Is LCA Programme finally dead?

[Falcon26]

The LCA program is the gift that keeps on giving and should not be allowed to die. India should double down and invest more as the continued investment on this program will support India to ultimately master key technologies.

 

[Khan vilatey]

You have 135 JF17 that are next to useless in real combat

Ie no HMS or off boresight missle = dead in a dogfight versis Tejas mig29 mirage or mki all equipped with this

No full quadruplex fbw just single axis only inferior flight control = trying cut cornors

smoking maintenance intensive RD93 engines

only chinese weapons no divirsity with european american or isreali top notch weapons

In simple terms just ike PLAAF the JF17 would be deemed not even adequate as a MIG21 replacement FOR INDIAN AIR FORCE.

Yes your mark 3 improves these number 50 and will take 5 years to arrive

Mav wtf man, none of those things make the jf-17 less lethal. The older block 2 versions are more than capable to take on everything in the IAF inventory especially in mixed aircraft formations. They are deadly in CAC and are a formidable challenge in bvr. Case and point feb27 they were used in A2A as well as strike roles. No losses with successful strike missions

K

 

[The Maverick]

Mav wtf man, none of those things make the jf-17 less lethal. The older block 2 versions are more than capable to take on everything in the IAF inventory especially in mixed aircraft formations. They are deadly in CAC and are a formidable challenge in bvr. Case and point feb27 they were used in A2A as well as strike roles. No losses with successful strike missions

K

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Mav wtf man, none of those things make the jf-17 less lethal. The older block 2 versions are more than capable to take on everything in the IAF inventory especially in mixed aircraft formations. They are deadly in CAC and are a formidable challenge in bvr. Case and point feb27 they were used in A2A as well as strike roles. No losses with successful strike missions

K

They are not deadly in CAC they have no HMD o modern HOBS missles
Ther standard radar on thunder has max range 80km and sd10 barely 70km range

27th Febnruary was about F16 lobbing BVRS from their side of LOC

what did THUNDERS do


CHINEASE DACT missions have their flankers smashing 2 or 3 thunders by single flankers regularly

This is why you are inducting block 3 to overcme the glaring weaknesss in block 1 & 2

 

[Khan vilatey]

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They are not deadly in CAC they have no HMD o modern HOBS missles
Ther standard radar on thunder has max range 80km and sd10 barely 70km range

27th Febnruary was about F16 lobbing BVRS from their side of LOC

what did THUNDERS do


CHINEASE DACT missions have their flankers smashing 2 or 3 thunders by single flankers regularly

This is why you are inducting block 3 to overcme the glaring weaknesss in block 1 & 2
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Dude, that’s not right

KLJ-7 radar stats are 70km for rcs of 3 m 130km for rcs of 5m
sd-10 range 70-100 km

outside of the Rafael most Indian aircraft have rcs in 5m range

pakistan has never had hmd, no western aircraft have them and have always out gunned Russian aircraft case n point iraqi and Syrian mig 29 and mig 21 vs f-16s

HOBS, high off bore missile ..... I thought the Chinese close in missions pl5 or pl something are very effective when compared to sidewinders aim9x or R- something that india flies.

I am not aware of the Chinese dact kills can you elaborate with references. I am aware of the Shaheen series exercises enabled PAF to shoot down the su-30

on the 27th of February jf-17 were used as strike platform and air Defence platforms. They were able to successfully deter action from Indian air squadrons in Indian occupied Kashmir. There effectiveness in both These roles is well documented on this forum

@Imran Khan @The Eagle can you Please help me with references

k

 

[IblinI]

China plaaf can barely deploy 200 fighters in himlayers they have to defend the South China Sea Japan and Russian borders. they have 400 j10 not 600

maverick the fanboy, always like to used past tense on china, pakistan but future tense on Indian.
Unlike your HAL, 6 tejas airframe, CAC is making at least 50 J10 series every year and I m not counting SAC.
@Fighting Falcon 01

 

[GS Zhou]

Unlike your HAL, 6 tejas airframe, CAC is making at least 50 J10 series every year and I m not counting SAC.

The production rate of Tejas is even far shorter than China producing the AEW aircrafts

 

[21st Century Vampire]

KLJ-7 radar stats are 70km for rcs of 3 m 130km for rcs of 5m

Bhai for 5 m2 target it's 105Km up-looking and 85Km down-looking

CHINEASE DACT missions have their flankers smashing 2 or 3 thunders by single flankers regularly

Source?

on the 27th of February jf-17 were used as strike platform and air Defence platforms. They were able to successfully deter action from Indian air squadrons in Indian occupied Kashmir. There effectiveness in both These roles is well documented on this forum

JF-17 Emerged As The Star of Swift Retort

Some new revelations have emerged regarding PAF operation Swift Retort. Albeit, both the kills on 27th February 2019 were achieved by the F-16s engaged in fighter sweep mission but the real star of the whole operation turned out to be the JF-17 Thunder in both the ground strikes and fighter...

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[Fighting Falcon 01]

China plaaf can barely deploy 200 fighters in himlayers they have to defend the South China Sea Japan and Russian borders. they have 400 j10 not 600

paf is mostly junk other than 18 block 52.
it's low end budget Force dated f16 obselet mirages and the new pl15 x 50 planes are 4 years away

India has 5 awacs you forget the indengious awacs not just phalcon

we have much bigger radars better same and far more resources to beat you to a pulp if needed. you won't last 7 days your poor nation

J10C is a much better fighter than your mighty su 30mki AESA and PL 15 both are a big threat to your mighty mini awacs if China deploys 100 J10C in that region then IAF is in trouble what will match the range of PL 15 that too from 100 J10C also s400 is also deployed in that region IAF is in no position to dominate the sky ... you call our airforce old despite using 8 squadrons of mig 21 and alot of other junk...... tejas is in no shape to fight 40+83 were supposed to be ordered we have seen 6 ..... so a 2 front war will be the end of your mighty IAF just because they underestimate china and Pakistan....

 

[The Maverick]

J10C is a much better fighter than your mighty su 30mki AESA and PL 15 both are a big threat to your mighty mini awacs if China deploys 100 J10C in that region then IAF is in trouble what will match the range of PL 15 that too from 100 J10C also s400 is also deployed in that region IAF is in no position to dominate the sky ... you call our airforce old despite using 8 squadrons of mig 21 and alot of other junk...... tejas is in no shape to fight 40+83 were supposed to be ordered we have seen 6 ..... so a 2 front war will be the end of your mighty IAF just because they underestimate china and Pakistan....

the chinease have no combat ready deployed j10c so that point is mute

second why do you bring China Into every indo pak scenarios.

China brought it's best into.ladakh and did nothing

as for pl15

we have meteore and Derby and Astra now .

we have 20 tejas not 6
we have more than enough to handle pakistan any day

 

[Fighting Falcon 01]

the chinease have no combat ready deployed j10c so that point is mute

second why do you bring China Into every indo pak scenarios.

China brought it's best into.ladakh and did nothing

as for pl15

we have meteore and Derby and Astra now .

we have 20 tejas not 6
we have more than enough to handle pakistan any day

Current versions of both derby and astra lack the range of PL 15 meteor can surely match it but there are more J10s than Rafael...... wow you're such a delusional person out of nearly 600 J10s none is combat ready really what are you smoking....... we don't need China to fight you the 27th feb beating proves that .... we have more than enough to handle India any day

 

[The Maverick]

Current versions of both derby and astra lack the range of PL 15 meteor can surely match it but there are more J10s than Rafael...... wow you're such a delusional person out of nearly 600 J10s none is combat ready really what are you smoking....... we don't need China to fight you the 27th feb beating proves that .... we have more than enough to handle India any day

they have 400 j10
the j10 c is only arriving now
and chinease,missle technology cannot compare with Western israeli capability.

what beating on 27th
ridiculous jumping up and down
6 shots by your f16 all missed
pathetic waste of missles due to panic and poor tactic,s when facing mki and mieage2000 .

you shot down a 60 year mig21 big deal

 

[Microsoft]

you shot down a 60 year mig21 big deal

The 60 year mig shot down a 10 year old AMRAAM same thing for the SU-30

 

[IblinI]

they have 400 j10
the j10 c is only arriving now
and chinease,missle technology cannot compare with Western israeli capability.

what beating on 27th
ridiculous jumping up and down
6 shots by your f16 all missed
pathetic waste of missles due to panic and poor tactic,s when facing mki and mieage2000 .

you shot down a 60 year mig21 big deal

J10C has been in pla service since 2015, don't know "arriving now" means 5 years in your dictionary.

 

[Fighting Falcon 01]

they have 400 j10
the j10 c is only arriving now
and chinease,missle technology cannot compare with Western israeli capability.

what beating on 27th
ridiculous jumping up and down
6 shots by your f16 all missed
pathetic waste of missles due to panic and poor tactic,s when facing mki and mieage2000 .

you shot down a 60 year mig21 big deal

China is developing hypersonic weapons supersonic cruise missiles ICBMs air to air missiles and their tech is not good enough really........ I feel sorry for you I wish IAF underestimates PAF and PLAAF just like you I would love to see some fireworks .... they can make 60 J10C in 1 year how many can you make ? Even if they loose some they can replace but can you replace Rafael? Nope you'll have to beg them to deliver them early.....

 

[newb3e]

We do know who chickens out of competitions where Tejas is a participant..

your claim as per Mitrrun news cooperation JeeNewj?