Is It Time For Gen. Raheel To Go:----

[MastanKhan]

@MastanKhan
Sir i am speechless.
Mien rooan ya hasoun bolo kiya karoun...Badi mushkil hey...

my elder bro where you get these ideas, a bad sleep is the reason behind. i don't know about N.S but Gen Raheel done tremendous Job against TTP, 80% reduction in attacks but what is happening RAW is far more active than we thought, Modi Govt give free hand to RAW to punish Pakistan for the attacks which was actually a false flag from RAW.
You know how difficult the operation in wazirastan,army have to search inch by inch of very rough and high terrain. criticizing Gen Raheel totaly biased.

Hi,,


I appreciate the respect---but mark my words---. The general's rhetoric has fizzled out. He is doing a job that an ordinary general should have done---and Kiyani was below average.

The military has gone after those who are corrupt and nothing has happened---. You need to understand---time is the enemy of justice---. The state cannot hang in limbo for ever.

When the opportunists are cornered and you do not take care of the problem right away---they will create scenarios to turn your attention away from their problem.

That is where the general has failed.

 

[Spectre]

@MastanKhan
Sir i am speechless.
Mien rooan ya hasoun bolo kiya karoun...Badi mushkil hey...

my elder bro where you get these ideas, a bad sleep is the reason behind. i don't know about N.S but Gen Raheel done tremendous Job against TTP, 80% reduction in attacks but what is happening RAW is far more active than we thought, Modi Govt give free hand to RAW to punish Pakistan for the attacks which was actually a false flag from RAW.
You know how difficult the operation in wazirastan,army have to search inch by inch of very rough and high terrain. criticizing Gen Raheel totaly biased.

wow never knew RAW was so diabolical. Can you provide me the proof behind RAW being responsible for terrorist attack on Indian soil so that we can prosecute all the personnel responsible for first degree homicide and treason and give them the punishment of hanged till dead. I am sure IAF, IA and NSG which lost so many of their brave soldiers wont spare RAW

I would be ever so grateful. If you dont have any evidence then please shut the F up.

How would you like it if I said these Peshawar attacks were false flag by PA/PAF and a ploy to get more F-16s from US sighting security threats?

Regards

 

[Maarkhoor]

Hi,,


I appreciate the respect---but mark my words---. The general's rhetoric has fizzled out. He is doing a job that an ordinary general should have done---and Kiyani was below average.

The military has gone after those who are corrupt and nothing has happened---. You need to understand---time is the enemy of justice---. The state cannot hang in limbo for ever.

When the opportunists are cornered and you do not take care of the problem right away---they will create scenarios to turn your attention away from their problem.

That is where the general has failed.

General is doing what is in his powers otherwise he have to throw elected Govt, He want to take action but the politician cry loud And it is not in the favor of Pakistan to ruled by once again dictator because world is changed even little finance from India against the dictator in Pakistan can create Arab spring like situation and you know US is waiting for that to get the first opportunity to de-nuke Pakistan.
Time is very tough my brother we need to go slow and these type of attacks can happen and should be retaliated in the same way, hit them where they feel pain THE MOST.

 

[Musafir117]

In january 2015 137 civilians died. Lets see by end of this month how many die this month, as of 17th January 15 civilians were killed by terrorists.

Fatalities in Pakistan Region Wise 2016

So this attack is set back but I'm pretty sure overall less people will die this month then in January 2015. In 2014 236 civilians were killed, in 2013 414. So yes there has been huge decrease in terrorism and everyone in Pakistan can tell you this, especially those in KPK.

There are already 62 casualties( deaths ) so far in Pakistan including Charsada, the point is that the fects and agenda remain same by terrorists kill hundred or 50 They continue to terrorize the nation. Well, it's not my point I'm more concern how we finish this cancer from our society.
Edit. Link
List of terrorist incidents, January–June 2016 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[mr.robot]

Hi,

Gen Raheel made the same mistake as Gen Mushy did---he let Zardari escape alongwith Nawaz----they bit him in the ar-se.

Gen Raheel let Zardari escape and that will cost the nation dearly. There is no urgency in solving problems---and that creates chaos and anarchy---he has given time to peoples part to think---it was on the run---now they have planned how to neuter Gen Raheel.

Very bad mistake for letting these criminals escape. Basically---he is all talk and not much substance.

Gen Raheel had his chance after APS shooting---he could have over thrown the govt---and not many countries would have objected---he could have taken the stand of lack of commitment from the civilian govt.

Hi,

I don't care about this B S---. When they bring out the base commander of karachi attack and the security incharge---the base commander of the Kamra attack and his security incharge---and the air vice marshalls who were the regional commanders and execute them with an anti air craft gun like No Korea did---till then this all is a Topi drama--.

And don't forget that Lt Col in 2005---who stopped the convoy because a few trees were fallen on the road---he stopped the convoy and did not place security detail---they got surrounded by taliban and he ordered to lay down the arms----that guy is on the top of the list for execution.

And another officer---this was for frontier constabulary---in right after tora bora when the terrs were coming and the FC captured a bus load---the soldiers wanted to tie their hands but the officer stated--no---they are our brothers---no tying hands---. A melee occured--some of those captured while getting on the bus got entangled with the FC sodliers grabbed their rifles and killed many of them and escaped.

That officer needs his firing squad moment---.

Sir, you are hitting the nail on the head though it would likely be considered blasphemy because you can't ask answers or critcize the "only patriots".

 

[Viper0011.]

It is about time that Gen Raheel and P M Nawaz should be shown the door. Both have had their time in the office and have not used it to make a substantial difference in the security of the nation.

The supreme court should dissolve the govt----terminate the general and find another man more suitable for the job.

The general has shown no urgency to tackle the problem---but is moving at a slow pace. The nation is not on thre same page because of immense corruption in the provinces and the corrupt being let go..

Man, you talk about these serious issues like its a child story!!!! All while you enjoy a great life living in the US!!!! You realize you think and behave in the same age where you left your real country right? That's all humans. They stay stuck in that time and don't move on as that's where the last reference to life was on that planet for them.

So both NS and RS should be sent home. JUST like Zaheer and Shuja Pasha was planning on doing to support IK and funded by the RAW . And the whole idea RAW and some nationalist had, was to use that time and create a national rift to breaking Pakistan as these nationalistis would start a Pashtunistan civil war.

What you are suggesting is along the same lines. Who would you rather have? A general like Mushy, who robbed the entire nation but has hawkish things to say?

Why do you live in the US and don't bitch about Democracy here that works for your and your children's favor, without any generals stealing all TV time. But for your home country, you want a forceful dictatorship. And all the dictators have been proven to be complacent, not to mention flat out corrupt.

60+ years worth of monsters inside the socioeconomic system can't be taken out by force in a day. The Civil rule has to continue and take the country to the next level. BTW, I've personally met multiple corps commanders a few years ago, and they don't have a desire to produce a dictator anymore either.

 

[MastanKhan]

Supreme patience is the call of the day. Sacrifices are there to be made to fix the issues which developed over long time. Showing back and leaving the trench aren't the signs of manhood. Keep your cool and focus on strategies and tactics. I know it's dead easier to say than to do, but choices are very limited. Turkey has been fighting PKK for the last 30 years - if it provides any solace. We lost one third of our young male population in WW1.

Hi,

The thing is that we did not need to be in this place---where we find ourselves today. Our problem is that our military did not take the threat seriously at first and did not convey it to the people thru the media in a proper manner what the consequences would be.

If we had executed two people after mumbai attacks----70% of our problems would have been resolved.

One of them was a 'controller on the phone with this terr asking him to kill the old jewish couple---if you have not heard the tape conversation between the terr and his handler---how he manipulates the terr with threat---love---restarint---manipulating---thru voice hypnotism---that conversation is a ' master piece of over the phone voice hypnotism---that man should have been taken out and neutered.

This mess is of our own creation---we called them our 'islamic brothers' till they shoved their knives thru our bellies---.

 

[Maarkhoor]

please shut the F up.

Don't ever use bad language against any one and remember it. (reported for that)

Indian cry loud against ISI first give and prove that Pakistan and ISI was behind any attack in India then demand the same. Your NSA and senior politician on camera accept and claim what i said Ajit Doval and Parikar check the video or declare them liars.

 

[Spectre]

Don't ever use bad language against any one and remember it. (reported for that)

Indian cry loud against ISI first give and prove that Pakistan and ISI was behind any attack in India then demand the same. Your NSA and senior politician on camera accept and claim what i said Ajit Doval and Parikar check the video or declare them liars.

Dont loose your composure and argue on facts. David Coleman Headley under FBI interrogation confirmed that some of the ISI personnel were involved in Mumbai attacks.

Did Indian ever say that attacks on Pakistan are false flags? No we dont we attribute them to terrorists. Why cant you afford us the same curtsey?

 

[Maarkhoor]

Dont loose your composure and argue on facts. David Coleman Headley under FBI interrogation confirmed that some of the ISI personnel were involved in Mumbai attacks.

Did Indian ever say that attacks on Pakistan are false flags? No we dont we attribute them to terrorists. Why cant you afford us the same curtsey?

My last reply to you and don't talk about curtsey even after my pointing out your bad language you haven't apologize for that.

Who is Headley ? former CIA agent. go KID and have research about it. why not US or India take any action, Yes USA which always first in the row to blame us to put pressure to do more.

 

[Marshmallow]

I have all the respect for the General and PM for whatever little or more efforts they have made so far in this regard but i really HATE it when they still raise those "BhaiChara" "Brotherhood" slogans for our worthless Neighbours like Afghanistan/Afghanistanies even having some clear and convincing evidence with them against those butchers,butchering our students and kids every other day!

Im sure ISPR instead of staying busy composing their next song on Charsadda attack,would actually enlighten us of Army's/Gov's next immediate strategy on how to stop Afghan Terrorists crossing our border and letting us die so easily everyday!

 

[Zibago]

There are already 62 casualties( deaths ) so far in Pakistan including Charsada, the point is that the fects and agenda remain same by terrorists kill hundred or 50 They continue to terrorize the nation. Well, it's not my point I'm more concern how we finish this cancer from our society.
Edit. Link
List of terrorist incidents, January–June 2016 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Janwar marnay sey pehlay pharpharata hay

 

[Spectre]

My last reply to you and don't talk about curtsey even after my pointing out your bad language you haven't apologize for that.

Who is Headley ? former CIA agent. go KID and have research about it. why not US or India take any action, Yes USA which always first in the row to blame us to put pressure to do more.

I was if anything restrained - the kind of false flag crap you talk about called for much much worse. Why would an agency tasked with protecting Indians from external attacks betray it's mandate and do the thing it is designed to stop. Just because you say so? Just because you can't accept something which even your PMs, Presidents, Ambassadors and Generals have time and again accepted

Yeah - everyone is against you US, India the whole west. You do know that first step to redemption is accepting the faults within you - if you keep up with the denial then things aren't going to get better

 

[45'22']

I have all the respect for the General and PM for whatever little or more efforts they have made so far in this regard but i really HATE it when they still raise those "BhaiChara" "Brotherhood" slogans for our worthless Neighbours like Afghanistan/Afghanistanies even having some clear and convincing evidence with them against those butchers,butchering our students and kids every other day!

Im sure ISPR instead of staying busy composing their next song on Charsadda attack,would actually enlighten us of Army's/Gov's next immediate strategy on how to stop Afghan Terrorists crossing our border and letting us die so easily everyday!

You don't have the money to completely seal of the borders.....its saddening to say this but things like this will continue for a decade or 2 at least

 

[Zibago]

Man, you talk about these serious issues like its a child story!!!! All while you enjoy a great life living in the US!!!! You realize you think and behave in the same age where you left your real country right? That's all humans. They stay stuck in that time and don't move on as that's where the last reference to life was on that planet for them.

So both NS and RS should be sent home. JUST like Zaheer and Shuja Pasha was planning on doing to support IK and funded by the RAW . And the whole idea RAW and some nationalist had, was to use that time and create a national rift to breaking Pakistan as these nationalistis would start a Pashtunistan civil war.

What you are suggesting is along the same lines. Who would you rather have? A general like Mushy, who robbed the entire nation but has hawkish things to say?

Why do you live in the US and don't bitch about Democracy here that works for your and your children's favor, without any generals stealing all TV time. But for your home country, you want a forceful dictatorship. And all the dictators have been proven to be complacent, not to mention flat out corrupt.

60+ years worth of monsters inside the socioeconomic system can't be taken out by force in a day. The Civil rule has to continue and take the country to the next level. BTW, I've personally met multiple corps commanders a few years ago, and they don't have a desire to produce a dictator anymore either.

Again with the pashtunistan and raw funding isi bull shit

You don't have the money to completely seal of the borders.....its saddening to say this but things like this will continue for a decade or 2 at least

Not two decades but 2-3 years

 

[CHD]

Dont loose your composure and argue on facts. David Coleman Headley under FBI interrogation confirmed that some of the ISI personnel were involved in Mumbai attacks.

Did Indian ever say that attacks on Pakistan are false flags? No we dont we attribute them to terrorists. Why cant you afford us the same curtsey?

These are also facts that your PM admmitted terrorism against a soveriegn state in 71, your NSA and DM has openely admitted to conduct terrorists activites in Pakistan.
If you wana continue to the path of using afghanistan against Pakistan then remember India is big country with alot of loopholes and its just need go head from Rawalpindi.

 

[Sugarcane]

Hi,

It is about time that Gen Raheel and P M Nawaz should be shown the door. Both have had their time in the office and have not used it to make a substantial difference in the security of the nation.

The supreme court should dissolve the govt----terminate the general and find another man more suitable for the job.

The general has shown no urgency to tackle the problem---but is moving at a slow pace. The nation is not on thre same page because of immense corruption in the provinces and the corrupt being let go.

The general has lied thru his teeth that the corrupt will pay the price=----but we have been listening to this drama for the last one year now---and no one has been persecuted.

the criminal in chief Zardari was allowed to escape alongwith many others with all their cash.

I believe that the general is a good man---who means good----but does not have the courage and lacks the decisive and incisive power to make things happen.

There is too much docility at the generals staff level of pakistan military.

What about supreme court itself? What it has delivered in 7 decades?