PurpleButcher
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So you are trying to convince us based on what you say (you arent giving references) that the Western hate mongers are right that Prophet went around murdering people for no reason?
And Blasphemy was such a big deal then why spare the Jewish woman throwing garbage on him? That is also blasphemy....harming RELIGIOUS FIGURES...What about the "blasphemy" of urinating in the masjid? Even that was ignored and no harm was done to the man...WHY? Coz prophet doesnt preach hatred nor did he thought us to judge with a quick angered and biased mind! So please mind yourself next time before typing BS coz who knows you are the one doing blasphemy by saying Prophet approved such action!
Hadith mein details mein janay seh pehlay ....QURAN ko samjho and go into details in the Quran instead of relying on hadith jinki ALLAH nay koi promise nai rakhi ...Who knows someone may be poisoning our hadith with such hate speech..Are you a Muhadith? If not then stick to the Quran where ALLAH said it is a book easy to understand! THEN READ IT!
ALLAH says more times in the Quran about HIS mercy over his Wrath why are you like the believers of the old testament who always said stuff like god is angry, jealous god?
Saying something bad about a prophet who is dead is not reason enough to kill someone! Unless your religion is false and cant hold ground or is RADICAL (as the west puts it)...
Why are you overlooking all the passion and love and mercy and peace ...Islam means peace but you are depicting something that is far from peace!
How can saying something bad about prophet harm ANYONE? Seriously, Prophet is dead....No matter what anyone says about HIM will not change what a great man he was when he was alive! Koi gali bhi day day naa tou Prophet ki naiki nai khattam ho jai gi! kiya Islam itna weak hai kay kissi kay kehnay say usko koi Kharash bhi lag sakti hai? Yeh tou insaan ki weakness hai Islam ko mat blame kero!
Kabhi kabhi insaan thora sooch hi layta hai Jo KHUDA jisnay MEDAAN-E-JANG mein kaha agar koi chata hai safety usko safety par lay jao...Madaan-e-jang mein jub damagh khas nai kaam kera hota tub kaha giyea hai nainsaafi naa kerna!
Basically we South Asian Muslims who do not understand arabic and are still idol worshipers. We have made many idols and worship them day in and day out. Quran is a very big idol to us, we kiss it in the morning, before reading,after reading, after Prophet's Name we kiss our hands, on eid milad-ul nabi we act as if Prophet has arrived in our majlis, last year on ary i was watching the live transmission of bahistee darwaza (door to heaven) from some URS....etc... heck i remember my dadi had a 100 year old copy of heer ranjha by waris shah, she used to recite it and kiss it as well
In middle east, of whom i have become a fan as far as their understanding of Islam and Quran is concerned(not their behaviors ) ,you go to a mosque and you will find someone reading Quran, discussing it. In my university the mosque in the center of post graduate housing is the social center, people bring laptops over there, some are discussing projects, some making assignments, some making presentation, some studying Quran, the mosque is a very social place unlike the case of Pakistan.
We seldom try to understand Quran, ponder over the beautiful verses and see their relevance in our daily lives. Since being a Muslim,it is our belief that Allah is the creator, so Quran is the manual of human life. Why should we leave our course book and go for reference books? yes in some cases we can go to references where their is doubt but we have to start from the course book(Quran) first and only venture in reference territories once their is some confusion. But even in that case we must remember that the reference book(Sunnah) is not divine referenced but referenced by fellow humans and there can be discrepancies in it, even the collectors of ahadees mentioned it in their compilations.
Now coming back to the topic, as far as i can comprehend from the total discussion not a single historical evidence has been quoted so far which proves a person was deemed guilty of blasphemy alone, rather in every case, the punished person had committed some other crimes (war,murder etc).
1>Can you @ Zarvan please quote some reference (because there is no such thing like this in Quran as per the discussion here in concerned) where a person was only killed or punished for blasphemy, not for other crimes as well? If not , then i think the case of blasphemy is pretty much over.
2> Can you please tell me that "Is blasphemy pardonable or not"? (with references)
3> Can you please tell me the punishment of it?
The reason why I am asking these questions again is because your previous replies all had persons who were involved in other crimes as well ! and my understanding from listening to the reasoning of Dr. Nauman Ali Khan and Dr. Ghamdi has convinced me that there should be no punishment for blasphemy rather ignore it , bear it patiently and move on.
I quoted some videos on the subject in post 163 page 11.
I am not as knowledgeable in islamic fine details as @Akheilos @TankMan and as you(Zarvan) are but my question is this
1> why was the jewish garbage throwing lady not punished? (an example of a person solely involved in blasphemy)
2>Why holding a Quran by a non muslim can land 25 years imprisonment to that lady and her husband? (please go through the videos on page 163) What sort of a short sighted sick minded law (which is supposedly based on the teaching of Islam) is this?