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dont go there mate.. this ends up with racist posts after a few pages.A butt or dar will look quite different from a bhatti or chema
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dont go there mate.. this ends up with racist posts after a few pages.A butt or dar will look quite different from a bhatti or chema
What its a fact people who migrated from different places look differentdont go there mate.. this ends up with racist posts after a few pages.
come on after centuries of living together, people are mixed up.A butt or dar will look quite different from a bhatti or chema
Centuries?come on after centuries of living together, people are mixed up.
How does Ishaq Dar looks different?
Pakistan is not what it was made for. Pakistan was to be a modern country for not only Muslims but everyone living in it.
What do you know about Islam? Hm? I dont get it why are so many non-muslims entering the discussion when they dont know anything about islam.ISIS.. and taliban govt earlier were true islamic states... you got awful lot of british laws.
Nope my great grandfather was a vegetarian pundit before embracing Islam
Who doesn't? All of our ancestors were non muslims at one point. There, i said it.Interesting. After all all people of BD and PK has Hindu ancestry but very few accept that and that too in public.
Who doesn't? All of our ancestors were non muslims at one point. There, i said it.
WHO??? I am seriously questioning your educational background.Ok but many epople in Pakistan claim Arab Ancestry.
WHO??? I am seriously questioning your educational background.
i dont have to be expert to comment on anything... i left 20 comments in cricket thread.. I dont even watch cricket.. IWhat do you know about Islam? Hm? I dont get it why are so many non-muslims entering the discussion when they dont know anything about islam.
Who are you to decide taliban govt is the true islamic state? What knowledge about islamic shariah and fiqh do you have?
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Sorry to burst your bubble but you believe in a fairy tale idolized version of sahabas. Whenever anyone will try to suggest something you will probably jump and compare it to the "golden" age and say oh that leader is nothing compared to sahaba, oh the people are nothing compared to them.
If you bring hadith, make sure you read Bukhari and Muslim's actual books. You probably came across hadith in related topics instead of reading through them without any relevance to any topic. This will give you a good insight into the actual life during prophets time.
You think life during Ali's time was just? I am sure you get starry eyed imagining it. Well sorry to inform you, but the muslims of that time didn't think it was just, but you probably know better. Muslims revolted against Ali, including many sahabas and even prophets wife Ayesha. During Ali's time Usman's wife's fingers were being displayed in Syria and the killers were not brought to justice. There were wars between muslims.
Stop holding the ummah to unrealistic standards. If you have to go back in history at least have some knowledge instead of fairy tales. I do believe the people during Prophets time were the best of muslims as even Prophet said that this generation is the best, and then the next and then the next. But they were not as they are made out to be. They had their shortcomings, their weaknesses, they made mistakes.
After Prophet came from Taif, wounded and very sad (his wife and uncle had recently passed away), hardest time in his life. He wanted to enter Mecca but he was afraid that he did not have tribal protection anymore and he would be killed. He was unable to get any tribal protection from anyone. It was a non muslim in the end who took responsibility and offered him his tribes protection due to arab chivalry and then the prophet entered.
As the saying goes, Half knowledge is a dangerous thing. I think it properly applies to you.
The Sahaba had a prophet amongst them, we do not. Allah, the exalted, knows that and He will surely compensate our massive shortcomings. So don't mock renaming Pakistan an Islamic Republic just because we are not good muslims. Everything starts with a small step. Pessimists with half knowledge like you will be our downfall.