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I have been trying to write a blog for quite some time now. I first felt like writing when Pakistan was under the scrutiny of International media, and Abbotabad was on every news Channel, be it Urdu, Hindi, English or even languages I didn’t even know existed. “OBL killed in a Call of Duty kind of operation in a Million Dollar mansion.”


I was even compelled to write when a huge massacre was taking place in Burma, heart-shattering videos surfaced on Internet, the sincerity in the tears of First Lady of Turkey, But Alas! Emotions were hard to pen.


Today, I am penning my thoughts, not as a Pakistani, not even as a Muslim, but as a Human, as a member of this society we so proudly call “Global Village.” With the Surfacing of the new trailer or the movie, “Innocence of Muslims,” Sam Bacile (the Producer) has stirred a new International unrest. Funny, how the actions of one mentally challenged person in California, makes people all over the world come out in the streets, some global village this is!


After watching so many edited photos and posts on my Facebook, and then following all the international media show unrest all over the world, I finally surfed the trailer and saw it for my self. To say it the least, I was shocked, not at, as much as the trailer but at the thinking behind the movie. Every script of every scene has some hidden meaning, sometimes to teach the audience, some times thought provoking while other time simply to share the writer’s views. This movie does not seem based on any kinds of facts, and it seems after reading from the synopsis that the main ‘mens-rea’ or the ‘intent’ of the movie is probably to hurt the feeling over a billion Muslims all over the world.


This is not the first time the sentimental feelings of the Muslims were hurt, and I’m sure this isn’t the last time. What they consider as the “Freedom of speech,” we consider Blasphemous. I was extremely impressed by Imran Khan’s co-relation of the Holocaust and Freedom of Speech. Why is it that I can Burn American Flag in USA, call all the religious leaders by names and even burn religious scriptures under the pretext of freedom of speech. But when it comes to the reality of Holocaust, I am not allowed to speak. I may not be given any attention; just writing this blog might even get me killed.


Discussing such an issue is of sentimental nature to the Jews, so they get hurt. Their feelings are damaged. So when we, a billion Muslims scattered over this globe, have sentimental affiliations with out Prophet (PBUH) and will never tolerate a word against him, why can’t it be not considered as freedom of speech.


A came across a lot of criticism, while comparing this incident with that of the killing of six million Jews. But over here, there are a Billion devoted followers of a man, who is being mocked; a billion people are killed emotionally with this movie. Holocaust for me is not a reality, neither a fact, it’s a doctrine, which showed the worst limit, and the deepest pit humanity can touch. Comparing that with this is wrong, because this movie doesn’t only shows the worst limits, but also the worst intentions and thinking. This incident, and the Danish Cartoon incidents before it, is all just part of an Islamic Holocaust, which the Muslims of 21st century are facing. You talk about sic million innocent Jews getting killed, what about the thousands of Muslims killed in Pakistan drone strikes, Kashmir, Afghanistan, Iraq, Bosnia, Palestine. What about the continuous prosecution of Muslims in America where they are not even given the basic liberty rights of a free trial? What about the innocent Muslims who are humiliated at every airport, and other port of entries? What about the bright star, Aafia Siddiqi, who was not given any freedoms of speech or other wise.


When it comes to the Muslims, the freedoms of speech are high and tall like the China wall, it’s reiterated as by latest press release by Hillary Clinton, that the movie is part of the freedom of speech. But when I question holocaust, when I express my ideas, my thoughts, then suddenly it becomes a matter of national interest.


Today there is huge unrest in all major parts of the world due to this incident, it is the intent of the writer that instead of burning building, roads and flags, all Muslims should rather unite and stand up for the movement of the petition that Islamic beliefs and the personnel affiliated to it are no joke. And they are sensitive issues which should be treated accordingly as Holocaust is treated, with no room for freedom of speech in the matter. Let the freedom of speech remain in Guantanamo Bay prisons, and “don’t ask don’t tell” policies of NATO forces!
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I was even compelled to write when a huge massacre was taking place in Burma, heart-shattering videos surfaced on Internet, the sincerity in the tears of First Lady of Turkey, But Alas! Emotions were hard to pen.

Source: http://www.defence.pk/forums/current-events-social-issues/208373-freedom-speech.html#ixzz26oftprin




I am sympathetic to Burmese Muslims, But its there Internal issue, So I won't comment. We all know most of the pics and Video were fake and it was a propaganda. The Numbers are highly exagarrated to spread Islamic fundamentalism.


With the Surfacing of the new trailer or the movie, “Innocence of Muslims,” Sam Bacile (the Producer) has stirred a new International unrest. Funny, how the actions of one mentally challenged person in California, makes people all over the world come out in the streets, some global village this is!

Source: http://www.defence.pk/forums/current-events-social-issues/208373-freedom-speech.html#ixzz26ogVNDb4



Read "First ammendmend of USA constitution". If you Pakistani have problem with that Video, bann it in in ur country. Indian Islamic (*Kongress) govt has already ban it. Americans didn't ban "Da Vinchi code" they won't ban it, No matter how much hue and cry u make. USA is not India.


I think Blogs are not allowed on PDF.
 
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Imran Khan’s co-relation of the Holocaust and Freedom of Speech.



Either IK don't know or he don't want to tell you, Holocaust is banned in Europe to prevent Nazism to come back. It has nothing to do with religiuous belief. same reason swastic is bann in europe.


Some American please ----> is the same ban in USA??? I don't think these things are ban in USA.
 
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Imran Khan’s co-relation of the Holocaust and Freedom of Speech.



Either IK don't know or he don't want to tell you, Holocaust is banned in Europe to prevent Nazism to come back. It has nothing to do with religiuous belief. same reason swastic is bann in europe.


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:angel: stupid notion. as if nazism will be back if holocaust was not banned.

swastic is also a Hindu religious sign so does it bring nazism in India?
 
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What a silly piece.

Why is it that I can Burn American Flag in USA, call all the religious leaders by names and even burn religious scriptures under the pretext of freedom of speech. But when it comes to the reality of Holocaust, I am not allowed to speak. I may not be given any attention; just writing this blog might even get me killed.

Drama queen. Nobody is gonna kill you for that.:lol:

He is corrected by his countrymen accordingly

You're ill-informed. Anyone can deny the holocaust in the United States. Do a casual search on the internet and you will find many sites that deny/denigrate the holocaust.

What a terrible blog post and factually incorrect. In USA you can deny holocaust and plenty do.

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Discussing such an issue is of sentimental nature to the Jews, so they get hurt. Their feelings are damaged.

The Holocaust denial law isn't meant to spare Jewish sentiments. It's meant as a reminder for future generations not to repeat history. Educate yourself.
 
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Freedom should not result in the demise of others. When we intentially hurt others freedom takes a fall from grace. People need to understand that offensive speech only serves to undermine the hateful message.
 
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Imran Khan’s co-relation of the Holocaust and Freedom of Speech.



Either IK don't know or he don't want to tell you, Holocaust is banned in Europe to prevent Nazism to come back. It has nothing to do with religiuous belief. same reason swastic is bann in europe.


Some American please ----> is the same ban in USA??? I don't think these things are ban in USA.
So by the same token why not ban this blasphemy to prevent another 9/11?
 
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Imran Khan’s co-relation of the Holocaust and Freedom of Speech.



Either IK don't know or he don't want to tell you, Holocaust is banned in Europe to prevent Nazism to come back. It has nothing to do with religiuous belief. same reason swastic is bann in europe.


Some American please ----> is the same ban in USA??? I don't think these things are ban in USA.
Its a historical event than why not discuss it why Europe gets so pissed of when some one wants to discuss this incident even if the person apologize still they punish him stop defending West
 
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BTW, Black Widow not Holocaust but its denial is banned in Europe.

Anywaz, though i agree that as the US didnt ban anti-Christian films like "The Zombie Jesus" or "Da Vinci Code", they probably will also not ban this film, so that is justifilabel to an extent.

However, the issue here is that Holocaust and Nazi Symbols have been banned because they remind them of an horrible era and they dont want a repetition of the same.

Mainly it is the way of these countries to tell the modern world that they donot condone those actions, espacially when a number of countires banning Holocaust denial i.e Austria, Germany, Hungary, and Romania were among the perpetrators of the Holocaust.

So, if by your definition the West ban the above to 'prevent' a certain thing from reaccuring, dont you think it would be savvy to do the same in case of the 'evil' Muslims?

i mean, i dont know if you know this or not, but one of the reasons cited by the 9/11 Commissionors in their report for the 9/11 atacks was the US support to Israel (and its killings of Palestinians) and demonization of Muslim (countries). Though, this chapter was expunged from the 9/11 Commission Report later (google why, i could have posted a few videos but YT is banned you know, so you can look fors a YT Channel namely The Represantative Press, and before you say anything, the channel is noy being run by a Mullah, but a Yankee himself).

So, now if greivence among certain Muslims caused 9/11 apart from the other reasons, dont you think there is a need to look into the matter of this constant insults that are thrown upon the Muslims?

You know, if a drone/US soldeir kills an innocent in Pakistan/Afg, or an IA soldiers kills a Kashmiri youth or Fc kills a Balochi, it will most probably result into the creation of a Suicide Bomber, a Stone Pelter and a BLA follower respectively.

So the bottomline is, if they are afraid of Nazism comming back from the Dark Ages, man, they should also be very very afraid of something like 9/11 happening again if they dont put a bar on such stupidity.

Food for thought:

'Innocence Of Muslims' Protests: Al-Qaeda Threatens Attacks On U.S. Diplomats
 
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Discussing such an issue is of sentimental nature to the Jews, so they get hurt. Their feelings are damaged. So when we, a billion Muslims scattered over this globe, have sentimental affiliations with out Prophet (PBUH) and will never tolerate a word against him, why can’t it be not considered as freedom of speech.
Yet just like making fun of islam,making fun of Jews and their religious symbols are allowed by the freedom of speech and is done now and then by the white supremacists and neo nazis.If the author had an iota of common sense,he could have guessed that the laws against denying halocaust have a purpose which does not have anything to do with catering jewish sentiments.
 
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To truly understand the purpose of ...why the West keeps on shamelessly provoking Muslims, by insulting our beloved Prophet (P.B.U.H) knowing it would hurt the Muslims all over, well Allama Iqbal has explained it very well in his poetry. if we could truly understand the essence of this poem..:Not only this..but he explains the sorry state Muslims all over the world are in..today and its causes.. Very insightful poem by Allama Iqbal:

Iblis ka farman apnay siasi farzandon ke naam

La kar barahmanon ko Siyasat ke bich mein
Zun-naariyon ko dair-e-kohan se nikaal do

Woh faaqah-kash keh maut se darta nahi zara
Ruh-e-Muhammad os ke badan se nikaal do


Fikr-e-Arab ko de ke farangi takhai-u-laat
Islam ko Hijaaz-o-Yaman se nikaal do

Afghaniyon ki ghairate deen ka hay yeh elaaj
Mulla ko oon ke koh-o-dman se nikaal do

Ehle haram se oon ki rawayaat chhin lo
Aahu ko marghuzare khutan se nikaal do

Iqbal ke nafas se hay lale ki aag tez
Aise ghazal-sara ko chaman se nikaal do

Translation :
Orders of Satan to his political progeny (English translation: taken from a website)

Embroil the Brahmans in statesmanship’s maze,
Make them discard their girdle, creed and ways.
The mendicant whom death can’t affright, Take
Mohammad’s soul from his mould and expedite.

Dye Arab thought in Frankish fancy’s hue,
From Hejaz and Yaman expel the Muslims true.
The Afghan’s zeal for Faith You can assail
By exiling Muslim priests from hill and dale.
Snatch customs of those, who own Muslim creed,
Banish musk-yielding deer from Cathay’s mead.
My songs in Muslim hearts ignite a flame,
Turn out such singer from park for this blame.
 
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