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Is LCA based UCAV possible option for India?

What next? An MMRCA based UCAV (whichever the aircraft is going to be) with "Full ToT" ??

Tejas UCAV is a Ridiculous idea at best! I sincerely hope ADA/HAL do not come up with this as another of their proposals.
 
That's not a UCAV, it's a "target" drone. The word "drone", by default, does not imply the sort of drone you have in mind.

Hello friends,

The news broke out weeks ago that US is developing UCAV version of F-16.

My question is can India develop such UCAV based on LCA?

Your opinions are welcome.
 
Useless LCAs only use would be for target practice as a target drone.
 
I dont get why would you possibly do such a thing. LCA is designed around a human, UAVs aren't, so you can obviously take out many things in the equation.

Something like AURA is what India needs.
 
Just speculating; since this is not really my area of expertise, I'd guess that working from the FLCS maybe the route taken. Again guessing: would that not be the most economic way to work?
Personally...I would go for the stick and rudder pedals.

In a FBW-FLCS, the command-response loop is a closed loop. The cockpit create a command, it goes to the computer who does all the necessary computation from the command itself, accelerometers, gyros, and air data, sends that calculated command to the hydraulics, who complies and send back information on how much they displaced and at what rate they displaced. The FLCS computer then compares those responses against the cockpit command to see if the aircraft responded according to the pilot's wish, then the entire loop starts all over again when the FLCS computer recalculate any over/under response, which usually occurs but is compensated so quickly and fine grain that this continuous loop is never noticed by the pilot. This loop runs from engine start on the ground from take-off to engine stop on landing. If you ever notice the rear horizontal stabs moving up/down while the aircraft is taxiing you are looking at this loop. The uneven runway shakes the aircraft and creates gyros and accelerometers responses and the FLCS computer tries to compensate in leveling out the aircraft as if it is in actual flight.

Now...If I was to tap into the FLCS, I need to create two signals: A command signal and a nullifying signal.

The command signal would be to tell the FLCS computer to execute a maneuver. The nullifying signal would be to tell the computer NOT to compare any responses against a supposedly command signal from the cockpit, of which I just simulated when I tapped into the FLCS computer.

On the other hand, if I tap into the control stick and rudder pedals, I need only one signal and that is to tell the transducers at the stick and rudder pedals that those controls have displaced by a pilot, which we know is not there. The rest of the chain as explained above will perform their roles without being the wiser that there is no one in the cockpit.

Do understand that what I explained is grossly simplified. I do not literally mean one signal but rather a set of signals because this is a quadruple (4) redundant system, from cockpit to hydraulics.

The test flight for the QF-16 had 7g maneuvers. Definitely exceeded expectations. Even more so that these Qs came from Davis-Monthan where they were pulled out of mothballed status and returned to flight. Seven times gravity of flight. Not likely any platform elsewhere in the world can meet, let alone exceed and this would be just another feather in the F-16's cap. So when they are fully certified to be training aids, they will be formidable ACM adversaries for our pilots. The F-16 have so many feathers of firsts and accomplishments that we might as well call it 'The Chief'.
 
HAL does not have the required skills to do this. Not even close.
 
Hello friends,

The news broke out weeks ago that US is developing UCAV version of F-16.

My question is can India develop such UCAV based on LCA?

Your opinions are welcome.

Few things You forget
US already has Numbers of f 16 operational
And They tested it as more of a Target practice for other craft rather then Doing Some action with it
and they are going to spent billions of dollars to upgrade those Old Junk F16 which no one operates so
best bet will be Try on lca
Or indian can start same project with their mig 21 cz china had already done it and tested it
 
What next? An MMRCA based UCAV (whichever the aircraft is going to be) with "Full ToT" ??

Tejas UCAV is a Ridiculous idea at best! I sincerely hope ADA/HAL do not come up with this as another of their proposals.

If India can put Kaveri on trains and boats, why not create LCA based UCAV?
 
What I meant by in development for a long time is that it's behind schedule, at least from what some Indian members have told me. Everything you said I basically agree with.



My point still stands, fanboyism isn't going to get the LCA project done.

well sir we are no fan boys we know we are still lagging behind but at least we are working owr way to top ....we are late for sure but we are geting there thanks for your consrn
 
well sir we are no fan boys we know we are still lagging behind but at least we are working owr way to top ....we are late for sure but we are geting there thanks for your consrn

Oh don't get me wrong, my observation has nothing to do with concern. I could care less if India succeeded or not, I'm simply pointing out what I've noticed.
 
Oh don't get me wrong, my observation has nothing to do with concern. I could care less if India succeeded or not, I'm simply pointing out what I've noticed.

im not blaming yopu either sir im just saying that we are late on the scene but still trying despite being a poor and developing nation with huge curruption and brain drain we are able to have a decent fighter which was first concieved as a point defence interseptor but came owt as a multi role while it is cheapest , smallest & carries reasonablly good amount of ordenence yet is quite maintainable but sure its late but its not waste of time and money as we have learned so many things and so many techs are developed deu to it which are/will be used in many future programs
 
im not blaming yopu either sir im just saying that we are late on the scene but still trying despite being a poor and developing nation with huge curruption and brain drain we are able to have a decent fighter which was first concieved as a point defence interseptor but came owt as a multi role while it is cheapest , smallest & carries reasonablly good amount of ordenence yet is quite maintainable but sure its late but its not waste of time and money as we have learned so many things and so many techs are developed deu to it which are/will be used in many future programs

I never said you were blaming me.

By the way, is your keyboard broken or something? Just curious.
 
I am talking about UCAV not target drone i.e something like predator, Neuron

They were trying out a stealthy LCA design sometime back, picture of which was circling the net. but LCA based UCAV is nota good idea primarily because its aerodynamics are designed for high speed interception, with minimal consideration for radar detectibility where as an UCAV is a strike platform and avoiding radar is top priority.
 
I never said you were blaming me.

By the way, is your keyboard broken or something? Just curious.

no sirji its brand new infact actualli im weak with grammar and spellings since long back but im getting better :cheers:
 

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