ISI vs NDS which is more powerful? Pak defence depends, 80% on Power/traning of NDS not on JF-17

[Genghis khan1]

Stupid troll thread by an Indian. NDS are gang of stupid Hashish smokers. 80% of them don't even have any college education, no intelligence background. NDS have no equipment no funding other what what ISAF countries contribute voluntary.

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[SSGcommandoPAK]

I beg to differ, if ISI was so powerful as claimed, Pakistan wouldn't have been burning since 2001 and there wouldn't have been a need for an operation like zarb-e-azb. If they were efficient enough, the terrorists wouldn't have dug in so deeply inside Pakistan in the first place.

And what does Raw have to say about all these groups operating in India , killing Indian soldiers on daily bases !

• Communist Party of India (Maoist)
• Harkat-ul-Mujahideen
• Hizbul Mujahideen
• International Sikh Youth Federation
• Jaish-e-Mohammed
• Indian Mujahideen
• Khalistan Commando Force
• Khalistan Zindabad Force
• Lashkar-e-Taiba
• Maoist Communist Party of Manipur
• National Socialist Council of Nagaland -
• Students Islamic Movement of India
• United Jihad Council
• United Liberation Front of Assam

You guys are also burning no need to smile + you guys have more separatist movements in your country than any other country in Asia + no toilets .

 

[Moonlight]

I beg to differ, if ISI was so powerful as claimed, Pakistan wouldn't have been burning since 2001 and there wouldn't have been a need for an operation like zarb-e-azb. If they were efficient enough, the terrorists wouldn't have dug in so deeply inside Pakistan in the first place.

The main problem is Pakistan is surrounded by some evil minded neighbors.
Before questioning ISI, don't forget about all those 100s of time they keep us safe. In 100s of plan if their one plan works out, that doesn't mean ISI is non-professional.
And you talked about Zarb e Azb, you should know the reason of this operation. It was not started because of failure of ISI.

 

[dadeechi]

And what does Raw have to say about all these groups operating in India , killing Indian soldiers on daily bases !

• Communist Party of India (Maoist)
• Harkat-ul-Mujahideen
• Hizbul Mujahideen
• International Sikh Youth Federation
• Jaish-e-Mohammed
• Indian Mujahideen
• Khalistan Commando Force
• Khalistan Zindabad Force
• Lashkar-e-Taiba
• Maoist Communist Party of Manipur
• National Socialist Council of Nagaland -
• Students Islamic Movement of India
• United Jihad Council
• United Liberation Front of Assam

You guys are also burning no need to smile .

All of these have ISI as the common link.

ISI is much ahead in this game and a cut above the rest.

Truly remarkable how they achieve all these with meagre resources.

 

[SSGcommandoPAK]

All of these have ISI as the common link.

ISI is much ahead in this game and a cut above the rest.

Truly remarkable how they achieve all these with meagre resources.

Itne tareefein ISI ke ? Apke Raw bhe kam nahi hai beragarkh kardia Balochsitan ka !

 

[Mrc]

Why is there a dolphin jumping out of sea??

 

[X-2.]

How powerful the National Directorate of Security (NDS) is?
Why NDS is so powerful in region after ISI??

The security situation of Pak is completely depend on the working capacity and strength of NDS.

Where does the NDS power lies against Pak?
Is NDS really worthy Spy Agency? As ISI used to point them out for attacks inside PAk. It seems mildly obvious that NDS can execute attack/plan any time in Pak causes NDS have very strong network in South Asia.
Afghan nationals (probably also works for NDS and CIA) Pestuns/ Norrhen alliance tribe people (Sunni Tajik-dominated,the Sunni Uzbek and Turkmen-dominated, t he Shia Tajik and Hazara-dominate, the Shia Hazara-dominated) lived across world, they are in DUBAI , USA and Europe.
DO sending back Afghan Immigrants solve the issue? It will not as NDS can send people to do attack from across the boarder.

For example take the case of Quetta attack where army are doing operayion since 20 yaers even though NDS did the Hospital blast in presence of ISI and army in Baluchistan and Quetta


It seems NDS is 3rd most powerful Agency in South Asia after ISI, RAW . They have best spy Books /Equipment/training facilities and NATO standard books

Spying has been around since the dawn of civilisation. Keith Laidler

laved.

Isi picking up nds rats every week or two.they get into rat cage by jf 17 naswar
Problem wd isi is its inter services intelligence
Isi did all there best to get the Pakistan get into track otherwise it was war on Pakistan before imposing on Afghanistan
we are proud to have agency like isi , isi do there job and disappear wdout highlighting on media

Exactly ISI is the most powerful organization in the world today. Even CIA & Mossad are a distant second.

Comparing ISI with NDS is akin to comparing a tiger to a domestic cat.

Thnx

I am not bluffing,isi is proxy war with cia mossad KGB mi5 ,raw nds and rest ponies
Comparison wd nds is disrespect for isi
Sacrifices of isi are un pay able
Few I know and I can't control my emotions man
Long live isi and there folks ,may u live long

 

[Asian.Century]

Better compare RAW to NDS even match....ISI is the best agency of the world.

 

[livingdead]

All of these have ISI as the common link.

ISI is much ahead in this game and a cut above the rest.

Truly remarkable how they achieve all these with meagre resources.

lol.. not sure serious or trolling.. the sikh and kashmiri groups got help from isi... there is zero link between isi and maoists...
others are all homegrown 100 percent desi... nothing to do with isi...

 

[dadeechi]

lol.. not sure serious or trolling.. the sikh and kashmiri groups got help from isi... there is zero link between isi and maoists...
others are all homegrown 100 percent desi... nothing to do with isi...

RAW to monitor ISI alliance with maoists

ABHINANDAN MISHRA New Delhi | 11th Oct 2014


The Ministry of Home Affairs has asked the external spy agency, Research and Analysis Wing (RAW) to provide its expertise to local intelligence units and the state police to monitor and control the "alliance" between Pakistan's Inter Services Intelligence (ISI) and India's Maoist groups.

In a meeting of senior intelligence and RAW officers in the second week of September, the topic of Maoists getting support from foreign organisations, including the ISI came up, say sources in the ministry. After this it was decided that the RAW should be assigned with the larger responsibility of dealing with the Maoists, who were described by former Prime Minister Manmohan Singh as the "gravest internal threat" to the country.

"The ISI has a long history of instigating and propping up anti-India groups. We had prior information that the Maoists were hobnobbing with jihadi elements. But interactions between the Maoists and groups supported by the ISI have increased of late. The ministry is dealing with the situation and we have already asked the local Superintendents of Police to keep their eyes open", a ministry official said.

Officials said that the first indication that the ISI was helping the Maoists came in 2009 when a fake currency racket, which was operating from Dubai, was busted. Later, one of the men whose arrest revealed information about the network, told the police that a Dubai-based group, at the behest of the ISI, was financing the Maoists. "He was arrested with Rs 25 lakh, which was supposed to be given to a Maoist sympathiser. He also said that the ISI tried to get in touch with Maoist leaders through a Lashkar-e-Taiba operative," an official said.

Sources stated that they had definite leads that the ISI was now using members of the banned Students' Islamic Movement of India (SIMI) to help the Maoists. "Using SIMI's strong network, arms and ammunition are reaching the Maoists," the official added.

As per a recent intelligence input, SIMI members were also helping the Maoists in Bengal. "We are keeping a watch on West Bengal, with local inputs suggesting increased activity among the SIMI elements and Maoist sympathisers," the official said.

In October 2012, the then West Bengal Director General of Police (DGP) Naparajit Mukherjee, had informed that Ministry of Home Affairs that the Maoists were working with the ISI. In the meeting that was chaired by the then Home Secretary R.K. Singh and attended by the DGPs of other states, Mukherjee had set the alarm bells ringing by saying that the SIMI was helping the Maoists in Bengal.


http://www.sunday-guardian.com/news/raw-to-monitor-isi-alliance-with-maoists

 

[Zibago]

That is because Pakistan Army & ISI have been playing the game of good cop bad cop.

The retired army people like Mirza Aslam Beg & Hamid Gul still controlled the ISI's Taliban policy after the 9/11 while Musharraf handled the official line to deflect the pressure from US.

Operations like zarb-e-azb were never meant to be against Taliban. They were to suppress the dissents & revolts Pakistan faced in Baluchistan, Sind and other provinces. Ever wondered why there was no such operation in Punjab?

http://dunyanews.tv/en/Pakistan/290877-CTD-personnel-gun-down-LeJ-chief-Malik-Ishaq-two-

 

[illusion8]

D!ck measuring again.

If true, NDS needs to pull up its socks...talibani are running rough shod all over Afghanistan. ..A few assassinations in the neighborhood, a few fatal accidents, a few regime upheavals would diminish the support that talibani get.