Is there any thing common between Balochistan and Kashmir??

[Dubious]

Ayush Pandey is probably the nicest Indian on this forum. Be nice to him please.

I was face palming the reply not his personality...

The only thing common is we need to nuke India, even if we are killed in response

Another face palm...How does that have anything to do with anything?

 

[truthseer]

Another face palm...How does that have anything to do with anything?

The common evil in them, RAW and Mossad/KFC backed evil

 

[Dubious]

The common evil in them, RAW and Mossad/KFC backed evil

Common evil is that which resides in Pakistanis!

THEY will never do any favour for their own people

THEY will always want higher pay

THEY forget to appreciate

THEY love to split between Baloch, Pathan, Saraiki, Sindhi, Punjabi...They rarely call themselves Pakistani

THEY have less tolerance

All these criteria are manipulated and used against them to cause disturbance prob by RAW and MOSSAD but HAD they not developed these diseases they wouldn't go to that push!

 

[SBD-3]

there are similarities between Kashmir and baluchistan(only kalat)

Both were princely states.

Kashmir raja acceded Kashmir to India
kan of kalat were forced to accede to Pakistan.
on both territories there is a population which wants independence.

Pakistan recognise aspirations of Kashmiries and ignores the same in baluchistan.

Of which, to date, not a single authentic instrument of accession has ever been produced by India. Get your facts and history correct before commenting.

 

[Agnostic_Indian]

Of which, to date, not a single authentic instrument of accession has ever been produced by India. Get your facts and history correct before commenting.

Perhaps you should do what you advice.





File:Kashmir-Accession-Document-b.jpg - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
File:Kashmir-Accession-Document-a.jpg - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The Kashmir sagaBhashyam KasturiThe Instrument of Accession now available on the Home Ministry's website gives us a glimpse of the original documentTHE UNION Ministry of Home Affairs has done a great service to the nation and to the world by making available on its website the entire original text of the Instrument of Accession signed by Maharaja Hari Singh of Jammu and Kashmir on October 26, 1947. This document, long thought to be lost, has generated considerable controversy among historians and others alike.The Instrument of Accession now available on the MHA website gives us a glimpse of the original document as it was signed by the other 550 odd princely states of British India and lets us see Hari Singh's signature. It is not as though the actual document was not available with the government of India. Since 1947, it has been with the government and later it was transferred to the National Archives where it rests in a file with other documents relating to Jammu and Kashmir's accession.Alastair Lamb's claimIt is sad that it took the Centre so long to put out this document on public display, for scholars like Alastair Lamb had already done the damage by claiming that the document did not exist and even if it did, Hari Singh may have never signed it. More damaging for India, Lamb claimed that even if Hari Singh did sign any such document, it was done after the first landing of Indian troops at Srinagar on October 27, 1947.The document that Hari Singh signed makes it clear that he offered accession on October 26, 1947 and that it was accepted by the then Governor General of India, Louis Mountbatten, the next day. Now that the Instrument of Accession has been made available, it remains to be suggested to the MHA that it should put out all the documents available on Jammu and Kashmir on the Internet.The broad outline of how and when Hari Singh signed the Instrument of Accession has been clear for some time now. As Prem Shankar Jha states in his book, Hari Singh was persuaded by V.P. Menon to sign the Instrument of Accession on the night of October 25/early morning of October 26, 1947. Menon also persuaded Hari Singh to leave Srinagar for Jammu, given the threat from the tribal raiders from Pakistan, which he did at around 2 a.m.After driving almost non-stop, the Maharaja's entourage reached Jammu palace probably around lunchtime on October 26. There they waited for news from Delhi about the request for assistance. V.P. Menon did not come as his flight to Jammu was put off due to bad weather that afternoon. But he had already handed over the Instrument of Accession to Lord Mountbatten on October 26 at the meeting of the Defence Committee of the Cabinet.The other document that is available at many sources is a letter written by Hari Singh to Mountbatten, also dated October 26, 1947. Actually, while the Maharaja had signed the Instrument of Accession, he had not agreed to bring in Sheikh Abdullah to head the emergency administration. To persuade Hari Singh to get Sheikh Abdullah in, Menon went to Jammu on October 27, soon after the first Indian troops were in, and got the Maharaja to append his signature to a letter dated October 26 and datelined "The Palace, Jammu." This letter, probably written originally on October 24-25 had to be redrafted to include at the end the paragraph about Sheikh Abdullah's inclusion in government. This Menon took back to Delhi on the October 27 and then in the evening handed both the Instrument and the Letter offering Accession to Mountbatten to Jawaharlal Nehru.Thus the princely state of Jammu and Kashmir acceded to India. And now thanks to some bright bureaucrat in the Home Ministry we are able to see the original document signed by Hari Singh.Printer friendly*page***Send this article to Friends by*E-Mail
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[Bhai Zakir]

Is there any thing common between Balochistan and Kashmir??

Ans. = Yes (Innocent Muslims are dieing due to evil anti India forces)

 

[SBD-3]

Perhaps you should do what you advice.





File:Kashmir-Accession-Document-b.jpg - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
File:Kashmir-Accession-Document-a.jpg - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The Kashmir sagaBhashyam KasturiThe Instrument of Accession now available on the Home Ministry's website gives us a glimpse of the original documentTHE UNION Ministry of Home Affairs has done a great service to the nation and to the world by making available on its website the entire original text of the Instrument of Accession signed by Maharaja Hari Singh of Jammu and Kashmir on October 26, 1947. This document, long thought to be lost, has generated considerable controversy among historians and others alike.The Instrument of Accession now available on the MHA website gives us a glimpse of the original document as it was signed by the other 550 odd princely states of British India and lets us see Hari Singh's signature. It is not as though the actual document was not available with the government of India. Since 1947, it has been with the government and later it was transferred to the National Archives where it rests in a file with other documents relating to Jammu and Kashmir's accession.Alastair Lamb's claimIt is sad that it took the Centre so long to put out this document on public display, for scholars like Alastair Lamb had already done the damage by claiming that the document did not exist and even if it did, Hari Singh may have never signed it. More damaging for India, Lamb claimed that even if Hari Singh did sign any such document, it was done after the first landing of Indian troops at Srinagar on October 27, 1947.The document that Hari Singh signed makes it clear that he offered accession on October 26, 1947 and that it was accepted by the then Governor General of India, Louis Mountbatten, the next day. Now that the Instrument of Accession has been made available, it remains to be suggested to the MHA that it should put out all the documents available on Jammu and Kashmir on the Internet.The broad outline of how and when Hari Singh signed the Instrument of Accession has been clear for some time now. As Prem Shankar Jha states in his book, Hari Singh was persuaded by V.P. Menon to sign the Instrument of Accession on the night of October 25/early morning of October 26, 1947. Menon also persuaded Hari Singh to leave Srinagar for Jammu, given the threat from the tribal raiders from Pakistan, which he did at around 2 a.m.After driving almost non-stop, the Maharaja's entourage reached Jammu palace probably around lunchtime on October 26. There they waited for news from Delhi about the request for assistance. V.P. Menon did not come as his flight to Jammu was put off due to bad weather that afternoon. But he had already handed over the Instrument of Accession to Lord Mountbatten on October 26 at the meeting of the Defence Committee of the Cabinet.The other document that is available at many sources is a letter written by Hari Singh to Mountbatten, also dated October 26, 1947. Actually, while the Maharaja had signed the Instrument of Accession, he had not agreed to bring in Sheikh Abdullah to head the emergency administration. To persuade Hari Singh to get Sheikh Abdullah in, Menon went to Jammu on October 27, soon after the first Indian troops were in, and got the Maharaja to append his signature to a letter dated October 26 and datelined "The Palace, Jammu." This letter, probably written originally on October 24-25 had to be redrafted to include at the end the paragraph about Sheikh Abdullah's inclusion in government. This Menon took back to Delhi on the October 27 and then in the evening handed both the Instrument and the Letter offering Accession to Mountbatten to Jawaharlal Nehru.Thus the princely state of Jammu and Kashmir acceded to India. And now thanks to some bright bureaucrat in the Home Ministry we are able to see the original document signed by Hari Singh.Printer friendly*page***Send this article to Friends by*E-Mail
The Hindu : Open Page : The Kashmir saga

A document with no official seal of Governor General whatsoever, type written on simple piece of paper. With no signatures whatsoever,no official stamp or anything? Why do you guys pull out such stunts, at least you could use some photoshop to make it smell more realistic. And whats more astonishing is that some idiot in Hindu wrote a whole thing on this....! It happens only in.........????

 

[zootinali]

The only thing common is we need to nuke India, even if we are killed in response

¨Too bad there is no smiley for face palm! Seriously needed here!¨-Talon

 

[batmannow]

ya,but disputed doesnt mean it belongs to pakistan.

same thn its not indian too, plz check dictionry what it means?

 

[Agnostic_Indian]

A document with no official seal of Governor General whatsoever, type written on simple piece of paper. With no signatures whatsoever,no official stamp or anything? Why do you guys pull out such stunts, at least you could use some photoshop to make it smell more realistic. And whats more astonishing is that some idiot in Hindu wrote a whole thing on this....! It happens only in.........????

ok..I presented j&k instrument of accession which is de classified by govt of India..and now your argument is that it it's not fancy enough for you ? btw you can clearly see the signature of raja and governor general..and that is enough. perhaps you should check why there is no seal in instrument of accession of kalat state.


reality is both princely state's rulers signed instrument of accession but khan of kalath was forced to do so.


both sides there is struggle for freedom, so if you recognise freedom struggle in Kashmir then you should also recognise the freedom struggle happening in baluch..and stop your hypocrisy..otherwise all you show/write is just like crocodile tears.

 

[batmannow]

ok..I presented j&k instrument of accession which is de classified by govt of India..and now your argument is that it it's not fancy enough for you ? btw you can clearly see the signature of raja and governor general..and that is enough. perhaps you should check why there is no seal in instrument of accession of kalat state.


reality is both princely state's rulers signed instrument of accession but khan of kalath was forced to do so.


both sides there is struggle for freedom, so if you recognise freedom struggle in Kashmir then you should also recognise the freedom struggle happening in baluch..and stop your hypocrisy..and crocodile tears.

& NAGGALAND ???

 

[Agnostic_Indian]

& NAGGALAND ???

you can open a new thread.

 

[Ayush]

same thn its not indian too, plz check dictionry what it means?

ya,but with the present situation we are in a win-win situation.we have majority of kashmir's land,population etc.
and we have the ethnic kashmiris on our sides only.so kashmir is ours.

 

[SBD-3]

ok..I presented j&k instrument of accession which is de classified by govt of India..and now your argument is that it it's not fancy enough for you ? btw you can clearly see the signature of raja and governor general..and that is enough. perhaps you should check why there is no seal in instrument of accession of kalat state.

And how sure can you be that those signature were done by maharaja. Why do you require stamp for your attestation and not merely signature. Why do you use official stamp papers? I means stupidity is another thing, but defending a stupid act by a greater stupid argument is another thing.

 

[Dubious]

¨Too bad there is no smiley for face palm! Seriously needed here!¨-Talon

Yea People take NUKE even lighter than S. Korea!