ISIS using weapons made in Israel

[Penguin]

Hi,

It is not the same---a state may get weapons from whomsoever---but when a terrorist organization has weapons of a certain state in abundance---there is a problem.

"Iraqi volunteer forces, known as Hashid Shaabi, discovered Israeli-made weapons at Islamic State (ISIL) positions in the Iraqi province of Anbar on Thursday, according to Al-Mayadeen television, Fars News Agency reported."
Source: https://defence.pk/threads/isis-using-weapons-made-in-israel.386913/#ixzz4JQP4rkUs



Weapons found on the battlefield ("ISIL positions") can come from anywhere. They could be captured from a direct opponent on that battlefield (captured arms caches), they could have been purchased on the black market (stolen elsewhere). You just don't know.

The article doesn't state what weapons from Israel were found. The picture show M16 rifles, which aren't identifiably Israeli. The M16 is the most commonly manufactured 5.56×45mm rifle in the world. Currently, the M16 is in use by 15 NATO countries and more than 80 countries worldwide. Together, numerous companies in the United States, Canada, and China have produced more than 8,000,000 rifles of all variants. Approximately 90% are still in operation.


Also shown is a picture of a mortar round with packing material in the background: nothing on that identifies it as 'made in Israel'. This is that pic the round from the article.

These are Czech. Could you tell?

Below is one of 5,700 60mm mortar rounds from a ship carrying a large shipment of weapons (including rockets, mortar shells and anti-tank weapons) from Iran that was captured by the Israeli Navy.

If I hadn't written that information, would you have been able to tell the origin of the round?
http://www.terrorism-info.org.il/en/article/18190

Here's a bigger one (for more detail). Look at it closely. Does it remind you of a certain round?

http://mfa.gov.il/MFA/ForeignPolicy/Terrorism/Palestinian/Pages/Proof_Iranian_arms_smuggling_to_terrorists_Nov 2009.aspx

How the Israeli's determined Iranian involvement with the above shipment was by the large number of AZ111-A2 fuses found on board. These fuses are manufactured solely by the Iranian armament industries and were found affixed to the 9,000 60mm, 81mm and 120mm mortar bombs which were concealed in the shipment. This is listed on the box (but unless you know what to look for, you wouldn't know)

NOW LOOK CLOSELY AT THE PIC OF THE ARTICLE AGAIN, ESP. AT THE PACKAGING IN THE BACKGROUND... 3rd line from the top.

 

[MastanKhan]

"Iraqi volunteer forces, known as Hashid Shaabi, discovered Israeli-made weapons at Islamic State (ISIL) positions in the Iraqi province of Anbar on Thursday, according to Al-Mayadeen television, Fars News Agency reported."
Source: https://defence.pk/threads/isis-using-weapons-made-in-israel.386913/#ixzz4JQP4rkUs



Weapons found on the battlefield ("ISIL positions") can come from anywhere. They could be captured from a direct opponent on that battlefield (captured arms caches), they could have been purchased on the black market (stolen elsewhere). You just don't know.

The article doesn't state what weapons from Israel were found. The picture show M16 rifles, which aren't identifiably Israeli. The M16 is the most commonly manufactured 5.56×45mm rifle in the world. Currently, the M16 is in use by 15 NATO countries and more than 80 countries worldwide. Together, numerous companies in the United States, Canada, and China have produced more than 8,000,000 rifles of all variants. Approximately 90% are still in operation.


Also shown is a picture of a mortar round with packing material in the background: nothing on that identifies it as 'made in Israel'. This is that pic the round from the article.

These are Czech. Could you tell?

Below is one of 5,700 60mm mortar rounds from a ship carrying a large shipment of weapons (including rockets, mortar shells and anti-tank weapons) from Iran that was captured by the Israeli Navy.

If I hadn't written that information, would you have been able to tell the origin of the round?
http://www.terrorism-info.org.il/en/article/18190

Here's a bigger one (for more detail). Look at it closely. Does it remind you of a certain round?

http://mfa.gov.il/MFA/ForeignPolicy/Terrorism/Palestinian/Pages/Proof_Iranian_arms_smuggling_to_terrorists_Nov 2009.aspx

How the Israeli's determined Iranian involvement with the above shipment was by the large number of AZ111-A2 fuses found on board. These fuses are manufactured solely by the Iranian armament industries and were found affixed to the 9,000 60mm, 81mm and 120mm mortar bombs which were concealed in the shipment. This is listed on the box (but unless you know what to look for, you wouldn't know)

NOW LOOK CLOSELY AT THE PIC OF THE ARTICLE AGAIN, ESP. AT THE PACKAGING IN THE BACKGROUND... 3rd line from the top.

Hi,

Iran is a known supplier to terr organizations---and if for some reason israeli weapons are found in abundance---that would mean that they are in the game as well.

 

[Penguin]

Where are the pics of Galil, Uzi, Tavor, Negev or Jericho small arms? Any M16s from Israel would be made in US.

M-16 Manufacturers

• Colt's Manufacturing Company (USA)
  
• Daewoo Precision Industries (South Korea)
  
• FN Herstal (Belgium)
  
• H&R Firearms (USA)
  
• General Motors Hydramatic Division (USA)
  
• Elisco (USA)
  
• U.S. Ordnance (USA)

Please inform how could you tell if the M16 in the picture (or any) were from Israel?


And, yes @MashtanKhan, the mortar grenade in the pic from the article has a AZ111-A2 fuze according to the packing box and is therefor Iranian made. The production date is 2013. Last I checked Iran and ISIL aren't friendly (so surely Iran didn't deliver them to ISIL, and ISIL got their hands on it in some other way > which can also happen with Israeli arms, if any found).

 

[VCheng]

Hi,

Clever replies will only get you so far---.

Indeed 9/11 was not staged by the agency or the fbi---but they did let it happen by not doing enough to stop it.

What took you so long, Sir?

What you have said above is as abhorrent as claiming that the ISI allowed the APS attack to happen by not doing enough to stop it. Which it did not. And neither did the CIA.

 

[MastanKhan]

What took you so long, Sir?

What you have said above is as abhorrent as claiming that the ISI allowed the APS attack to happen by not doing enough to stop it. Which it did not. And neither did the CIA.

Hi,

By listening to the statements made by the parents of the deceased---parents were paying Rs500 a month for each child for security being provided by ex military or military.

Now as for ISI---they had already warned the locals of a comiong attack---.

OTOH---neither the agency and nor the bureau got out of their red tape behaviour---on whatever grounds---.

So---your comparison is not correct---but deceptively flawed.

ISI circulated their memos of terr activites to all related agencies and officials----the agency and the bureau never gave out any warning to any other agency on the front line.

Basically the school took the money for the protection and used it wherever it wanted it to.

 

[Imran Khan]

you can buy anything from black market

 

[MastanKhan]

Where are the pics of Galil, Uzi, Tavor, Negev or Jericho small arms? Any M16s from Israel would be made in US.

M-16 Manufacturers

• Colt's Manufacturing Company
• Daewoo Precision Industries
• FN Herstal
• H&R Firearms
• General Motors Hydramatic Division
• Elisco
• U.S. Ordnance

How could you tell if the M16 in the picture were from Israel?


And, yes @MashtanKhan, the mortar grenade in the pic from the article has a AZ111-A2 fuze according to the packing box and is therefor Iranian made. The production date is 2013. Last I checked Iran and ISIL aren't friendly.

Hi,

So---who said ISIL and iranians were friendly!

 

[Götterdämmerung]

ISIS = Israeli Secret Intelligence Service

 

[~Phoenix~]

Why doesn't ISIS/AQ or whatever never attack Israel?
The simplest answer : "A dog never bites its own tail"

 

[Penguin]

Why doesn't ISIS/AQ or whatever never attack Israel?
The simplest answer : "A dog never bites its own tail"

Explanations exist; they have existed for all time; there is always a well-known solution to every human problem — neat, plausible, and wrong.
H. L. Mencken
Did you pay attention above?

"Why ISIS Fears Israel"

Op-Ed, The National Interest
August 8, 2016
Author: Graham Allison, Director, Belfer Center for Science and International Affairs, Harvard Kennedy School
http://belfercenter.ksg.harvard.edu/publication/26873/why_isis_fears_israel.html

Todenhöfer explains why Israel is not attacked by ISIS
Posted on December 31, 2015
https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=nl&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=nl&ie=UTF-8&u=https://ejbron.wordpress.com/2015/12/31/todenhofer-legt-uit-daarom-wordt-israel-niet-door-isis-aangevallen/&edit-text=

ISIS Reveal Why They Never Target Israel
Posted on September 2, 2016
http://yournewswire.com/isis-reveal-why-they-never-target-israel/

 

[Vassnti]

Why doesn't ISIS/AQ or whatever never attack Israel?
The simplest answer : "A dog never bites its own tail"

there are 196 countries in the world only 20 have been attacked by isis
by your logic that leaves 176 countries that are to blame for isis

 

[~Phoenix~]

@Penguin Why didn't they fear France or the so called strongest country in the world aka United States of America?

there are 196 countries in the world only 20 have been attacked by isis
by your logic that leaves 176 countries that are to blame for isis

Well,the place ( illegally ) occupied by Israel is just next to Syria..And Iraq is soo frikin close...If weapon supplies for Hamas can enter,then why not ISIS?

 

[DavidSling]

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4852215,00.html
Five Israeli-Arabs sentenced for trying to join ISIS
From today

More articles
http://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/.premium-1.690738
Five Israeli Arabs Arrested for Trying to Set Up ISIS Cell in Nazareth

http://www.ncregister.com/daily-new...ror-strike-on-vatican-israeli-embassy-in-rome
Arrests Foil ISIS Terror Strike on Vatican, Israeli Embassy in Rome

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...d-50-Egyptian-soldiers-brutal-dawn-raids.html
ISIS carries out rocket attacks on Israel: Two Grad missiles are fired from Egypt's Sinai Peninsula just days after jihadis killed 50 Egyptian soldiers in brutal dawn raids

 

[~Phoenix~]

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4852215,00.html
Five Israeli-Arabs sentenced for trying to join ISIS
From today

More articles
http://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/.premium-1.690738
Five Israeli Arabs Arrested for Trying to Set Up ISIS Cell in Nazareth

http://www.ncregister.com/daily-new...ror-strike-on-vatican-israeli-embassy-in-rome
Arrests Foil ISIS Terror Strike on Vatican, Israeli Embassy in Rome

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...d-50-Egyptian-soldiers-brutal-dawn-raids.html
ISIS carries out rocket attacks on Israel: Two Grad missiles are fired from Egypt's Sinai Peninsula just days after jihadis killed 50 Egyptian soldiers in brutal dawn raids

Oh,looks like Israelis are volunteering to join ISIS...

 

[DavidSling]

Oh,looks like Israelis are volunteering to join ISIS...

Arab Israelies, since you know, Muslims are like 20% of our population