ISI gave Rs 5 lakh to man who beheaded Indian soldier

[OrionHunter]

Oh the Indian media

And oh the Pak media, what with the great defense 'analyst' Zaid Hamid in great demand for his 'analyses'!!

And he's lapped up by the Pak media as if there's going to be no tomorrow!! Jeeez!! The Liddell Hart and Rommel of Pakistan!! This twit is seen almost daily on some channel or the other for they love to hear his theories on Gazwa-e-Hind and his rants on having breakfast at the Red Fort in Delhi after hoisting the Pakistani flag there! And that gentlemen, is music to the ears of most Pakistanis!! Carry on....

 

[Rafael]

And oh the Pak media, what with the great defense 'analyst' Zaid Hamid in great demand for his 'analyses'!!

And he's lapped up by the Pak media as if there's going to be no tomorrow!! Jeeez!! The Liddell Hart and Rommel of Pakistan!! This twit is seen almost daily on some channel or the other for they love to hear his theories on Gazwa-e-Hind and his rants on having breakfast at the Red Fort in Delhi after hoisting the Pakistani flag there! And that gentlemen, is music to the ears of most Pakistanis!! Carry on....

What have you been smoking Orion ? Did the mighty GREY took you on their spaceship recently?

 

[KRAIT]

Oh the Indian media

Indian media just caught a mine kingpin who was main accused of $ 745 million dollar scam in just 3 days.

Indian media especially good media channels are very effective. You should watch few channels and you will know how active and good is Indian media regarding national issues. Way much better than Pakistani Media.

It was Barkha Dutt who found out about beheading of Pakistani soldier and published it. Can your media do same thing regarding PA and ISI ? They turn up dead.

India media may be over nationalistic but but a great medium of protest against wrong policies and highlights wrong done to people and by people.

For 3 days, Indian Rape issue is on discussion where all Pakistani posters said that LOC incident was diversionary tactics. No diversion has occurred. That's how much better is Indian Media.

Indian media don't use words like Hindu Baniya, Munh main ram ram, bagal main churi. It doesn't target particular caste, religion etc. I can go on and on about how better is Indian media corresponding to other nations' media.

When Quetta blasts happened, Pakistani channels were busy in imported Cleric. They just made few news at 5 or 6 slot.

Of course few channels are bad. There are bad apples in every community. India TV is one of them.

Pakistani media should learn from Indian media and Pakistani posters should watch how Indian media covers national issues.

 

[Azazel]

Sir we are concerned about Islam and Muslims where ever they are they are our brothers and when they will be killed or hurt we will respond back Sir because that is order of ALLAH and his RASOOL SAW so we don't permission from any one else we already have the permission and this news of ISI giving 5 lakhs ISI have better things to do than giving money on incident which is even false and propaganda from Indian Army and media

Why such hypocrisy @Zarvan,Why no takers for your brothers in Balochistan,Tribal areas and Karachi.They are getting killed there every day in sectarian and ethnic clashes.We Indians can take care of our Muslim brothers.You just take care of yours.

 

[haviZsultan]

The muslim league did not had a great influence on the entire muslims of india except bihar , up and some areas of deccan (hydrabad) which led to the division .and that was the reason majority of the muslims did not migrate to pakistan and decided to stay back in india which was a wise decison ,

Its just your perception that indian muslims have any kinda affections towards pakistan but to be honest non of us care about pakistan . there will be exceptional cases who share families in both the countries .

Your loyalty to India is none of my concern. Even relatives in India are loyal to it and loyalty is divided. You might see some religious people in your own family loyal to Pakistan or old people too. Don't deny it. Its a truth we all know, I can name a number of uncles who are loyal and a number who aren't. It doesn't affect me one bit anymore as it did once except when they say something along the lines of ISI did so and so.

Let me explain to you with logic what you are doing wrong and how you are committing a crime to Indian muslims. You know that these people use the ISI angle to frame innocent people, the last article had every proof in it. Afzal Guru case is a clear one. Now what happens if they pick you up tomorrow and say you were responsible or are an ISI agent? I mean this does nothing beneficial for Muslims in India because ISI is a card being used to frame you guys but you are so gullible you are perpetuating the same thing. Should I be thinking about that or you?

It is not the Pakistanis job to defend the Muslims but they do it out of concern and get nothing in return. In my case I do it out of family links and loyalty to the Ansari clan and Firangi Mahal house. This ISI did so and so to please the others coming from a Muslim is very depressing. It means you are killing the rights of my own and your own family members left there. Also you do not want to count my words, your own Indian muslim (loyal guy to India) and a cousin said "we shouldn't blame ISI, we all know that in the name of ISI how many innocent Muslim youth are picked up?" Do you think about this?

Do consider this. Also I would like to explain there was even a family from Madras we moved with no link to Pakistan whatsoever. They are now loyal citizens of Pakistan. I worked with the Sufferers Witness-repatriation wing. We dealt with families from Kashmir mainly.

The moment something goes wrong the government comes for you. The moment something goes wrong you go to Pakistan and we have received families after Gujarat and other things. We moved a little late too and my mother is pure Lucknowi-lived there all her life and came after marriage. My father too-his ancestral area is Kakori-and our kakori kabab are famous. So there is a bond between us you cannot deny. Don't throw it away to please others. I won't challenge your loyalty to India since I am trying to integrate Hindus in Pakistan so they do not say the same things a lot of people we moved from Hyderabad said.

But apply this logic, please. Its no wonder our Ansars left there have no rights.

 

[Rafael]

Indian media just caught a mine kingpin who was main accused of $ 745 million dollar scam in just 3 days.

Indian media especially good media channels are very effective. You should watch few channels and you will know how active and good is Indian media regarding national issues. Way much better than Pakistani Media.

It was Barkha Dutt who found out about beheading of Pakistani soldier and published it. Can your media do same thing regarding PA and ISI ? They turn up dead.

India media may be over nationalistic but but a great medium of protest against wrong policies and highlights wrong done to people and by people.

For 3 days, Indian Rape issue is on discussion where all Pakistani posters said that LOC incident was diversionary tactics. No diversion has occurred. That's how much better is Indian Media.

Indian media don't use words like Hindu Baniya, Munh main ram ram, bagal main churi. It doesn't target particular caste, religion etc. I can go on and on about how better is Indian media corresponding to other nations' media.

When Quetta blasts happened, Pakistani channels were busy in imported Cleric. They just made few news at 5 or 6 slot.

Of course few channels are bad. There are bad apples in every community. India TV is one of them.

Pakistani media should learn from Indian media and Pakistani posters should watch how Indian media covers national issues.

Ignoring all that what you have said, you need to watch Pakistani media a little more carefully. Pakistani media discusses matters of national security like nobody else does and mostly go overboard criticizing the army and intelligence agencies.

 

[haviZsultan]

By support what do you expect from Indian Muslim's . I am from UP not every Muslim in UP are having relatives in Pakistan. Why they will have sympathy towards a Muslim in Pakistan. Please dont drag concept of Ummah here, you better know how practically it is failed.

You of all people know I have no loyalty to the Ummah. I am a secular person who believes in the rights of all. My loyalty to Ansaris is the cause of this defense.

 

[nair]

Indian media just caught a mine kingpin who was main accused of $ 745 million dollar scam in just 3 days.

Indian media especially good media channels are very effective. You should watch few channels and you will know how active and good is Indian media regarding national issues. Way much better than Pakistani Media.

It was Barkha Dutt who found out about beheading of Pakistani soldier and published it. Can your media do same thing regarding PA and ISI ? They turn up dead.

India media may be over nationalistic but but a great medium of protest against wrong policies and highlights wrong done to people and by people.

For 3 days, Indian Rape issue is on discussion where all Pakistani posters said that LOC incident was diversionary tactics. No diversion has occurred. That's how much better is Indian Media.

Indian media don't use words like Hindu Baniya, Munh main ram ram, bagal main churi. It doesn't target particular caste, religion etc. I can go on and on about how better is Indian media corresponding to other nations' media.

When Quetta blasts happened, Pakistani channels were busy in imported Cleric. They just made few news at 5 or 6 slot.

Of course few channels are bad. There are bad apples in every community. India TV is one of them.

Pakistani media should learn from Indian media and Pakistani posters should watch how Indian media covers national issues.

The problem with pakistani posters opinion on indian media....... they look indian media on the issues related to pakistan and india...... and they judge the media based on it and make their opinion..... on issues related to pakistan india and the mood in the country..... obviously the indian media reporting will not to be the liking of pakistanis..... But if they happens to see how indian media takes up other issues related to national issues or social issues i am sure they will have a different perception...

 

[haviZsultan]

By support what do you expect from Indian Muslim's . I am from UP not every Muslim in UP are having relatives in Pakistan. Why they will have sympathy towards a Muslim in Pakistan. Please dont drag concept of Ummah here, you better know how practically it is failed.

I do not believe in the ummah and believe in secular ideals. My defence is of Ansaris. Some of the younger Indian Muslims do not realize the true value of our much-needed support. It is their failure. I will continue taking interest however in matters pertaining to or directly affecting Ansaris. There is no proof of this story whatsoever.

Ignoring all that what you have said, you need to watch Pakistani media a little more carefully. Pakistani media discusses matters of national security like nobody else does and mostly go overboard criticizing the army and intelligence agencies.

I have been to Lucknow and other regions and was there during Samjhauta-he has never been to Pakistan but he knows Pakistani media. Its amazing. I have seen Indian media hype up things. Their media will never say anything negative about India ever. Our media is extremely objective. I am a journalist and know dawn has a policy of no submissions on India from author in Pakistan.

Pakistani media has never kept national interests at heart. Even now the same criticism of the army is taking place.

 

[Bang Galore]

Ignoring all that what you have said, you need to watch Pakistani media a little more carefully. Pakistani media discusses matters of national security like nobody else does and mostly go overboard criticizing the army and intelligence agencies.

Not an unfair comment.

 

[nair]

I do not believe in the ummah and believe in secular ideals. My defence is of Ansaris. Some of the younger Indian Muslims do not realize the true value of our much-needed support. It is their failure. I will continue taking interest however in matters pertaining to or directly affecting Ansaris. There is no proof of this story whatsoever.



I have been to Lucknow and other regions and was there during Samjhauta-he has never been to Pakistan but he knows Pakistani media. Its amazing. I have seen Indian media hype up things. Their media will never say anything negative about India ever. Our media is extremely objective. I am a journalist and know dawn has a policy of no submissions on India from author in Pakistan.

Pakistani media has never kept national interests at heart. Even now the same criticism of the army is taking place.

Your post look sensible..... but on the bolded part you have gone wrong..... Thats your perception....... I dono which channel or media you saw when you were in india...... but let me tell you.... Indian media criticise anything and everything comes in their part..... ( Only one bad thing about our media is....... TRP )

 

[OrionHunter]

But apply this logic, please. Its no wonder our Ansars left there have no rights.

Really? That's news to me. Are you aware that the Vice President of India, Mohammad Hamid Ansari is an Ansar like you?

 

[STEELMAN]

Really? That's news to me. Are you aware that the Vice President of India, Mohammad Hamid Ansari is an Ansar like you?

And MUKHTAR ANSARI mafiya of UP is cousin brother of him.

 

[haviZsultan]

Really? That's news to me. Are you aware that the Vice President of India, Mohammad Hamid Ansari is an Ansar like you?

Exactly, especially Ansars of Firangi Mahal house are the most secular family. At our nana's darbar Sikhs and Hindus once sat and still somehow these Ansari people are framed as terrorists:

AHMEDABAD: A special CBI court on Thursday framed charges against Aftab Ansari in connection with a 2001 incident of smuggling arms and ammunition in the country. However, the court has not held him accused of spreading terror or waging war against the nation.

Aftab Alam Ansari of Kolkata who was incarcerated for the court blast was found innocent and released while Sajjadur Rahman of Kashmir has also been exonerated of any role in the Lucknow blast case.

Zabiuddin ansari, fahim ansari... there has to be some ingenuity when framing Muslims on false terror charges. Man you don't know how big this is. Ansaris are the most secular people today. You yourself explained it. I know how they framed Ansaris in Hyderabad.

 

[Musalman]

500,000 is too high for an Indian. Should have given that guy a "chuwani" Bloody Indian liars.

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