Is Israel really Pakistan’s enemy?

[faisal6309]

Relations cannot be improved if both parties don't want to improve relation between them..

 

[humanfirst]

Do you really want me to dig up quotes from Jewish texts about how to treat the goyim?
Do you really?

What's sad is the hate-filled brainwashing that Indians demonstrate by cheerleading for anyone and everyone who kills Muslims.

You can certainly dig up some jewish texts that matches the barbarity of "genocidal jewish hatred" seen in the hadith i posted..But given the context,they will be apt only if jews are using that "religious motivation" to hate others in the way muslims show religiously motivated hatred against jews,which can be amply seen in this forum itself,or even in this thread...And it sure is irony when a muslim pretend to be ignorant of such things and accuse "zionists" of spreading hatred..

 

[Jango]

Express tribune, do we really need to discuss what this wannabe liberal wants?

 

[hussain0216]

Oh not this rubbish again

The vast majority of Muslims/pakistanis hate israelis or jews and I mean jews not zionists, saying we just hate zionists is a cop out

Jerusalem is an emotive issue for muslims and the jew occupation of Jerusalem and the palestinians is not acceptable

If a pakistani leader ever went ahead and tried to establish relations with Israel their would be a revolt and the leader would be ganging from a lamppost by his balls

 

[Developereo]

You can certainly dig up some jewish texts that matches the barbarity of "genocidal jewish hatred" seen in the hadith i posted..But given the context,they will be apt only if jews are using that "religious motivation" to hate others in the way muslims show religiously motivated hatred against jews,which can be amply seen in this forum itself,or even in this thread...And it sure is irony when a muslim pretend to be ignorant of such things and accuse "zionists" of spreading hatred..

Nobody is ignorant of religious texts. Only you are ignorant to claim that such texts are unique to any one religion.

As to Jews allegedly not using religion, you are exposing your utter ignorance of the conflict and the dynamics. The Israelis framed it as a religious conflict, both to milk Holocaust sympathy and anti-Semitism victim card, and to frame it as a religious duty of every Jew.

As for the Jewish texts, they are used by some Jews to justify their claim, as well as the treatment of non-Jews. Thousands of years ago, the Hebrews used religion to justify the massacre of native Canaanites and take over their land. In the 20th century, the Zionists used a combination of smart politics and religious justification to repeat the process.

Again, just because you chose to ignore reality in your indoctrinated hatred of Muslims, won't change the facts.

The vast majority of Muslims/pakistanis hate israelis or jews and I mean jews not zionists, saying we just hate zionists is a cop out

That's because the Israelis always frame it as a Jewish cause, in order to milk Holocaust sympathy and to play the anti-Semitism victim card.

There are many Jews who oppose Israel.

 

[MooshMoosh]

If Israel has a diplomatic relationship with India then possible. It doesn't matter because their daddy US gives Pakistan military aids so why bother? You did a good job hitting them in 1967.

 

[MooshMoosh]

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[PteX]

As for the Jewish texts, they are used by some Jews to justify their claim, as well as the treatment of non-Jews. Thousands of years ago, the Hebrews used religion to justify the massacre of native Canaanites and take over their land.

You speak of thousands of years ago but it seems that your kind has not evolved much in the thousands of years that have passed. You exhibit the same barbaric 7th century Arab mentality but with pretty words of "righteous hatred".

It is when Pakistan moves to the 21st century that there can be any relationship between the two nations. I might remind people that relationship does not mean friendship. Especially when the entire population is indoctrinated with pure hatred for a nation thousands of miles away.
The end result of this pointless hatred is evident in people like Developereo.

 

[humanfirst]

Nobody is ignorant of religious texts. Only you are ignorant to claim that such texts are unique to any one religion.

As to Jews allegedly not using religion, you are exposing your utter ignorance of the conflict and the dynamics. The Israelis framed it as a religious conflict, both to milk Holocaust sympathy and anti-Semitism victim card, and to frame it as a religious duty of every Jew.

As for the Jewish texts, they are used by some Jews to justify their claim, as well as the treatment of non-Jews. Thousands of years ago, the Hebrews used religion to justify the massacre of native Canaanites and take over their land. In the 20th century, the Zionists used a combination of smart politics and religious justification to repeat the process.

I never claimed that hate filled words are unique to any religion...I merely posted a genocidal islamic edict against jews the likes of which are used by muslims to justify their hatred on jews..The quoted part regarding "muslims one day Killing the jews hiding under trees and rocks" is a part of HAMAS charter as well...See..
And I didnt say anything about jews allegedly not using religion-as far as i know..Every abrahamic religion have tried to use religion as a political tool-some more and some less..That is not the topic here..And who all are using religion to justify hatred(attitude of we hate because our god/holybook said so..)and how much,is for everyone to see..No use of arguing on that..

 

[PteX]

You don't understand man. They brainwashed people in the West to hate Muslims. The Jewish run Hollywood used films to brainwash Arabs eg; True Lies, The Dictators etc. The Jewish run mainstream media call us terrorist and made people think "Islam is a fascist religion". They created the Islamophobia in the West. They commited big crimes all the time and far back to millenium ages. Indeed yes we accused them of spreading hatred against Muslims.

Yeah, 9/11 should have made the Americans love you. They were brainwashed into hating you, clearly.

 

[Controlled Pair]

Point of the thread is not recognizing Israel or not but point to fact that our foreign policy is driven from interests of other countries not ours and people are indoctrinated accordingly.

Don't agree. Your foreign policy is formed around what the Pakistanis want.

We can see what happens in Pakistan when a lawyer talks about repealing blasphemy laws for example.

We can see the riots when rumours of the Qu'ran being damaged, or pope's speech a few years ago.

Pakistan would face riots from certain quarters if they tried to have relations with Israel. No doubt the politicians' life behind this endeavour would be endangered.

Much as I would like to have relations with Pakistan - and one could argue that making peace with Israel would open up more doors for Pakistan and give them a better international image - I don't think Pakistan should endanger itself and give extremists more reasons to bomb them.

 

[Cheetah786]

@Cheetah786 , yor shia friend Iran is against even the existence of Israel, and you are asking this question to your adopted home, pakistan?

@darkinsky you are a Wahhabi and your contribution to Pakistan is visible through out every grave yard in pakistan. I like being questioned by Wahhabi whos whole existence in pakistan has threatened her security.My loyalty is being question by the same who blow up pakistan piece by piece to satisfy their ARAB MASTERS.

Iranian government foreign policy is Iranians concern not mine you as a Saudi Wahhabi terrorist- supporter questioning me is priceless.

 

[darkinsky]

@darkinsky you are a Wahhabi and your contribution to Pakistan is visible through out every grave yard in pakistan. I like being questioned by Wahhabi whos whole existence in pakistan has threatened her security.My loyalty is being question by the same who blow up pakistan piece by piece to satisfy their ARAB MASTERS.

Iranian government foreign policy is Iranians concern not mine you as a Saudi Wahhabi terrorist- supporter questioning me is priceless.

terrorist jafrya mullahs have been allowed to contest elections

 

[Cheetah786]

Express tribune, do we really need to discuss what this wannabe liberal wants?

Why being a liberal means you cant help shape pakistan foreign policy ?

 

[Jango]

Why being a liberal means you cant help shape pakistan foreign policy ?

Please note, I have no problem with a liberal, a true liberal. I used the term wannabe liberal in my post, a person who tries to act liberal just because of fashion.