Iraqi FM: Iran cuts flow of 42 river tributaries to Iraq without warning

[Saif al-Arab]

 

[SALMAN F]

Iraq used chemical weapons, beheadings, rape and burying alive of captives, attacking civilized aeroplanes. While a group of Iraqi soldiers were honourfull many were not. 50% of Baath party were Shia.
Iranian soldiers gave water to wounded Iraqis. Some Iraqi pows did not want to go back to Iraq after the war because of how good Iran treated them.

No it wasn't both saddam and Khomeini were shit when it comes to pows

Saddam used to give iranian pows to MEK/rajavi group for brain washing and khomeini did the same to iraqi pows by giving them to the dawah party and badr brigade to brainwashe them to turned them against their country

Also using pows for political proganda and forced labor or force them to do things against their will its violation against international laws and human rights which both saddam and Khomeini did

 

[Saif al-Arab]

Kuwait should be divided between KSA and Iraq. All those smaller GCC states should also be incorporated. Look at that freaking liability of Qatar and their whoring out to that Georgian uneducated populist that rules Turkey. If not for the US and Westerners being afraid/non wanting unity in the Arab world, that country would be eaten for lunch.

Saddam had his faults but his overall holy, sacred and eternal mission of moving the Arab world forward together is the only sane option. Unfortunately trash regimes like the Al-Assad (joke) prevented this among other issues.

But it will happen once again like it was the case for millennia when we were closely connected entities fighting off foreign barbarians and uncivilized hordes successfully.

When unity was lost we were overrun by barbarian Mongol hordes and the rest is history. Cannot happen again.

National states are fine and wonderful and all but look at the freaking larger picture and look which direction the world is moving toward.

Why not make even more Arab states? Let's have 40 states.

Make life even easier for regional meddling. I suggest creating a Nujaifistan for instance that is of mercy of the populist monkey Erdogan and let local kids waive Turkish flags, lol. Same can be done with the Mullah's in Najaf and Karbala. Make those cities separate entities.

Basrawis can copy Dubai, lol.

Instead let us obsess about events from 1400 years ago and discuss which sect we were born into, lol. I could not give a crap. Close all mosques, churches etc. and enforce atheism and secularism for a few years. The Chinese model. Maybe some of our monkeys will calm down and serious issues can be dealt with.

BTW I want my own little country to rule as well, lol. Play dictator and everything.

 

[Malik Alashter]

Iraq used chemical weapons, beheadings, rape and burying alive of captives, attacking civilized aeroplanes. While a group of Iraqi soldiers were honourfull many were not. 50% of Baath party were Shia.
Iranian soldiers gave water to wounded Iraqis. Some Iraqi pows did not want to go back to Iraq after the war because of how good Iran treated them.

Thats wrong you call the baath regime as Iraqis wrong doing no bro you don't know the top military officers are not even shia

Look during those days i was kid so i didn't understand but i know from their speak they were forced to go to that war
We didn't like to occupy Kuwait man we even didn't pray their because it's stolen land
We didn't want the war with Kurds they were and still our brothers

Lots of your thoughts are wrong.

 

[Saddam Hussein]

Iraq used chemical weapons, beheadings, rape and burying alive of captives, attacking civilized aeroplanes. While a group of Iraqi soldiers were honourfull many were not. 50% of Baath party were Shia.
Iranian soldiers gave water to wounded Iraqis. Some Iraqi pows did not want to go back to Iraq after the war because of how good Iran treated them.

As you stated, not 50 but infact more of the Ba'ath party were Shia as this party is a nationalist party. It was only till the IRI emerged and Saddam was removed from power that the de-baathification policy was launched and that sectarianism spread in Iraq. This is why I for the previous 6 pages have been explaining to you how destructive Iran has been to Iraq, and all you manage to mention is selling us a few arms and sending Ghassem the grandpa with outdated human wave military strategies on a tour in Iraq.

Iraqi soldiers also gave water to wounded Iranians, hence there were Iranian prisoners of war. Some Iranians didn't want to go back either, they decided to remain (MKO). You might argue that these are satan, but Badr and such are no different in my eyes.

Here you are (anti IRI) defending your regime and you wonder why it never falls. You ignore a major decision of Khomeini which led to the death of hundreds of thousands, that is rejecting the 1982 ceasefire proposal from Saddam.

Kuwait should be divided between KSA and Iraq. All those smaller GCC states should also be incorporated. Look at that freaking liability of Qatar and their whoring out to that Georgian uneducated populist that rules Turkey. If not for the US and Westerners being afraid/non wanting unity in the Arab world, that country would be eaten for lunch.

Saddam had his faults but his overall holy, sacred and eternal mission of moving the Arab world forward together is the only sane option. Unfortunately trash regimes like the Al-Assad (joke) prevented this among other issues.

But it will happen once again like it was the case for millennia when we were closely connected entities fighting off foreign barbarians and uncivilized hordes successfully.

When unity was lost we were overrun by barbarian Mongol hordes and the rest is history. Cannot happen again.

National states are fine and wonderful and all but look at the freaking larger picture and look which direction the world is moving toward.

Why not make even more Arab states? Let's have 40 states.

Make life even easier for regional meddling. I suggest creating a Nujaifistan for instance that is of mercy of the populist monkey Erdogan and let local kids waive Turkish flags, lol. Same can be done with the Mullah's in Najaf and Karbala. Make those cities separate entities.

Basrawis can copy Dubai, lol.

Instead let us obsess about events from 1400 years ago and discuss which sect we were born into, lol. I could not give a crap. Close all mosques, churches etc. and enforce atheism and secularism for a few years. The Chinese model. Maybe the monkeys will calm down and serious issues can be dealt with.

BTW I want my own little country to rule as well, lol. Play dictator and everything.

Nothing wrong with the Ba'ath party, infact Iran supports the Ba'ath party in Syria so I have the blessings of Khamenei himself. The problem of the ba'ath rule in place was not what the Ba'ath party stands for (Pan-Arabism, socialism etc. although some may disagree with the latter). The problem was its ruler, uneducated with a short-fuse, brutality and lack of strategic planning which led to his demise. Other then that he knew the enemies well and recognized that unlike the current Iraqi government which for over a decade was pleasing Kurds, who can imagine that. The recent trashing of November 2017 was not enough.

Indeed it is time to return to the 'good old days', although this time with a sane leader that doesn't throw you off a building. Now speaking of brutality, Iran hangs people by cranes and lifts them up, stones women and does a lot more, don't need any lecturing from IRI defenders.

 

[Malik Alashter]

I know the old regime is responsible to what happening in Iraq today but Iraqis are also responsible

If we blame saddam for the Kurds,Iranians,Kuwaitis and turks then why today Kuwaitis are stealing iraqi oil and lands with Iranians?!

Also Kuwait problem goes back to the monarchy era nothing new the thing that happened they pushed Iraq for war against iran and supporting it with money and weapon supplies after the war was over Iraq needed money but Kuwaitis were lowering the oil prices when Iraq needed to sell oil with high prices. They also asked for the money that they gave to Iraq as support and they considered it a debt,saddam told them this money you gave me was price from protecting you from iran the Kuwaitis said no this money we gave you was protect you and Iraq from falling to iran.

Now saddam is gone why Kuwaitis still hate Iraq and try to harm it?!

As for the Kurds they were and still pieces of shit you saw what they did last year also when isis took over instead of helping they used it as opportunity to steal lands they were the one who attack the iraqi governments in the past from the monarchy to now.


They and iran loyalists were behind the destruction on the military and security institutions when the Americans toppled saddam regime the Kurds and iran loyalists wanted to purge the army and the security officers under the name purge the baath party

First of all we have to agree that Saddams days were no good at all after that we can talk about the Iraqis and the new regime in Baghdad

I never said Kuwaitis are good I mean their regime no they are bad and tools

I didn't say Iranian are angels no they're not but we can stop them just like any one in the region yet their policy towards less harming than that of our Arab brothers these are the enemy

The kurds have right yes we don't like it but they still have some tights we need to address that and deal with it
We should ask them either you accept being Iraqis and live under the central government umbrella or give Independence and then they face it alone.

But Im with you our lot not really competent nor free to take the decision

 

[SALMAN F]

I was the one who posted in video on others
Like these
@Saif al-Arab

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ERsC2Qg7I9A

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qLC1m4pVVjM

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=jhb82j5z9qM

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dobeuCgZUNQ

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=kBEeJJezSjI

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=bkzaPbvhmSI

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=X1lDFiwc0To

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=jqLfXy5rgcg

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ly3kpL2ww3U

 

[Saif al-Arab]

As you stated, not 50 but infact more of the Ba'ath party were Shia as this party is a nationalist party. It was only till the IRI emerged and Saddam was removed from power that the de-baathification policy was launched and that sectarianism spread in Iraq. This is why I for the previous 6 pages have been explaining to you how destructive Iran has been to Iraq, and all you manage to mention is selling us a few arms and sending Ghassem the grandpa with outdated human wave military strategies on a tour in Iraq.

Iraqi soldiers also gave water to wounded Iranians, hence there were Iranian prisoners of war. Some Iranians didn't want to go back either, they decided to remain (MKO). You might argue that these are satan, but Badr and such are no different in my eyes.

Here you are (anti IRI) defending your regime and you wonder why it never falls. You ignore a major decision of Khomeini which led to the death of hundreds of thousands, that is rejecting the 1982 ceasefire proposal from Saddam.



Nothing wrong with the Ba'ath party, infact Iran supports the Ba'ath party in Syria so I have the blessings of Khamenei himself. The problem of the ba'ath rule in place was not what the Ba'ath party stands for (Pan-Arabism, socialism etc. although some may disagree with the latter). The problem was its ruler, uneducated with a short-fuse, brutality and lack of strategic planning which led to his demise. Other then that he knew the enemies well and recognized that unlike the current Iraqi government which for over a decade was pleasing Kurds, who can imagine that. The recent trashing of November 2017 was not enough.

Indeed it is time to return to the 'good old days', although this time with a sane leader that doesn't throw you off a building. Now speaking of brutality, Iran hangs people by cranes and lifts them up, stones women and does a lot more, don't need any lecturing from IRI defenders.

Let's create a new ideology suited to the modern world; Arab cooperation (regional in other words), educational, economic, trade, SCIENTIFIC (one of the biggest budgets after the education and health ministries should be allocated for science), infrastructure, military etc. Economic model should be the one that has proven to work the best. A welfare state with a significant public sector (but not too big) and a significant creative, hard-working private sector (almost 50-50 or something close), promoting idiotic and self-harming policies should be punished heavily/be banned, sectarianism should likewise be punished harsh, religious talk in public should be banned completely, all clerics (regardless of sect) should be monitored and approved by an independent state body to ensure the prevention of such harmful influences etc.

Such relatively simple steps could save a lot of headache.

Unfortunately monkeys among us prefer wasting their times on self-destructing, irrelevant issues that occurred 1400 years ago and do everything to prevent unity as in the good old days (pre-modern period) because they want their little own entity to "mast******" to which is fine and all but if you forget the wider picture, you are just harming yourself and your country.

Such simple things. Imagine an ethnic group out there with a similar size of Arabs (only Han Chinese are more in numbers and look at them), with this tremendous potential, civilization (second to none), historical influence, strategic location, resources etc. which almost everything in common but with such trash leaders, clerics etc. that cannot realize what most sane Arabs can before they reach adulthood. Geographically connected to. I can take my racing bike (LOL) and bicycle all the way from Surat in Oman to Rabat in Morocco and I will not leave an Arab country even for a single second!

They need the great Chinese president Xi Jinping to tell it to them (like so many before him and after him will) in 30 minute long speeches like yesterday during the 8th Arab-Sino meeting.

Let us hope that China will influence the Arab world heavily and their great model.

BTW, no oppression of Muslims in China at all.

BTW Xi Jinping already told it to them years ago but it seems that they are representing the monkeys among us.

2.5 years ago during an Arab League summit.

Time to create a secret society that will work to infiltrate all Arab governments which rational nationalists so we eventually take over power and begin what should have begun ages ago. That's how the Ba'ath Party succeeded unfortunately the time, region, outside influences hindered this process.

However what I have mentioned will occur eventually naturally (more or less) but this could happen PEACEFULLY today if sanity prevailed.

P.S: The Arab League PREDATES the freaking UN. Let that sink in.

 

[Malik Alashter]

Such simple things. Imagine an ethnic group out there with a similar size of Arabs which almost everything in common and the trash leaders, clerics etc. cannot realize it yet.

Your Lot will never ever accept such unity among arab their job is to keep it like that

The best we can dream of is some cooperation in trade

 

[Saddam Hussein]

First of all we have to agree that Saddams days were no good at all after that we can talk about the Iraqis and the new regime in Baghdad

I never said Kuwaitis are good I mean their regime no they are bad and tools

I didn't say Iranian are angels no they're not but we can stop them just like any one in the region yet their policy towards less harming than that of our Arab brothers these are the enemy

The kurds have right yes we don't like it but they still have some tights we need to address that and deal with it
We should ask them either you accept being Iraqis and live under the central government umbrella or give Independence and then they face it alone.

But Im with you our lot not really competent nor free to take the decision

Giving Kurds independence means you give Israel's military an airbase/missile base right next to your border, they and their strong influence in the US means you not only place Iraq in major danger, you do the same to Turkey and Iran which will cause some major regional problems. They won't get independence for that very reason, even if Iraq gives it Turkey wouldn't allow it.

 

[Malik Alashter]

Giving Kurds independence means you give Israel's military an airbase/missile base right next to your border, they and their strong influence in the US means you not only place Iraq in major danger, you do the same to Turkey and Iran which will cause some major regional problems. They won't get independence for that very reason, even if Iraq gives it Turkey wouldn't allow it.

Then let them deal with Turk and the Iranian when a sheep leave the cattle it will be a prey to the scavengers if they want be like that then let it be not of our business

 

[Saif al-Arab]

Your Lot will never ever accept such unity among arab their job is to keep it like that

The best we can dream of is some cooperation in trade

What lot? The same lot as you.

That is already happening and much more. Status quo is satisfying and would be satisfying for most people and regions but we cannot be satisfied with mediocrity considering our glorious history and enormous potential. Those words might be big but they are facts and should be spoken about openly yet few of the leaders do so as their future depends on the status quo which is unsatisfying. This "hiding" nonsense and not speaking the truth in order not to offend some foreigners and I don't know what or native monkeys, is irrelevant.

What I wrote will offend many so-called "holy men" that preach all day long but never follow their own preaching. We all know those "holy warriors", their political parties, their populism, their programs online, their Twitter accounts etc. It's a joke largely and the same outside of the Arab world. Why continue this failure?

Those who do not want unity with their own brethren and do what is in their OWN best interests, I suggest they migrate elsewhere. We can repatriate some of the 40-50 million Arabs (one of the largest diasporas in the world) back home and it's not like numbers are or ever will be a problem to begin with.

In fact the problematic monkeys should be sent abroad. Let Turkey or regional countries take them in hope of trying to get influence in the Arab world haha. You already saw that moronic and deluded Turkish moderator (LOL) that barely writes English in action in this thread below;

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/erdo...shed-business-with-saudi-arabia.565252/page-7

@Malik Alashter @SALMAN F @OutOfAmmo

It was a mistake that our ancestors Arabized and Islamized those people. They should have worshipped their Siberian pagan religions that they would share with today's Eskimos. Abrahamic religions are best suited for Abrahamic/Semitic people.

For instance I would prefer the mostly Christian Latin Arabs on many fronts to replace some of the local monkeys who are obsessed about what occurred 1400 years ago (which occurred always in history - power games). Forget about this or keep it personal. You were not there and can't change anything. Let it be God's job. We don't need to hear about your interpretations 1400 years later and who is wrong etc. when none of us had anything to do with it.

Take the good and leave the outdated nonsense/bad influences. Should be very simple.

I was the one who posted in video on others
Like these
@Saif al-Arab

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qLC1m4pVVjM

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=jhb82j5z9qM

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dobeuCgZUNQ

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=kBEeJJezSjI

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=bkzaPbvhmSI

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=X1lDFiwc0To

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=jqLfXy5rgcg

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ly3kpL2ww3U

 

[Saddam Hussein]

Then let them deal with Turk and the Iranian when a sheep leave the cattle it will be a prey to the scavengers if they want be like that then let it be not of our business

They will not get any independence, Iraq's army should push forward to take more area's. Let the lawless PKK area's be handled by Turkey. Kurdistan supported ISIS in 2013 hosting Ali Hatem Suleiman.

 

[Saif al-Arab]

They will not get any independence, Iraq's army should push forward to take more area's. Let the lawless PKK area's be handled by Turkey. Kurdistan supported ISIS in 2013 hosting Ali Hatem Suleiman.

Let Turkey give independence for the Arabs of Hatay and Southern Turkey, Assyrians, let them give independence to the Kurds, Armenians, Georgians, Greeks and others. Let Iran give independence to Iranian Arabs, Assyrians, Kurds, Baloch, Azeris, Turkmen, Lurs etc.

Those two meddling entities have no problem with creating smaller states in Syria and Iraq or support stateless Kurdish monkey dictators (Barzanistan, PUK or PUKE as I call them) but let them do what they preach themselves in their own land.

Or this Afrin joke. It's Syrian land. No Turkey there. Shall not be accepted. Hopefully Al-Assad (as much as I consider it a trash regime) overruns that joke of a tiny entity. Almost every sane Syrian, let alone an nationalist, cannot look at this with good eyes.

Talking about Syria is a bit hopeless as the Al-Assad regime (trash) handed over their country to foreigners instead of cleaning the top of the regime in order to satisfy the people or change their policies. It could have ended relatively peacefully and without this horrible mess. For what exactly? To create another Israel in the region, more regional meddling? Those idiots involved in this fiasco should be executed or deported immediately and stripped of their Syrian citizenship!

This is another example of the current joke reality that two tiny entities (compared to the Arab world) have done what they have done. Largely Islamized and Arabized entities that have been influenced by Arabs much more than vice versa to make it even funnier and more tragicomic.

Nothing against the average person in those two nations but if Arab states pursued similar policies, they would be complaining too. Let's not be hypocritical here.

It was non-existent pre-2003 and when Syria was stable. Everyone can meddle in states at war or conflict.

 

[Malik Alashter]

They will not get any independence, Iraq's army should push forward to take more area's. Let the lawless PKK area's be handled by Turkey. Kurdistan supported ISIS in 2013 hosting Ali Hatem Suleiman.

Israel with all the support it gets from the west still doesn't dare to attack gaza with full scale war simply they respect the life of their soldiers while you want our soldiers involve in guerrilla war that's a big NO

We need to care about our men our soldiers their life matter
Kurds after the slam of Kirkuk retreat their ego to the normal level

We need to develop an autonomous war machines or buy them to do the job