Is the Lahore Metrobus a folly or far-sighted?

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[aks18]

yes i did but ur pea size mind couldnt able to understand

ISLAMABAD: None other than the World Bank has severely opposed the government’s proposal to grant first-usage right to the province producing electricity, arguing the policy does not make sense for an integrated power system, reveal official documents available with The News.

“The bank also expressed its opinion that the policy will most likely be economically inefficient since it will preclude the trade of power across the provinces,” the documents state. The government is planning to introduce amendments in the power policy 2002 and to this effect, the committee, headed by Secretary Water and Power Imtiaz Kazi and comprising four secretaries of the provinces, has finalised the amendments, including this critical proposal that based on the location of the power plant, the electricity requirements of the province or local area be given priority. In case the said amendment is approved by the CCI, the electricity crisis will touch a new high in the Punjab, which generates only 30 percent electricity but consumes 60 percent. Surprisingly, however, the Punjab representative in the committee did not oppose the move when the committee finalised this recommendation. While the Punjab maintained a mystifying silence over the proposed amendment, the World Bank has opposed the said amendment.

It is pertinent to mention that under the 18th Amendment, there is a clause in the Constitution under which the gas deficit has become the highest in the Punjab as compared to other provinces. Under the said clause, the province producing gas has the fist right to consume it and the remainder is to be passed on to such federating unit where gas is not abundantly available. This is the main reason that the Punjab is facing a massive gas deficit leading to a massive surge in unemployment as many industrial units have virtually closed down in the wake of non-availability of gas. If the CCI approves the recommended proposal, the Punjab will be exposed to ever more power outages.

Under another proposal that has also been finalised by the committee, the Water Use Charge (WUC) will also be increased to Rs0.425 per unit without annual indexation. The WUC will be reviewed every five years in order to determine whether an increase in the WUC is necessary. In this case, the World Bank has said that the every five years, the WUC review must not be left open ended. Farooq Energy Company has opposed this proposal saying that an increase in WUC is a pass-through item and would lead to higher average hydro tariff.

The committee has also decided that carbon credits earned through clean energy projects from the UN will be utilised for project maintenance and welfare of affected people on an equal basis. The World Bank said that the recommendation should be consistent with the mechanism to share carbon revenues as explained in the government policy for the development of renewable energy 2006.

Power producing province to get priority: govt - thenews.com.pk


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[hassan346]

ISLAMABAD: None other than the World Bank has severely opposed the government’s proposal to grant first-usage right to the province producing electricity, arguing the policy does not make sense for an integrated power system, reveal official documents available with The News.

“The bank also expressed its opinion that the policy will most likely be economically inefficient since it will preclude the trade of power across the provinces,” the documents state. The government is planning to introduce amendments in the power policy 2002 and to this effect, the committee, headed by Secretary Water and Power Imtiaz Kazi and comprising four secretaries of the provinces, has finalised the amendments, including this critical proposal that based on the location of the power plant, the electricity requirements of the province or local area be given priority. In case the said amendment is approved by the CCI, the electricity crisis will touch a new high in the Punjab, which generates only 30 percent electricity but consumes 60 percent. Surprisingly, however, the Punjab representative in the committee did not oppose the move when the committee finalised this recommendation. While the Punjab maintained a mystifying silence over the proposed amendment, the World Bank has opposed the said amendment.

It is pertinent to mention that under the 18th Amendment, there is a clause in the Constitution under which the gas deficit has become the highest in the Punjab as compared to other provinces. Under the said clause, the province producing gas has the fist right to consume it and the remainder is to be passed on to such federating unit where gas is not abundantly available. This is the main reason that the Punjab is facing a massive gas deficit leading to a massive surge in unemployment as many industrial units have virtually closed down in the wake of non-availability of gas. If the CCI approves the recommended proposal, the Punjab will be exposed to ever more power outages.

Under another proposal that has also been finalised by the committee, the Water Use Charge (WUC) will also be increased to Rs0.425 per unit without annual indexation. The WUC will be reviewed every five years in order to determine whether an increase in the WUC is necessary. In this case, the World Bank has said that the every five years, the WUC review must not be left open ended. Farooq Energy Company has opposed this proposal saying that an increase in WUC is a pass-through item and would lead to higher average hydro tariff.

The committee has also decided that carbon credits earned through clean energy projects from the UN will be utilised for project maintenance and welfare of affected people on an equal basis. The World Bank said that the recommendation should be consistent with the mechanism to share carbon revenues as explained in the government policy for the development of renewable energy 2006.

Power producing province to get priority: govt - thenews.com.pk


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The 18th constitutional amendment has further complicated constitutional issues and bottlenecks between the provinces and the center with respect to energy sector instead of reducing them and needs to be revisited to help resolve the energy crisis.

This seemed to be the finding of a seminar titled “18th Constitutional Amendment: Implications for Energy Sector” held at the Institute of Policy Studies (IPS), Islamabad, which was addressed by Mirza Hamid Hassan, former secretary water & power and chairman IPS Tawanai Program; Muhammad Arif advocate, president Energy Lawyers’ Association, Pakistan; Barrister Saadia Abbasi, member IPS National Academic Council and former senator; Ameena Sohail advocate, senior IPS associate and coordinator of its Tawanai Program; and DG-IPS Khalid Rahma

Barrister Saadia Abbasi said that for any positive change in the situation a long term planning with coordinated approach is inevitable.Unless a policy is made with the consultation of all stakeholders and with the confidence of consistency despite change in the government, it cannot be expected to bring any good news”, she said.

She was of the opinion that despite the fact that the provinces had been given the power to generate electricity on their own, they could not actually do it due to number of bottlenecks including lack of expertise, resources, inability to provide sovereign guarantees to solicit international funding and above all a national coordination plan.

Ameena Sohail advocate presented the pre and post 18th amendment scenarios with respect to power sector and highlighted that it was a misconception that this amendment has given freedom to provinces to generate electricity while they were restricted from doing so prior to it. She said that actually the power to construct power houses and grid stations, lay transmission *lines, levy taxes or draw distribution preferences were with the provinces before 18th amendment and remained with them even after it.

“What 18th amendment has merely done is the reassurance that the federal government shall not take a decision to construct a hydro-electric power station in any province without consultation of the provincial government concerned”, she underlined.The real conflict that has arisen was actually been created by moving electricity to the federal list after abolition of concurrent list in result of which provinces, though empowered to generate and distribute energy, find it difficult to execute their plans.

Mirza Hamid Hassan concluded the session with the observation that there was need to revisit the 18th amendment and take all the stakeholders and experts on board.

He said that the dichotomy of jurisdiction to legislate and power to execute has been further enhanced by 18th amendment which is creating host of issues ultimately affecting the masses and national development.

 

[hassan346]

this not the case if that was it how come south punjab has less load shedding then central punjab where ppphold is strong there is less load shedding .. blochistan is producing major share of natural gas but u can observe load shedding of both natural gas and electricity and when u go to quetta its totally a diff story if u go to islamabad federal capital there is no load shedding at all even in lahore u see paf or if u go to askari complex there is very less load shedding only becoz ppl from arm forces live there

 

[aks18]

this not the case if that was it how come south punjab has less load shedding then central punjab where ppphold is strong there is less load shedding .. blochistan is producing major share of natural gas but u can observe load shedding of both natural gas and electricity and when u go to quetta its totally a diff story if u go to islamabad federal capital there is no load shedding at all even in lahore u see paf or if u go to askari complex there is very less load shedding only becoz ppl from arm forces live there

Again Same bull Sh*t of words i didnt got my answer

 

[hassan346]

Again Same bull Sh*t of words i didnt got my answer

The 18th constitutional amendment has further complicated constitutional issues and bottlenecks between the provinces and the center with respect to energy sector instead of reducing them and needs to be revisited to help resolve the energy crisis.

This seemed to be the finding of a seminar titled “18th Constitutional Amendment: Implications for Energy Sector” held at the Institute of Policy Studies (IPS), Islamabad, which was addressed by Mirza Hamid Hassan, former secretary water & power and chairman IPS Tawanai Program; Muhammad Arif advocate, president Energy Lawyers’ Association, Pakistan; Barrister Saadia Abbasi, member IPS National Academic Council and former senator; Ameena Sohail advocate, senior IPS associate and coordinator of its Tawanai Program; and DG-IPS Khalid Rahma

Barrister Saadia Abbasi said that for any positive change in the situation a long term planning with coordinated approach is inevitable.Unless a policy is made with the consultation of all stakeholders and with the confidence of consistency despite change in the government, it cannot be expected to bring any good news”, she said.

She was of the opinion that despite the fact that the provinces had been given the power to generate electricity on their own, they could not actually do it due to number of bottlenecks including lack of expertise, resources, inability to provide sovereign guarantees to solicit international funding and above all a national coordination plan.

Ameena Sohail advocate presented the pre and post 18th amendment scenarios with respect to power sector and highlighted that it was a misconception that this amendment has given freedom to provinces to generate electricity while they were restricted from doing so prior to it. She said that actually the power to construct power houses and grid stations, lay transmission *lines, levy taxes or draw distribution preferences were with the provinces before 18th amendment and remained with them even after it.

“What 18th amendment has merely done is the reassurance that the federal government shall not take a decision to construct a hydro-electric power station in any province without consultation of the provincial government concerned”, she underlined.The real conflict that has arisen was actually been created by moving electricity to the federal list after abolition of concurrent list in result of which provinces, though empowered to generate and distribute energy, find it difficult to execute their plans.

Mirza Hamid Hassan concluded the session with the observation that there was need to revisit the 18th amendment and take all the stakeholders and experts on board.

He said that the dichotomy of jurisdiction to legislate and power to execute has been further enhanced by 18th amendment which is creating host of issues ultimately affecting the masses and national development

Source: http://www.defence.pk/forums/econom...trobus-folly-far-sighted-6.html#ixzz2Rp55jcp5

 

[aks18]

The 18th constitutional amendment has further complicated constitutional issues and bottlenecks between the provinces and the center with respect to energy sector instead of reducing them and needs to be revisited to help resolve the energy crisis.

This seemed to be the finding of a seminar titled “18th Constitutional Amendment: Implications for Energy Sector” held at the Institute of Policy Studies (IPS), Islamabad, which was addressed by Mirza Hamid Hassan, former secretary water & power and chairman IPS Tawanai Program; Muhammad Arif advocate, president Energy Lawyers’ Association, Pakistan; Barrister Saadia Abbasi, member IPS National Academic Council and former senator; Ameena Sohail advocate, senior IPS associate and coordinator of its Tawanai Program; and DG-IPS Khalid Rahma

Barrister Saadia Abbasi said that for any positive change in the situation a long term planning with coordinated approach is inevitable.Unless a policy is made with the consultation of all stakeholders and with the confidence of consistency despite change in the government, it cannot be expected to bring any good news”, she said.

She was of the opinion that despite the fact that the provinces had been given the power to generate electricity on their own, they could not actually do it due to number of bottlenecks including lack of expertise, resources, inability to provide sovereign guarantees to solicit international funding and above all a national coordination plan.

Ameena Sohail advocate presented the pre and post 18th amendment scenarios with respect to power sector and highlighted that it was a misconception that this amendment has given freedom to provinces to generate electricity while they were restricted from doing so prior to it. She said that actually the power to construct power houses and grid stations, lay transmission *lines, levy taxes or draw distribution preferences were with the provinces before 18th amendment and remained with them even after it.

“What 18th amendment has merely done is the reassurance that the federal government shall not take a decision to construct a hydro-electric power station in any province without consultation of the provincial government concerned”, she underlined.The real conflict that has arisen was actually been created by moving electricity to the federal list after abolition of concurrent list in result of which provinces, though empowered to generate and distribute energy, find it difficult to execute their plans.

Mirza Hamid Hassan concluded the session with the observation that there was need to revisit the 18th amendment and take all the stakeholders and experts on board.

He said that the dichotomy of jurisdiction to legislate and power to execute has been further enhanced by 18th amendment which is creating host of issues ultimately affecting the masses and national development

Source: http://www.defence.pk/forums/econom...trobus-folly-far-sighted-6.html#ixzz2Rp55jcp5

Why PML N kept Silent over power distribution issue when they were aware of draw backs it gona bring for punjab ??? even world bank pointed out answer my question dude again you bringing long long stories :S

 

[Menace2Society]

Spend half a billion dollars on cleaning the city, creating well placed new commercial zones and advertising on foreign channels and watch the investment pour in. Repeat this with every other major city in the country and we will be on right track.

A new bus will not solve our problems. Our streets are dirty and uninviting, lets clean up and do some business. May 11th cannot come soon enough, hurry up Imran.

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

May 11 already .. ek ek din slow guzar raha hai