Is Israel really Pakistan’s enemy?

[Cheetah786]

terrorist jafrya mullahs have been allowed to contest elections

what does that has to do with Topic? @darkinsky shias are on the receiving end of the terrorist attacks so no matter what your Wahhabi mullahs tells you you are still Terrorist.

Please note, I have no problem with a liberal, a true liberal. I used the term wannabe liberal in my post, a person who tries to act liberal just because of fashion.

Even if we don't recognize Israel she is as real as they get. i just wanted to know how come educated person like you can question such and out dated and dumb policy of not recognizing Israel to please some extremist conservatives.

 

[AHAM BRIHMASMI]

Because the quran says so...The scheming jew that is continually outsmarting and trolling Muslims since early Islam and the venom has passed down..

Dear friend, with due regards, if you go through any record other than islamic literature, you will find that situation is completely other way around,
tell me from your own records, how many times jews have raided muslims and how many times muslims have raided jews in the life times of paigamber hazrat muhammad sahab itself ?? you will find the answer.

 

[Jango]

Even if we don't recognize Israel she is as real as they get. i just wanted to know how come educated person like you can question such and out dated and dumb policy of not recognizing Israel to please some extremist conservatives.

It's not a matter of a dumb policy or not, but since Israel isn't our enemy for some people, it isn't our friend either.

If there was a boundary line b/w an enemy and a friendly state, Israel would be on the enemy on the side without a doubt.

How can Israel benefit us?

 

[pkuser2k12]

 

[Cheetah786]

It's not a matter of a dumb policy or not, but since Israel isn't our enemy for some people, it isn't our friend either.

If there was a boundary line b/w an enemy and a friendly state, Israel would be on the enemy on the side without a doubt.

Your so called allies and friends The Arabs have never suspended trading or diplomatic relations with India whenever we needed them.Arabs were no where to be seen during 1971 and 65 war. But they are seen behind every terrorist attack in pakistan Its called saudisation of pakistan not isrealization.

I will quote Quaid-e-Azam

Our objective should be peace within and peace without. We want to live peacefully and maintain cordial and friendly relations with our immediate neighbors and with world at large. We have no aggressive designs against any one. We stand by the United Nations Charter and will gladly make our contribution to the peace and prosperity of the world.

How can Israel benefit us?

one of the comments made by Zvi on the same puts it beautifully and i couldn't agree more.

India is obtaining badly-needed agricultural and clean-water technology from Israel. It is starting joint ventures in the technology sector. It is exchanging students with Israel’s leading universities, like Weizmann and the Technion. And it is buying Israeli military technology. Israel’s friends are able to do these things.

Every time a Pakistani leader has reached out to Israel, Israel has responded with warmth. There is nothing standing in the way of a Pakistan-Israel friendship except for Pakistan’s refusal to let it happen.

Israel has diplomatic relations with Jordan (whose population is more than 50% Palestinian ), with Egypt (which spent 30 years trying to destroy Israel through warfare, and which is ruled by the Muslim Brotherhood) and with Azerbaijan, Albania, Nigeria and other Muslim countries that do a perfectly good job of supporting the Palestinians (they do a better job of supporting the Palestinians than Pakistan does, in fact, because they can actually express their concerns and suggestions to the Israelis rather than just talking to each other about how much they hate Israel. We can always look at Turkey that has benefited immensely by having relations with Israel .


Here is whats going to ask you and all other intelligent posters here

Israel allows all Palestinians Muslims or Christians born with in state of Israel a complete rights as a natural born Jew and are given citizen ship which Arab states deny to any and all Palestinian.

So you see its kind of confusing since the same Arabs who are fighting for Palestinians dont give the same rights Israel has given to Palestinians but are fighting for Palestinians.?

 

[NotSoSuper]

u knw ................. Israel does not give a **** for your existence.....

even the ppl here discussing does not talk abt Pak-Israel issue............they are talikin abt Israel and their neighboring countries..........y pak wants so much importance

 

[500]

As to Jews allegedly not using religion, you are exposing your utter ignorance of the conflict and the dynamics. The Israelis framed it as a religious conflict, both to milk Holocaust sympathy and anti-Semitism victim card, and to frame it as a religious duty of every Jew.

Thats complete rubbish.

Its Palestinians who failed in war turned first the conflict into Arabs against Israel. And when it did not work either turned into Muslims against Israel.

As for the Jewish texts, they are used by some Jews to justify their claim, as well as the treatment of non-Jews. Thousands of years ago, the Hebrews used religion to justify the massacre of native Canaanites and take over their land. In the 20th century, the Zionists used a combination of smart politics and religious justification to repeat the process.

Muslims in Israel live better than in Pakistan. So spare me of that nonsense.

 

[Cheetah786]

u knw ................. Israel does not give a **** for your existence.....

even the ppl here discussing does not talk abt Pak-Israel issue............they are talikin abt Israel and their neighboring countries..........y pak wants so much importance

Thank you for your personal biased one sided scared to death opinion now take your opinion and stfu.

 

[A1Kaid]

Because the quran says so...The scheming jew that is continually outsmarting and trolling Muslims since early Islam and the venom has passed down..

The scheming Jew was kept under Christian and Muslim thumbs for centuries and didn't have a state.

 

[NotSoSuper]

Thank you for your personal biased one sided scared to death opinion now take your opinion and stfu.

Oh cmmon PDF veteran........look at yourself.......u the one who is talking abt jordan, philistine with Israel and Pak wid India............i simply does not understood wat u think on the name of Islam people of different countries will unite together............name me one conflict or one favor that u ppl had with Israel...........jst because u r some blog veteran does not approve u to post any bullshit........if u wanna talk abt Israel and its neighbor.......den there is no need to open a thread regarding pak and Israel or else stick to ur topic and does not not bring other countries to ur discussion..........do u copy?

trust me bro ppl are nt taking abt pak Israel here.......u failed once again......

 

[Cheetah786]

Oh cmmon PDF veteran........look at yourself.......u the one who is talking abt jordan, philistine with Israel and Pak wid India............i simply does not understood wat u think on the name of Islam people of different countries will unite together............name me one conflict or one favor that u ppl had with Israel...........jst because u r some blog veteran does not approve u to post any bullshit........if u wanna talk abt Israel and its neighbor.......den there is no need to open a thread regarding pak and Israel or else stick to ur topic and does not not bring other countries to ur discussion..........do u copy?

The Fact this thread and whats being discussed here is scaring you means we are on to some thing

 

[NotSoSuper]

The Fact this thread and whats being discussed here is scaring you means we are on to some thing

ur this comment bars me to talk any sensible thing with u..........r u nt afraid of continuous bombing in pak?.........u claim that india afraid of 4 tents of china in indian territory but u claim that TTP is indian sponsored ..........u should think again again if india were alone afraid of 4 tents .............den maybe TTP is grouped financed by RAW and MOSSAD

not even a israel's member approves your thought........... tomorrow is monday go to sleep and jst think abt how to fulfill ur basis needs

 

[Slav Defence]

whatever...the answer is yes 100%

 

[Aktavist_KKWC]

Your so called allies and friends The Arabs have never suspended trading or diplomatic relations with India whenever we needed them.Arabs were no where to be seen during 1971 and 65 war. But they are seen behind every terrorist attack in pakistan Its called saudisation of pakistan not isrealization.

I will quote Quaid-e-Azam




one of the comments made by Zvi on the same puts it beautifully and i couldn't agree more.

India is obtaining badly-needed agricultural and clean-water technology from Israel. It is starting joint ventures in the technology sector. It is exchanging students with Israel’s leading universities, like Weizmann and the Technion. And it is buying Israeli military technology. Israel’s friends are able to do these things.

Every time a Pakistani leader has reached out to Israel, Israel has responded with warmth. There is nothing standing in the way of a Pakistan-Israel friendship except for Pakistan’s refusal to let it happen.

Israel has diplomatic relations with Jordan (whose population is more than 50% Palestinian ), with Egypt (which spent 30 years trying to destroy Israel through warfare, and which is ruled by the Muslim Brotherhood) and with Azerbaijan, Albania, Nigeria and other Muslim countries that do a perfectly good job of supporting the Palestinians (they do a better job of supporting the Palestinians than Pakistan does, in fact, because they can actually express their concerns and suggestions to the Israelis rather than just talking to each other about how much they hate Israel. We can always look at Turkey that has benefited immensely by having relations with Israel .


Here is whats going to ask you and all other intelligent posters here

Israel allows all Palestinians Muslims or Christians born with in state of Israel a complete rights as a natural born Jew and are given citizen ship which Arab states deny to any and all Palestinian.

So you see its kind of confusing since the same Arabs who are fighting for Palestinians dont give the same rights Israel has given to Palestinians but are fighting for Palestinians.?

You are clearly ignorant. There are over a dozen apartheid laws against Arabs. Arabs can not build anywhere but Jews can arrive from around the world to claim stolen land.

The so called state of Israel is nothing but a temporary modern day crusader outpost with roots from Judo-Christian Zionism.

Recognising this entity as legitimate would be immoral, incorrect and against Islamic belief.

 

[Wright]

You are clearly ignorant. There are over a dozen apartheid laws against Arabs. Arabs can not build anywhere but Jews can arrive from around the world to claim stolen land.

The so called state of Israel is nothing but a temporary modern day crusader outpost with roots from Judo-Christian Zionism.

Recognising this entity as legitimate would be immoral, incorrect and against Islamic belief.

Not that is matters but Arabs recongize India despite Kashmir.