Very true. Ayub being a military officer fell for this 'promise'. He should have known these 'promises' are not worth the paper they are written on. I read a book by insider, a British diplomat who negotiated this 'promise' and how India agreed [when China was tearing at it's innards] but later dragged out the negotiations until the whole thing whithered. Rest is history. Anybody want to read the inner workings of the Indo-Pakistan conflict in 1960s needs to read this book.
In a perverse way China offered us a enticing possibility of defeating India but at the same chained us from going for India. The west considered China the 'red threat' in 1960s. Massive western arms supplies post Chinese intrusion in 1962 enabled India to stand up. In addition western arms embargo against Pakistan in 1965 was precipitated on the idea that they could not let India fail or else China would gain. Thus US boycot of arms to Pakistan in 1965.
The promise -
Pakistan does not use the 1962 event when India was on it's knees to make a go for Kashmir. In return USA and UK would use their influence to resolve the Kashmir issue once the threat from China had ebated.
Once the threat from China ebated talks began arranged by US Secretary of State [Talbot?] in conjunction with US and British embassies in both South Asian countries. Sir Morrice Jones was critical in these discussions. He narrates how India obfuscated and then stalled the negotiations until the whole thing died out. Ayub never quite got over this and would go on to make the 1965 mistake.
Lesson for Pakistan:
Strike the bloody iron when it's hot.
Thank you so much for introducing me to this book, my reading shelf is already shamefully gathering dust, the pages are waiting for me to turn them lol, but I will try and get hold of this book and read it at some point.
Hindsight is a lovely thing to have, you make judgments with the information you have at the time. But, I can proudly say that I love being Pakistani (and British, it's my home
), we have achieved a hell of a lot and shown dignity, far more then our people realise, and far far far more then the world gives us credit for.
Offtopic, but I never realized till recently that Pakistan had given
diplomatic passports to North African leaders in their fight for independence from the French when we were still a young nation, that took guts, but no one knows or talks about it.
Indians helped the Soviet Union
kill over 1 million Afghans and they never stop talking about the so-called couple of billions they have apparently spent in Afghanistan over 20 years, talk about peanuts. I would like to see them take just half of refugees that have been living in Pakistan for 40 years.
This is the trouble with fanboys. They pick up a detail and forget all the rest.
This was just after China had made spaghetti of American troops. Since you are apparently new to military history and still groping your way around, read up on the Korean War.
The Americans threatening China would have had zero effect on Mao bent on his path.
What is quite clear is that the Chinese always intended to withdraw after achieving their war aims. The winter was not favourable to China for troop movements; road and rail communications were still primitive within Tibet, and most of the Chinese stockpiling had been done over six months; not something that could be supplemented on the fly.
I am impressed that you chose a larger type-face to announce this breakthrough sourcing; you must be really desperate.
The larger face type was copy and paste process, If I had known you are so sensitive, I might have made it a different size. Plus, I thought as you're are so slow, it might help you to read better.
Please try and make sense, not accusations, fanboy???
If you do not know the details, you do not know anything. Yes, I agree with the reasons you stated, they are obviously well known, the facts are in the details, like the ones I just gave you. Obviously you can't live without being spoonfed, but
sonny boy, I hope you have learnt by now that things happen for a multitude of reasons.
That American threat was part of the Chinese calculation, the American aid of almost a billion dollars was already on the ground, more would have followed. You people need to wake up and leave your fantasies.
Read your great leader Nehru's letters to USA and UK begging and crying like a baby for help, the two countries you use to love hating. What hypocrites, you have no morals, that's why you lot are killing each other like its Holi every day, loving the red.
