Iraq: 21 ISIS Die as terrorists Accidently Blow Themselves Up in training

[Arabian Legend]

I didn't read rest of your post after seeing this first sentence which shows that you are failing so bad in this argument that jump from one topic to another contradicting yourself. This is too stupid.
So it's not worth my time arguing with you anymore.

Of course you won't, that what happens every time you left speechless.

Smoothly retreated.

View attachment 16892 what about this terrorist trained by indian RAW inventer of suicide bombing in subcontinent

He must have imported the recipe form Ayto Khomeini.

 

[Serpentine]

Of course you won't, that what happens every time you left speechless.

Smoothly retreated.

If that makes you feel like a winner in real life.

 

[Doritos11]

@Arabian Legend

You do realize that kid isn’t even the first suicide bomber, in WW2 many, so many that they didn’t even count or register it soldiers put C4 bombs on tanks to explode them, sometimes lacking the time to get away and they died themselves = suicide operation, known and accepted by them.
In Lebanon they did the same against Israel in the 80’s, ( Not Shias ) so that you can’t use it for your propaganda.

None of that is terrorism, it’s fighting an armed enemy in a war on the front line, however you Saudis are here to call others terrorists and talk about AQ while the Saudis in Guantanamo list is one of the longest.
Saudi detainees at Guantanamo Bay - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Your scholars spread all kinds of terrorism and hatred around the world.
Many vids of Saudis in ISIS, 1 that were released by the Saudi state to fight in Syria after captured in Iraq and returned to the Saudis.
Saudi who fought in Iraq now in Syria | Kingdom | Saudi Gazette

That shows the state sent all their trash to Syria trying the same as in the 80’s vs the Soviets,
but not anymore since ISIS started to **** them all up.

Now have fun with this list as well, that overwhelms the list Serpentine gave you of terrorist attacks, that must mean you’ve motivated a lot.
List of militant incidents in Saudi Arabia - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[al-Hasani]

@Doritos11

Blowing yourself up knowing that you are going to die (basically committing suicide) is a suicide bombing. The thousands upon thousands of kamikaze pilots who blew themselves up where also suicide bombers. Same with the hundreds if not thousands of Tamil Tigers. Who are you fooling by stating otherwise?

Still does not change the fact that it was Shia groups, supported by the Mullah regime, that first started to use suicide bombings systematically in the region.

Oh, so the people who blew themselves up among American soldiers was also just an act of war? Your logic, as usual, is inconsistent.

133 detaines is nothing. Not even the most. Over half of them were released because they were not guilty of anything.

Out of those 17 remain that have not been held accountable for anything. Big pfucking deal.

Oh, so one returned?

The rehabilitation programs for the few hundred individuals have been a big success. Only like 2-3% of the former detainees return to what they were doing before.

We salute all Muslims who went to Afghanistan to fight against tyranny and to defend fellow Muslims. From all over the Arab and Muslim world. You seem to have a problem with this for some reason. Those people are not comparable to your ISIS.

Yes, so in the past 50 years about 230 people have died in KSA due to terrorist attacks about 33% terrorists themselves.

4-5 more Iraqis have died in just last month alone. Yet alone in the past 50 years due to terrorism/separatism/wars/ethnic conflicts etc.

Don't make me laugh and give me a break and get a cure for your KSA obsession, man.

@Arabian Legend

 

[Doritos11]

@Doritos11

Blowing yourself up knowing that you are going to die (basically committing suicide) is a suicide bombing. The thousands upon thousands of kamikaze pilots who blew themselves up where also suicide bombers. Same with the hundreds if not thousands of Tamil Tigers. Who are you fooling by stating otherwise?

Still does not change the fact that it was Shia groups, supported by the Mullah regime, that first started to use suicide bombings systematically in the region.

Oh, so the people who blew themselves up among American soldiers was also just an act of war? Your logic, as usual, is inconsistent.

133 detaines is nothing. Not even the most. Over half of them were released because they were not guilty of anything.

Out of those 17 remain that have not been held accountable for anything. Big pfucking deal.

Oh, so one returned?

The rehabilitation programs for the few hundred individuals have been a big success. Only like 2-3% of the former detainees return to what they were doing before.

We salute all Muslims who went to Afghanistan to fight against tyranny and to defend fellow Muslims. From all over the Arab and Muslim world. You seem to have a problem with this for some reason. Those people are not comparable to your ISIS.

Yes, so in the past 50 years about 230 people have died in KSA due to terrorist attacks about 33% terrorists themselves.

4-5 more Iraqis have died in just last month alone. Yet alone in the past 50 years due to terrorism/separatism/wars/ethnic conflicts etc.

Don't make me laugh and give me a break and get a cure for your KSA obsession, man.

@Arabian Legend

No obsession, it’s a respond to 'Legends' bullshit.

 

[Arabian Legend]

No obsession, it’s a respond to 'Legends' bullshit.

Al-hasani already put you in your place. So no need for any further reply. What had that kid done was nothing but a suicide bombing without No IF SO BUT.

 

[Doritos11]

Al-hasani already put you in your place. So no need for any further reply. What had that kid done was nothing but a suicide bombing without No IF SO BUT.

I can actually respond but not feeling like writing that much.

What that kid did isn’t shameful + it was in a war on the front of the battlefield, not some city.

A suicide attack against civilians is what’s shameful, Al Qaeda.

 

[Arabian Legend]

I can actually respond but not feeling like writing that much.

Whether you respond or not will be put again in your place with your Khomeini brethren.

What that kid did isn’t shameful + it was in a war on the front of the battlefield, not some city.

Anyone blow himself up in any case is a suicide bomber. Get that straight.

A suicide attack against civilians is what’s shameful, Al Qaeda.

Any attack against civilians by any means is nothing but a shameful act.

 

[al-Hasani]

I can actually respond but not feeling like writing that much.

What that kid did isn’t shameful + it was in a war on the front of the battlefield, not some city.

A suicide attack against civilians is what’s shameful, Al Qaeda.

Yes, it is shameful that a 13 year old boy has to blow himself up and commit suicide which it was. More so that he is somehow considered a "hero". Messed up. No matter who he blow himself up among. Still a intentional suicide. Same with the kamikaze, Tamil Tigers etc.

Al-Qaeda believe that they are fighting a war and they only blow themselves up against countries that have invaded Muslim countries or during armed conflicts. Lastly not all blow themselves up among civilians. Many have blown themselves up amongst American soldiers as an act of war.

All of them are committing intentional suicide by blowing themselves up. The fact that blowing yourself up amongst civilian is more wrong/horrible does not change the nature of a suicide attack.

In Syria there have maybe been 3-4 suicide bombings on solely civilian areas. Most of the 20-30 suicide bombings have hit military installations and not civilians. Not that they become better for that reason.

Islam clearly prohibits suicide so whoever does it is not mentally sane and cannot use Islam as an disguise.

 

[anonymus]

Yes, it is shameful that a 13 year old boy has to blow himself up and commit suicide which it was. More so that he is somehow considered a "hero". Messed up. No matter who he blow himself up among. Still a intentional suicide. Same with the kamikaze, Tamil Tigers etc.

Al-Qaeda believe that they are fighting a war and they only blow themselves up against countries that have invaded Muslim countries or during armed conflicts. Lastly not all blow themselves up among civilians. Many have blown themselves up amongst American soldiers as an act of war.

All of them are committing intentional suicide by blowing themselves up. The fact that blowing yourself up amongst civilian is more wrong/horrible does not change the nature of a suicide attack.

In Syria there have maybe been 3-4 suicide bombings on solely civilian areas. Most of the 20-30 suicide bombings have hit military installations and not civilians. Not that they become better for that reason.

Islam clearly prohibits suicide so whoever does it is not mentally sane and cannot use Islam as an disguise.

The point you are making is rhetorical and based on semantics. There is no reason that that boy should not be considered as a hero. You may criticize mullah regime for employing child soldiers but not that boy for blowing himself up. The moral equivalence you are trying to establish between this act and al-qaida is a false equivalence. On is an act of war against armed adversary in order to achieve tactical or strategic objective while another is aimed at instilling fear by indiscriminate targeting of civilians even though both incidents may have etymological equivalence.


A lot of actions in war are de-facto suicide even though killing oneself was never the intent. Attacking Aircraft carriers is one of them. In battle of midway while attacking Japanese carriers, three waves of american strike force were cut down before fourth one succeeded and that success was possible because Japanese planes defending their carriers has descended to low altitude in order to defend against third wave of torpedo bombers which was launched from midway island thus leaving skies clear for Dive bombers from American Aircraft carriers to strike at Japanese carriers.Going against aircraft carriers even today is practically suicidal.So is a infantry charge against armor and any engagement in which you are heavily outnumbered. Kamikaze may be commiting suicide by ramming their planes in USN AC's but chances of their survival without that were also close to zero.

Equating British light cavalry and defenders of Iwo-Jima with Al-qaida baboons is morally egregious.

 

[al-Hasani]

@anonymus

Absolutely bullshit. I am not comparing anything or downplaying anything. Are you reading my post? A intentional suicide is a suicide. Whether you blow yourself up among American soldiers, civilians or other soldiers during conflicts/wars. That's the point I am trying to make. What is the difference between "Jihadist" suicide bombers and the Tamil Tigers for instance? There is none other than the targets but both parties are blowing themselves up intentionally thus committing suicide.

Al-Qaeda are at war according to themselves and are targeting their enemies. They are also engaged in conflict zones. Al-Qaeda members blowing themselves up in Iraq to kill American soldiers (when they were there) or civilians are no different from Kamikaze blowing themselves up during combat among American soldiers. By the virtue of their action. Of course, as I already wrote, blowing yourself up while targeting civilians is not the same as targeting "enemies" but the action is the same. The victims are just different.

Of course if you insists on operating about what is honorable or not then most would agree, including myself, that it is better to blow yourself up in direct combat and not among civilians but this is not going to change the fact that a individual is blowing himself up. Thus committing intentional suicide.

There is nothing brave about this. Every idiot can blow himself up in a plane or with explosives if brainwashed enough. Give me a break.

Lastly and most importantly intentional suicide is prohibited in Islam and even simply logic should be against it.

If you consider a 13 year old suicide bomber a hero then so be it. I guess most people of the world have a different opinion about that.

 

[SALMAN F]

To hell inshallah Wahhabi terrorists

إلى جهنم الحين بجهنم يأكلون من شجرة الزقوم مع أبو لهب و أبو جهل و يزيد و فرعون و هامان
أولاد الزواني الكلاب

 

[Informant]

Achievement Unlocked: Self Destruct

 

[Doritos11]

If you consider a 13 year old suicide bomber a hero then so be it. I guess most people of the world have a different opinion about that.

Like he said.

Iraq had Fedayeen brigades, even small kids who gave their lifes.
I agree it is dirty and not normal, but with the story of that kid I understand he is seen as a hero, he stopped an entire tank column from advancing, at least if that was from our side he’d be regarded a hero as well.

 

[al-Hasani]

Like he said.

Iraq had Fedayeen brigades, even small kids who gave their lifes.
I agree it is dirty and not normal, but with the story of that kid I understand he is seen as a hero, he stopped an entire tank column from advancing, at least if that was from our side he’d be regarded a hero as well.

As I wrote of course that action is more "honorable" than blowing yourself up amongst innocent civilians. That is evident. But I am against suicide bombings and suicide in general in ALL circumstances. I believe it is wrong. Islam forbids this as well as do common sense.

There is absolutely nothing honorable about a 13 year old boy blowing himself up intentionally.

I mean don't you think it is wrong and shameful that a 13 year old even comes in this situation let alone blows himself up?
I cannot imagine my little sister or little brother blowing themselves up in that age no matter what the situation is.

Why can't people fight face to face anymore?

It has also become more and more common for whole groups of people to attack 1 person etc. I have seen this in the metro and train station across the world.