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[Uhuhu]

Iran MIG 29 overhauled by Tabriz TAB personnel بازسازي اساسي ميگ 29 پايگاه هوايي تبريز ايران

Thanks to those personnel. officials declare to buy su-30s from russia and transferring technology to iran. and the deal is going to be signed nowadays. how we can trust Russia? Iran bought all its MIG-29's except four of them from russians, but as you can see in the above news, they have not been supporting those migs properly. why?

in idiocy of the leader policy, whenever we have abnormal relationship with west and limite ourselves only to russians or chinese, they use the opportunity very well and once upon a time they throw out something and in return receive a good Tribute.
If right now they are selling us su-30s, its all because we have access to other sellers like Chinese,France,Sweden.
how we can be sure khamenei and his fellows dont screw the relationship with west after ruhani presidency? and again we will find same problems as we had with mig-29s and nuclear power plants and so on ?

 

[Salman_Farsi]

Su-24 and F-14 , probably in Mehrabad...

 

[raazh]

How many Mig29 are now active with Iran ? Also will Iran go just for Su30 in the future or will it also look for a lighter plane like Mig35 to replace its old fleet? Although its still a double engine jet but since you already operate it so it wont be a bad idea .. IMO i.e.

 

[Salman_Farsi]

How many Mig29 are now active with Iran ? Also will Iran go just for Su30 in the future or will it also look for a lighter plane like Mig35 to replace its old fleet? Although its still a double engine jet but since you already operate it so it wont be a bad idea .. IMO i.e.

We have 28 Mig-29 in total.

Iran will probably sign a contract with Russia for the Su-30.
There were some rumours about the J-10 and J-17 as a light fighter but nothing is confirmed yet. It's also probable that Iran will try to develop a new jet with the cooperation of China and/or Russia.

 

[mohsen]

Thanks to those personnel. officials declare to buy su-30s from russia and transferring technology to iran. and the deal is going to be signed nowadays. how we can trust Russia? Iran bought all its MIG-29's except four of them from russians, but as you can see in the above news, they have not been supporting those migs properly. why?

in idiocy of the leader policy, whenever we have abnormal relationship with west and limite ourselves only to russians or chinese, they use the opportunity very well and once upon a time they throw out something and in return receive a good Tribute.
If right now they are selling us su-30s, its all because we have access to other sellers like Chinese,France,Sweden.
how we can be sure khamenei and his fellows dont screw the relationship with west after ruhani presidency? and again we will find same problems as we had with mig-29s and nuclear power plants and so on ?

having multiple sources not only wont change anything, it will increase our problems as it has happened already. we are the only country with so many different fighters.

so leader is to be blamed instead of innocent westerns. just like Mosaddeq, right? it was khameneie who screwed our relation with west and toppled the Mosaddeq.
maybe you are missing Khatami's foreign achievements: the title of "Axis of evil".
or maybe you really have the delusion that west powers will sell any weapon to us, some Mirage maybe .

 

[Uhuhu]

having multiple sources not only wont change anything, it will increase our problems as it has happened already. we are the only country with so many different fighters.

so leader is to be blamed instead of innocent westerns. just like Mosaddeq, right? it was khameneie who screwed our relation with west and toppled the Mosaddeq.
maybe you are missing Khatami's foreign achievements: the title of "Axis of evil".
or maybe you really have the delusion that west powers will sell any weapon to us, some Mirage maybe .

should i blame west for not selling their own products to us?
china, india and north korea all are against west and try to be independent. but among these 3 countries china and india instead of confronting directly with west. tried to have a normal relationship with everyone while never accepted US and west Avarice.they understood their own positions and their own powers. tried to make a strong economy because they are wise enough to understand having strong economy is the first step to become a powerful country. not like some extremists in iran who destroyed the economy and its capacity and brought the country to ledge of collapsing.

ignorants who instead of building their own country, spend the oil money for their adventures and clashes in the world meanwhile lots of critical problems are threating the existence of iran in next decades.
how much blackmail you paid to Russians in last decade while they even didnt overhaul properly your old fighters, submarines and over 30 years they are building an old nuclear power plant? why during last decade you were not able to buy su-30's and its license? let me enlighten you.
its all because of the Fantasies of dictator, iran limited itself only to russia and china. so they used irans leader stupidity as much as they could.

but look at the third country. north korea who have same mind as khamenei.
in there some stupid people also every day yelling against west while their country is much backward than the world. they are trying to be independent and insulting west and US as you and khamenei do. but the fact is, nowadays they became slaves of Chinese. completely dependent on china in every field.

though we also experienced a Milder version for a short time during sanction period and previous government.

if you would think more like a wise person, you could considered gripen, mirage and .. also, why not.. like india.

but unfortunately the ignorance of the dictator has no ending..

 

[mohsen]

should i blame west for not selling their own products to us?
china, india and north korea all are against west and try to be independent. but among these 3 countries china and india instead of confronting directly with west. tried to have a normal relationship with everyone while never accepted US and west Avarice.they understood their own positions and their own powers. tried to make a strong economy because they are wise enough to understand having strong economy is the first step to become a powerful country. not like some extremists in iran who destroyed the economy and its capacity and brought the country to ledge of collapsing.

ignorants who instead of building their own country, spend the oil money for their adventures and clashes in the world meanwhile lots of critical problems are threating the existence of iran in next decades.
how much blackmail you paid to Russians in last decade while they even didnt overhaul properly your old fighters, submarines and over 30 years they are building an old nuclear power plant? why during last decade you were not able to buy su-30's and its license? let me enlighten you.
its all because of the Fantasies of dictator, iran limited itself only to russia and china. so they used irans leader stupidity as much as they could.

but look at the third country. north korea who have same mind as khamenei.
in there some stupid people also every day yelling against west while their country is much backward than the world. they are trying to be independent and insulting west and US as you and khamenei do. but the fact is, nowadays they became slaves of Chinese. completely dependent on china in every field.

though we also experienced a Milder version for a short time during sanction period and previous government.

if you would think more like a wise person, you could considered gripen, mirage and .. also, why not.. like india.

but unfortunately the ignorance of the dictator has no ending..

the only ignorance I see here is yours and those who don't learn from the past.
you can't compare us with china, india or any other country, our situation is absolutely different. our problem is Ideological while the problem between Chinese, Russians, Indians and Americans is just a power struggle. I brought 2 clear examples of our relations with west in the past and you ignored all of them, because none of them supports your theories.
while you are dreaming of buying western weapons, your new friend, Mrs sherman called you an extremist. so good luck with the rest of your dreams.

 

[Uhuhu]

the only ignorance I see here is yours and those who don't learn from the past.
you can't compare us with china, india or any other country, our situation is absolutely different. our problem is Ideological while the problem between Chinese, Russians, Indians and Americans is just a power struggle. I brought 2 clear examples of our relations with west in the past and you ignored all of them, because none of them supports your theories.
while you are dreaming of buying western weapons, your new friend, Mrs sherman called you an extremist. so good luck with the rest of your dreams.

Dont try to divert the subject. actually i never ignored them thats why i named india,china. you can ask Indians and Chinese to clarify you that what west interfere means.. their experiment is much worse than us. but they learned how to treat to don't let those events happen again while you just let this happen again by another one.
good luck going to worship your Great idol, khamenei.

 

[Serpentine]

 

[Tomyris]

150 Su-30/35
40 su-34
6 AWACS
j-10 or E-35, or an Iranian fighter develop with the help of Russian and Chinese

this is what would take to iran, with its aviation as it will be the first air power in the region.

 

[VEVAK]

help of Russian and Chinese

150 Su-30/35
40 su-34
6 AWACS
j-10 or E-35, or an Iranian fighter develop with the help of Russian and Chinese

this is what would take to iran, with its aviation as it will be the first air power in the region.

Sorry azizam vali that's just what we need right now for our air force to rival that of Soodi Arabia but not surpass it by any means. FYI by 2019 the Soodii soosools will receive all 84 F-15's they have on order now


Sooodi soosools will have

~238 F-15 by 2019 (150 active right now)
~70 Eurofighter Typhoons
~80 Tornados (Being upgraded)
~7 AWACS
~14 Airborne Refueling

The Su-30 is great platform but it's upgrades is the only thing that will determine whether it will be superior to these fighters or not for example upgraded F-15SA will operate AESA radars
&
If Iran orders them now the 1st batch will arrive 2019 and it will take well over a decade for all of them to be delivered and our pilots fully trained and that will unfortunately give the Soosools ample time to respond by buying more fighters

So if we want to rival Soosool Arabia's Air Force within the next decade we need to purchase

250 Su-30/35 fighters
50 Su-34
100 Multirole fighters (Start production of an Iranian multirole fighter)
10 AWACS (purchase 5 AWACS & build 5 using IR-140 &(or) Iran-150 if possible)
10 Air refueling

Unfortunately, Iranian leaders don't put much stock in having a superior air force so I don't believe Iran has any intentions of taking such measures. Iran will likely purchase 50-80 Su-30 just so it has an air force and will likely continue doing what it's been doing and expand on the development of it's missiles for the next decade

 

[NaCon]

if Iran wants a strong air force then they should start their own fighter program and invest in it heavily. They shouldn't count on the Russians or the Chinese those countries wont help rebuild Iran's air force in a million years as long as they maintain good relations with Israel.

the fact that Iran just signed a contract with Boeing to buy around a hundred airplanes just after the US court ruled that they should pay 10.5 billion dollars for the 9/11 attacks and the confiscation of 2 billion dollars of Iran's frozen assets due to another court ruling regarding the Beirut attacks proves that some politicians in Iran just don't get it that the only way iran can build a strong military capability is by relying on themselves and their home grown talent

 

[VEVAK]

if Iran wants a strong air force then they should start their own fighter program and invest in it heavily. They shouldn't count on the Russians or the Chinese those countries wont help rebuild Iran's air force in a million years as long as they maintain good relations with Israel.

the fact that Iran just signed a contract with Boeing to buy around a hundred airplanes just after the US court ruled that they should pay 10.5 billion dollars for the 9/11 attacks and the confiscation of 2 billion dollars of Iran's frozen assets due to another court ruling regarding the Beirut attacks proves that some politicians in Iran just don't get it that the only way iran can build a strong military capability is by relying on themselves and their home grown talent

Yes under ideal circumstances that's what Iran should be doing but unfortunately Iran is not under ideal circumstances and due to years of sections Iran has not been able to purchase any significant number of fighters for the past 40 years and the fact that Iranian engineers have been able to keep 40-50 year old American Aircraft flying for so long is nothing short of a miracle!!!! BUT the fact is, if Iran doesn't make a large purchase within the next decade or so Iran will be left with no Air Force to speak of. And unfortunately, Iran currently does not have the capability to build a large enough air force within that timespan. Hell, Iran can't even purchase aircrafts fast enough to even try to match the Saudi Air Force within the next decade let alone build them...

 

[ZAC1]

iran air force is no match to KSA air force.they should purchase new technology

 

[NaCon]

Yes under ideal circumstances that's what Iran should be doing but unfortunately Iran is not under ideal circumstances and due to years of sections Iran has not been able to purchase any significant number of fighters for the past 40 years and the fact that Iranian engineers have been able to keep 40-50 year old American Aircraft flying for so long is nothing short of a miracle!!!! BUT the fact is, if Iran doesn't make a large purchase within the next decade or so Iran will be left with no Air Force to speak of. And unfortunately, Iran currently does not have the capability to build a large enough air force within that timespan. Hell, Iran can't even purchase aircrafts fast enough to even try to match the Saudi Air Force within the next decade let alone build them...

Iran will never have the purchasing power that the Saudis have but that's not the point, Saudi Arabia is not a threat to Iran militarily and will never be in my opinion, but I digress. The only choice Iran has now for building an airforce is to start a serious fighter programm, not beg Russia to sell them aircraft that are substandard and are not gonna chalange the us airforce. mind you iran is capable of creating an interceptor aircraft that can defend its airspace.