants.
"They are able to fight but not able to win without a lot of changes," he said. "Most will have to be done by the Pakistani army and (intelligence), some by civilian government, and some that would need outside assistance," Markey added.
ISLAMABAD, Pakistan (AP) The brazen truck-bombing of the Marriott hotel in Islamabad on Saturday is a warning from Islamic militants to Pakistan's new civilian leadership that it should end already-strained cooperation with the United States to pursue al-Qaida and the Taliban, analysts said.
The massive bomb targeting an American hotel chain killed at least 40 people and wounded hundreds, setting a fire that blazed for hours and gutted most of the five-story luxury hotel.
"The attack on the hotel is a message to the Pakistani leadership: End all cooperation with the Americans or pay the price," said Brian Glyn Williams, associate professor of Islamic history at the University of Massachusetts. "Both sides see Pakistan as a vital battlefield in their global struggle and clearly Pakistani civilians are paying the price for being in the middle of this struggle," he told The Associated Press.
Within hours of the explosion, Pakistan's Defense Minister Ahmed Mukhtar was quoted on local television channels blaming "foreigners" for the bombing. He pointed the finger at al Qaida and its Chechen and Uzbek members, whose hideouts in the tribal regions have been targeted by the Pakistan military.
Terrorism researcher Evan Kohlmann told The AP it is almost certainly either Al-Qaida or Pakistani Taliban.
"We are looking at either Al Qaida or Tehrik-e-Taliban (Pakistan)," Kohlmann said. "It seems that someone has a firm belief that hotels like the Marriott are serving as 'barracks' for western diplomats and intel personnel, and they are gunning pretty hard for them."
According to the U.S.-based IntelCenter, an Al Qaida video released to mark the anniversary of the Sept. 11, 2001 attacks in the United States threatened attacks against Western interests in Pakistan.
The threat was made by senior al-Qaida leader Mustafa Abu al-Yazid, who claimed responsibility for the summer bombing of the Danish Embassy in Islamabad.
"And we tell the ... people and Mujahedeen of Pakistan that in order for the Jihad in Afghanistan to continue and be victorious you must stand with your brothers the Mujahideen in Afghanistan to fight the puppet regime of Pakistan and its aggressive and tyrannical army and strike the interests of the Crusader allies in Pakistan," IntelCenter quoted Al-Yazid as saying.
Meanwhile, Pakistan's newly elected President Asif Zardari addressed the nation soon after the bombing, vowing not to be cowed and to step up Pakistan's assault on terrorists.
The U.S. has angered Pakistanis with increasing cross-border raids by its forces from Afghanistan to root out Islamic militants entrenched in the lawless and rugged tribal regions along the border.
Local newspapers are filled with outrage from columnists who accuse the United States of treating Pakistan as a surrogate, flaunting its sovereignty and killing innocents. Civilian casualties from the U.S. assaults have prompted tribesmen in the volatile frontier to threaten revolt.
Williams said the country's new leaders are caught between pressure from the U.S. to crack down on the militants and al-Qaida demands that they cut all ties with America.
Officials have harshly criticized U.S. incursions into Pakistani airspace and last week, Adm. Mike Mullen, chairman of the U.S. Joint Chiefs of Staff, visited Pakistan to try to calm the anger.
At the same time, the government is also talking tough to the other side.
Just hours before the suicide bombing, Zardari vowed to wage war against extremists who have been battling government troops in the violent northwest. Osama bin Laden and his top deputies are believed to be hiding in the border region and the U.S. claims al-Qaida and the Taliban have found a safe haven to regroup there.
Zardari has received several threats from al Qaida and the Taliban, who are suspected of assassinating his wife, former Prime Minister Benazir Bhutto, in December.
Last month al-Qaida No. 2 Ayman al-Zawahri accused Pakistan's new leaders of acting on behalf of the United States and called on his followers to rise up against them.
"Let there be no doubt in your minds that the dominant political forces at work in Pakistan today are competing to appease and please the modern day crusaders in the White House and are working to destabilize this nuclear-capable nation under the aegis of America," said an audio message purported to be from al-Zawahri.
The militant groups that operate in Pakistan's northwest are a ferocious and disparate group.
The Pakistani Taliban operate under the umbrella group, Tehrik-e-Taliban, which was established last December. It used a tried and tested strategy to gain control of the area promising to restore law and order.
Within months of taking control, the Pakistani Taliban then terrorizes the local population with public beheadings. Occasionally men accused of spying for the United States are taken to the center of the village and publicly beheaded. Taliban fighters often make videos of the gruesome beheadings that circulate in the markets in northwest Pakistan.
Daniel Markey, a fellow at the Council on Foreign Relations and former State Department official, questioned the government's ability to wage a successful battle without overhauling Pakistan's intelligence service, which is often accused of aiding and abetting the militants.
"They are able to fight but not able to win without a lot of changes," he said. "Most will have to be done by the Pakistani army and (intelligence), some by civilian government, and some that would need outside assistance," Markey added.
47 minutes ago
ISLAMABAD (AFP) Rescue teams on Sunday continued the hunt for survivors in the ruins of Islamabad's Marriott Hotel, where a massive truck bomb killed at least 60 people including the Czech ambassador to Pakistan.
The Czech foreign ministry confirmed that Ambassador Ivo Zdarek had been killed in the blast, without giving further details.
Earlier, embassy officials told AFP that Zdarek called his embassy from inside the hotel moments after the explosion asking to be rescued, but had not been heard from since.
Czech media reports said police had pulled the diplomat's body from the smouldering ruins.
Around 200 people were wounded in the suicide attack on Saturday night in the heart of the capital, which came just hours after Pakistan's new president gave his inaugural address to parliament and vowed to stamp out terrorism.
The bombing also came on the one-year anniversary of Osama bin Laden's call for Pakistani Muslims to unleash jihad or holy war against the government, a vital ally in the US-led "war on terror" that has cracked down on militants.
The brazen attack appeared to have been timed to inflict maximum casualties, ripping through the hotel when it was packed with families having dinner to break the daily fast in the Muslim holy month of Ramadan.
"It has the hallmarks of Al-Qaeda," a senior official involved in the investigation told AFP. "It was an Al-Qaeda style bombing."
The official said investigators believe up to 600 kilos (1,300 pounds) of explosives were packed into the truck, which exploded in a giant fireball at the security gate and tore an enormous crater in the ground.
The blast ignited gas cylinders in the kitchen, setting off a blaze that swept through the 300-room hotel. A security official said some victims leapt to their deaths rather than be burnt alive on the upper floors.
Pieces of human flesh were still scattered outside the hotel on Sunday morning. The intense heat inside kept rescuers, who were wearing masks and chemical protection suits, from getting inside most of the destroyed building.
A senior security official said at least 60 people were dead. The government put the confirmed toll at 41, and it was not known how many people might still be unaccounted for.
Bodies pulled from the debris were burnt beyond recognition.
The bombing is a serious challenge to new President Asif Ali Zardari, who faces a desperate battle against Al-Qaeda and Taliban militants whose campaign of violence has killed 1,300 people in Pakistan this year.
"We will rid the country of this cancer," Zardari, who took office less than two weeks ago, said in a message to the nation after the attack. "I appeal to all democratic forces to come and save Pakistan."
But analysts say the ability to carry out such a massive bombing at one of the most secure sites in the capital, not far from parliament and the prime minister's residence, is an unmistakable sign of the militants' reach.
Zardari's predecessor Pervez Musharraf turned Pakistan into a close ally of the United States after the September 11 attacks in 2001, and the government has waged a crackdown on militants in Pakistan's volatile northwest.
That campaign has drawn the ire of many in Pakistan, the world's only nuclear-armed Islamic nation, and critics say elements of the army and intelligence services are supporting the militants.
Many militants poured into the northwest tribal areas from across the border in Afghanistan when the United States invaded after 9/11, and much of the region is now effectively outside the Pakistani government's control.
The administration of US President George W. Bush says militants are using the area as a base of operations to lead the deadly insurgency in Afghanistan, and US forces have fired missiles and even raided the region.
But even Zardari has warned that US operations on Pakistani soil are unacceptable. The perceived violation of sovereignty, and the Pakistan army's campaign against militants, have infuriated many Pakistanis.
Exactly one year ago on September 20, Bin Laden called on Muslims in Pakistan "to carry out jihad and fighting to remove (Musharraf), his government, his army and those who help him".
Zardari will meet Bush in New York this week for the first time since taking over the presidency. Bush, along with leaders from around the world, denounced the latest bombing.
"This attack is a reminder of the ongoing threat faced by Pakistan, the United States and all those who stand against violent extremism," he said.
UN Secretary General Ban Ki-moon said: "No cause can justify the indiscriminate targeting of civilians."
ISLAMABAD (AFP) Rescue teams on Sunday continued the hunt for survivors in the ruins of Islamabad's Marriott Hotel, where a massive truck bomb killed at least 60 people including the Czech ambassador to Pakistan.
The Czech foreign ministry confirmed that Ambassador Ivo Zdarek had been killed in the blast, without giving further details.
Earlier, embassy officials told AFP that Zdarek called his embassy from inside the hotel moments after the explosion asking to be rescued, but had not been heard from since.
Czech media reports said police had pulled the diplomat's body from the smouldering ruins.
Around 200 people were wounded in the suicide attack on Saturday night in the heart of the capital, which came just hours after Pakistan's new president gave his inaugural address to parliament and vowed to stamp out terrorism.
The bombing also came on the one-year anniversary of Osama bin Laden's call for Pakistani Muslims to unleash jihad or holy war against the government, a vital ally in the US-led "war on terror" that has cracked down on militants.
The brazen attack appeared to have been timed to inflict maximum casualties, ripping through the hotel when it was packed with families having dinner to break the daily fast in the Muslim holy month of Ramadan.
"It has the hallmarks of Al-Qaeda," a senior official involved in the investigation told AFP. "It was an Al-Qaeda style bombing."
The official said investigators believe up to 600 kilos (1,300 pounds) of explosives were packed into the truck, which exploded in a giant fireball at the security gate and tore an enormous crater in the ground.
The blast ignited gas cylinders in the kitchen, setting off a blaze that swept through the 300-room hotel. A security official said some victims leapt to their deaths rather than be burnt alive on the upper floors.
Pieces of human flesh were still scattered outside the hotel on Sunday morning. The intense heat inside kept rescuers, who were wearing masks and chemical protection suits, from getting inside most of the destroyed building.
A senior security official said at least 60 people were dead. The government put the confirmed toll at 41, and it was not known how many people might still be unaccounted for.
Bodies pulled from the debris were burnt beyond recognition.
The bombing is a serious challenge to new President Asif Ali Zardari, who faces a desperate battle against Al-Qaeda and Taliban militants whose campaign of violence has killed 1,300 people in Pakistan this year.
"We will rid the country of this cancer," Zardari, who took office less than two weeks ago, said in a message to the nation after the attack. "I appeal to all democratic forces to come and save Pakistan."
But analysts say the ability to carry out such a massive bombing at one of the most secure sites in the capital, not far from parliament and the prime minister's residence, is an unmistakable sign of the militants' reach.
Zardari's predecessor Pervez Musharraf turned Pakistan into a close ally of the United States after the September 11 attacks in 2001, and the government has waged a crackdown on militants in Pakistan's volatile northwest.
That campaign has drawn the ire of many in Pakistan, the world's only nuclear-armed Islamic nation, and critics say elements of the army and intelligence services are supporting the militants.
Many militants poured into the northwest tribal areas from across the border in Afghanistan when the United States invaded after 9/11, and much of the region is now effectively outside the Pakistani government's control.
The administration of US President George W. Bush says militants are using the area as a base of operations to lead the deadly insurgency in Afghanistan, and US forces have fired missiles and even raided the region.
But even Zardari has warned that US operations on Pakistani soil are unacceptable. The perceived violation of sovereignty, and the Pakistan army's campaign against militants, have infuriated many Pakistanis.
Exactly one year ago on September 20, Bin Laden called on Muslims in Pakistan "to carry out jihad and fighting to remove (Musharraf), his government, his army and those who help him".
Zardari will meet Bush in New York this week for the first time since taking over the presidency. Bush, along with leaders from around the world, denounced the latest bombing.
"This attack is a reminder of the ongoing threat faced by Pakistan, the United States and all those who stand against violent extremism," he said.
UN Secretary General Ban Ki-moon said: "No cause can justify the indiscriminate targeting of civilians."
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Al Qaeda link suspected in Islamabad blast, 60 dead
ISLAMABAD: Rescue teams hunted for survivors on Sunday in the ruins of Islamabad’s Marriott Hotel, where a massive truck bomb killed at least 60 people in what officials said looked like the work of Al-Qaeda.
Around 200 more were wounded in the suicide attack on Saturday night in the heart of the capital, which came just hours after President Zardari gave his inaugural address to parliament and vowed to stamp out terrorism.
The brazen attack appeared to have been timed to inflict maximum casualties, ripping through the hotel when it was packed with families having dinner to break fast.
‘It has the hallmarks of Al-Qaeda,’ a senior official involved in the investigation told AFP. ‘It was an Al-Qaeda style bombing.’
The official said investigators believe up to 600 kilos (1,300 pounds) of explosives were packed into the truck, which exploded in a giant fireball at the security gate and tore an enormous crater in the ground.
The blast ignited gas cylinders in the kitchen, setting off a blaze that swept through the 300-room hotel. A security official said some victims leapt to their deaths rather than be burnt alive on the upper floors.
Pieces of human flesh were still scattered outside the hotel on Sunday morning. The intense heat inside kept rescuers, who were wearing masks and chemical protection suits, from getting inside most of the destroyed building.
A senior security official said at least 60 people were dead. The government put the confirmed toll at 41, and it was not known how many people might still be unaccounted for.
Bodies pulled from the debris were burnt beyond recognition.
The Czech ambassador to Pakistan was also killed at the hotel, which was popular with politicians, foreigners and the Pakistani elite. The embassy said he had telephoned from inside the burning hotel on Saturday night.
Analysts say the ability to carry out such a massive bombing at one of the most secure sites in the capital, not far from parliament and the prime minister’s residence, is an unmistakable sign of the militants’ reach.
ISLAMABAD: Rescue teams hunted for survivors on Sunday in the ruins of Islamabad’s Marriott Hotel, where a massive truck bomb killed at least 60 people in what officials said looked like the work of Al-Qaeda.
Around 200 more were wounded in the suicide attack on Saturday night in the heart of the capital, which came just hours after President Zardari gave his inaugural address to parliament and vowed to stamp out terrorism.
The brazen attack appeared to have been timed to inflict maximum casualties, ripping through the hotel when it was packed with families having dinner to break fast.
‘It has the hallmarks of Al-Qaeda,’ a senior official involved in the investigation told AFP. ‘It was an Al-Qaeda style bombing.’
The official said investigators believe up to 600 kilos (1,300 pounds) of explosives were packed into the truck, which exploded in a giant fireball at the security gate and tore an enormous crater in the ground.
The blast ignited gas cylinders in the kitchen, setting off a blaze that swept through the 300-room hotel. A security official said some victims leapt to their deaths rather than be burnt alive on the upper floors.
Pieces of human flesh were still scattered outside the hotel on Sunday morning. The intense heat inside kept rescuers, who were wearing masks and chemical protection suits, from getting inside most of the destroyed building.
A senior security official said at least 60 people were dead. The government put the confirmed toll at 41, and it was not known how many people might still be unaccounted for.
Bodies pulled from the debris were burnt beyond recognition.
The Czech ambassador to Pakistan was also killed at the hotel, which was popular with politicians, foreigners and the Pakistani elite. The embassy said he had telephoned from inside the burning hotel on Saturday night.
Analysts say the ability to carry out such a massive bombing at one of the most secure sites in the capital, not far from parliament and the prime minister’s residence, is an unmistakable sign of the militants’ reach.
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Well in India the firecrackers are planned by Indian army and Indian governement to gain world attention and to get node for going all out against Muslims in India and to quash Kashmir struggle.
AS far as Kabul blast well it was not bad on part of India just to scarifice two or so officials to gain international attention which you guys got afterall.
AS far as Kabul blast well it was not bad on part of India just to scarifice two or so officials to gain international attention which you guys got afterall.
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India never supported terrorism? How would you descrive those Tamil terrorists that are either supported by India (where do you think they get their ideology/weapons from). The tamils blow up politicians and use women to do that... And how come no one thought about real democracy in Kashmir? Or what about those brave Indian soldiers that imagine killings, shoot innoncent or commit suicide? Indian wants to become dominate power and that automaticly makes its a terrorist nation...
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And on top of that India warns Sri Lanka against buying weapons from Pakistan and China to fight against LTTE terrorists.
While on the other hand it refuses to sell weapons to SL which can be used against LTTE.
in other words well India is still supporting LTTE terrorists.
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yes agree with you
actually india to want to be part of the war against muslims club and accusing pakistan and get benefits if there is a war between us and pakistan
when happend the self created 9/11 indian lobby was to first attack pakistan and india offerd it,s airbases along the border but us choosed first to attack afghanistan beacause of it,s strategic location
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yes India did her share of Mistake and realised it fast .. they came out of it .. we all do mistakes .. but only smart people accept it and take steps not to repeat it ..
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and where is your freedom of expression and democracy in KASHMIR
where your are killing peacfull protersters
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lol jana its not off topic ..
well as I said before .. your definition of secularism and democracy is yours .. we Indians don't accept it so lets Pakistan follow your views and then we will see ..
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and where is your freedom of expression and democracy in KASHMIR
where your are killing peacfull protersters
yes it was there in kasmir till it had secular society .. the time. it turned into an fundamental society and maimed poor Hindues from kasmir vally .. it failed .
Democracy and Freedom of Expression is choosen because they serve "humanity" .. so Humanity is the ultimate goal ..
so if i see your logic .. we shall not "fight" for justice because Fighting is not good ..
but we do fight for Justice ..
inhuman and fundamental societies dont deserve these golden systems ..
same way as balochistan dont get freedom of expression ..
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