What's new

Iran’s Game-Changing Rapid-Fire Underground Missile Base

https://join.popularmechanics.com/p...088&cds_mag_code=POP&cds_tracking_code=topnav


Iran's New Underground Missile Base Looks Mildly Terrifying. See for Yourself.
It's a bit like a Bond villain lair, only much more dangerous.
BY KYLE MIZOKAMI
NOV 5, 2020

underground missile base in iran

YOUTUBE/IMA MEDIA
  • A new video shows an underground missile complex somewhere in Iran.
  • The missiles, known as Emads, appear to be loaded on a “clip” that allows Iran to fire the missiles in quick succession.
  • The missiles have the range to attack many of Iran’s regional enemies, including Israel, Iraq, and Saudi Arabia, as well as American military bases in the area.
An underground missile base lurking somewhere beneath Iran looks an awful lot like a James Bond villain lair, complete with walls carved out of rock, spotlights, and a promise of “severe revenge.”


The base, featured in the YouTube video below, includes rows of Emad missiles and what appears to be an underground rail system, allowing missiles to be fired rapidly from a protected position.
This content is imported from YouTube. You may be able to find the same content in another format, or you may be able to find more information, at their web site.


The video, shot in an undisclosed location in Iran, shows off one of the country’s underground missile sites. We've seen such silos before; past videos usually show rows of missiles lining underground shafts, as well as missile-launching trucks. In that respect, the new video isn't wildly different from the rest.
YOU'LL LOVE THIS

Inside the CIA Plan to Steal Soviet Missile Data

However, the new clip does appear to reveal new, silo-based launch systems. You can see stockpiled Emad (“pillar” in Farsi) missiles being loaded horizontally onto what looks to be some kind of underground rail system. In the video, five Emad missiles are closely spaced on the rail system, then roll farther down a tunnel shaft.




The system likely uses a rail system rather than truck transport to avoid missiles loaded with liquid rocket fuel and highly explosive warheads from accidentally careening into the tunnel wall.
emad

Emad missiles loaded vertically on the rail systems

The exact launch system isn’t shown, but a clear implication is that the rail system is driven underneath a silo door leading to the surface. A missile is fired through the hole, the rail car advances to position the next missile, and on and on until all missiles are fired.
Why would Iran do this? It could allow a single silo to launch many missiles in quick succession, more than an anti-ballistic missile defense system can handle. The Emad missile is also liquid-fueled, and must be fueled up before launch. Fueling and launching several missiles from one central missile complex is logistically much simpler than building multiple silos, each with its own missile fuel tanks.
emad

Missile rail tracks, presumably leading to the launch location
But there are downsides to this system. If there’s an accident involving one missile, the resulting explosion could affect the rest of the missiles loaded on the missile training, with varying degrees of “uh-oh” depending on whether those missiles are armed and loaded with fuel. Another problem: If adversaries successfully locate and target the silo entrance, destroying it could trap many missiles underground, unable to fire
The Emad missile, according to Missile Threat, has a range of 1,065 miles. It has a circular error probable of 1,640 feet, meaning half of the Emads launched at a target will land within 1,640 feet of the target. (The other half will miss by a greater margin.) The missile can carry a payload of 1,650 pounds, likely a single large highly explosive warhead or a warhead composed of many tennis-ball sized cluster bombs.


emad

Emad missile launch from an above ground launch location.
MISSILE DEFENSE ADVOCACY AGENCY
A range of 1,065 miles puts a number of Iran’s regional adversaries at risk, including Israel, Iraq, Saudi Arabia, and the United Arab Emirates. It also puts U.S. forces in Iraq, the U.S. Navy’s Fifth Fleet headquarters in Bahrain, and the U.S. Air Force’s sprawling air bases at Al-Udeid in Qatar and Al Dhafra in the UAE in the crosshairs. However, Israel’s David’s Sling and the American Terminal High Altitude Area Defense (THAAD) and Patriot PAC-3 anti-ballistic missile systems could shoot down an Emad.




Already a thread on it. You're late.
 
.
no around 60% is produced from scratch

67% according to the quoted source above.


This is false. Iran may be importing various raw materials in order to synthesise the Active Pharmaceutic Ingredients (API) etc, but that's not the same thing as them importing the API and just formulating the final end product. I work in the pharmacy sector and have contacts in Iran in this field and I can say from experience that trying to export even APIs to Iran is hindered by sanctions. Even regarding the actual raw ingredients, Iran is now producing most of them internally:




67% is certainly an impressive industrial and scientific achievement. I don't exactly know how many countries domestically produce more than this, but they won't be so numerous. Also this percentage is only set to increase with time.

It already helps Iran weather the sanctions much better than she would if a political system other than the Islamic Republic, less focused on self-sufficiency was in charge.

Also before lamenting the remaining 33%, one ought to research how many of those drugs not produced by Iran owe their authorization by regulators worldwide to "ghostwiting" and similar fraudulent practices of the corporate pharmaceutical industries, particularly in the west.

The merger of business and science (which then practically ceases to be science, really) is a total catastrophy. Of course it'd hardly be an exaggeration to suggest that the western-apologetic, ultra-liberal reformist and centrist politicians in Iran would probably volunteer to embrace the import of any and all products offered by international pharmaceutical giants with little regard for possible adverse risks to public health resulting from these corporations' priorities, which nowadays value profit over the common good.

Thank God the Supreme Leader and IRGC are there to impose certain red lines on the liberals.
 
Last edited:
.
67% according to the quoted source above.




67% is certainly an impressive industrial and scientific achievement. I don't exactly know how many countries domestically produce more than this, but they won't be so numerous. Also this percentage is only set to increase with time.

It already helps Iran weather the sanctions much better than she would if a political system other than the Islamic Republic, less focused on self-sufficiency was in charge.

Also before lamenting the remaining 33%, one ought to research how many of those drugs not produced by Iran owe their authorization by regulators worldwide to "ghostwiting" and similar fraudulent practices of the corporate pharmaceutical industries, particularly in the west.

The merger of business and science (which then practically ceases to be science, really) is a total catastrophy. Of course it'd hardly be an exaggeration to suggest that the western-apologetic, ultra-liberal reformist and centrist politicians in Iran would probably volunteer to embrace the import of any and all products offered by international pharmaceutical giants with little regard for possible adverse risks to public health resulting from these corporations' priorities, which nowadays value profit over the common good.

Thank God the Supreme Leader and IRGC are there to impose certain red lines on the liberals.
my problem is not with the percentage but with the type , I like we produce life saving drugs from scratch here , but when you look at the list you see for life saving drugs we rely on foreign bases and what we produce from scratch are more in line with palliative ones .

let tell what I have problem with . its three years that each year somebody from health ministry come and promise influenza vaccine for the next year and each year I look at drugstores and see vaccines from France , Netherlands and Italy and this year I heard even about Korean Vaccine .
I wonder after what happened to hemophilia patients why we must still trust France for medical supply
 
.
Not only on the Rocket-Underground-Station. (Which should be standard by every country imo)

But let us take this "Underground" stuff more seriously.
I always thought about that, that 50% of your military construction should be done UNDERGROUND.
For sure, these workers recieve more pay.
And that you have an Army/Airforce-Equipment (except Maritime units) have it's size (100% equipped)
BUT 50% of the same equipment of your divisions/wings as reserves always ready to serve underground, with all things which are important for them and couldn't be replaced very fast under harsh (conventional) strikes against important installations above ground.
It's a cool strategy imo.
Why taking the risk ...
Same with hangars, harden them, sure, but you can destroy them.
Make them underground ffs, with several entrances and only runways can be "f'cked" when your AA is destroyed... underground-military-city.
And now combine that with "Iranian trench" system, AA from hidden trenches, not only small harassing units or 1-2 tanks...
 
.
Totally bizarre Hollywood-style crap! Iran might murder a few thousand Jews with its missiles, but, after that, monumental destruction will rain down on Qom and Teheran.
 
.
Totally bizarre Hollywood-style crap! Iran might murder a few thousand Jews with its missiles, but, after that, monumental destruction will rain down on Qom and Teheran.
well if we are going down we take everyone down with us, its the same mentality as of USA and Israel mass distraction for everyone involved in the war
 
.
Totally bizarre Hollywood-style crap! Iran might murder a few thousand Jews with its missiles, but, after that, monumental destruction will rain down on Qom and Teheran.

Those missiles are aimed at Saudi Arabia most likely, don't expect any to target Israel. Iranian's and Israeli's have indirect understandings that they won't destroy each other for the benefit of some Arab and Turkish Islamist's.

LOL, at 1:35 one of the missiles has 'UAE' printed on it.

well if we are going down we take everyone down with us, its the same mentality as of USA and Israel mass distraction for everyone involved in the war

That's not the mentality Iran showed following killing of it's general. I think more likely Iran will lash out at Saudi Arabia and Iran/Israel gonna avoid confrontation. Keep in mind Russia would be a player in all of this considering their role in Syria and the greater region.
 
.
Those missiles are aimed at Saudi Arabia most likely, don't expect any to target Israel. Iranian's and Israeli's have indirect understandings that they won't destroy each other for the benefit of some Arab and Turkish Islamist's.

LOL, at 1:35 one of the missiles has 'UAE' printed on it.



That's not the mentality Iran showed following killing of it's general. I think more likely Iran will lash out at Saudi Arabia and Iran/Israel gonna avoid confrontation. Keep in mind Russia would be a player in all of this considering their role in Syria and the greater region.
Iranians in general are not genocidal so the targets will be strategic and i don't think Iran will hit SA if its attacked by US
 
.
PS: US estimates Iran has around 2,000 ballistic missiles total. Most are shorter/medium range. Can reach neighboring nations of Iran but not many can reach Israel which is why they arm Hezbollah.

Iranians in general are not genocidal so the targets will be strategic and i don't think Iran will hit SA if its attacked by US

You don't think they will target the SA? I think a given is they will use Iraqi proxies to strike US targets in Iraq and they might themselves too. After that I'm not sure how it would play out, but it won't be good for Trump as he will plunge US into civil strife if he tries to remain in power and they will be busy trying to impeach him. Which is why I say Iran might see it as opportunity to settle scores with SA while US is distracted.
 
.
Those missiles are aimed at Saudi Arabia most likely, don't expect any to target Israel. Iranian's and Israeli's have indirect understandings that they won't destroy each other for the benefit of some Arab and Turkish Islamist's.
What is the source of this arab conspiracy theory? The treasonous arab nations who have normalized and formed alliance with Israel now come up with conspiracies and propaganda that theres a secret hollywood movie like deal between Iran and Israel. Thats the brain of the people that opposes the Iranian agenda. So you can imagine the path they are on.
 
.
PS: US estimates Iran has around 2,000 ballistic missiles total. Most are shorter/medium range. Can reach neighboring nations of Iran but not many can reach Israel which is why they arm Hezbollah.



You don't think they will target the SA? I think a given is they will use Iraqi proxies to strike US targets in Iraq and they might themselves too. After that I'm not sure how it would play out, but it won't be good for Trump as he will plunge US into civil strife if he tries to remain in power and they will be busy trying to impeach him. Which is why I say Iran might see it as opportunity to settle scores with SA while US is distracted.
yes i really believe Iran will not hit SA just US base there but thats it in case of war Iran wants SA as natural as possible
 
.
What is the source of this arab conspiracy theory? The treasonous arab nations who have normalized and formed alliance with Israel now come up with conspiracies and propaganda that theres a secret hollywood movie like deal between Iran and Israel. Thats the brain of the people that opposes the Iranian agenda. So you can imagine the path they are on.

Lol, what conspiracy? Since when UAE and Bahrain represent or lead Arabs? Do Lebanese, Algerians, Egyptians, Palestinians, Yemeni's, Moroccans and Tunisians have alliance with Israel? What do you see as conspiracy? Iran and Israel never gonna get into all out war with each other. They will not weaken each other for sake as some 'Wahabi's' like Iran like to call them. They indirectly need each other in the region. Iran has not matched its rhetoric against Israel/USA through actions on the ground by even 1%.

I can guarantee you they will exclusively target Saudi Arabia and Gulf nations in the event of US strike on nuclear program. Jews and Iranians have no want to go to war with each other and they see themselves as similar people facing similar threats with similar drives and ambitions.

Btw, genius, those Arabs do not share my mindset or views, and they falling easily into the trap laid out for them. If they thought like me, Iran would be an isolated power in the region.

yes i really believe Iran will not hit SA just US base there but thats it in case of war Iran wants SA as natural as possible

I respect you but I think you underestimate the amount of hatred your government has for Saudi Arabia and 'Wahabi's'. They will exclusively target Saudi's and Gulf Arabs if US did embark on a strike on Iranian nuclear program. They allude to this themselves and based off their actions following Trump withdrawal from nuclear deal, we can say that this is what is going to happen. Israel is going to be spared and US position will be an uncertain one because of Trump intentions and the elections drama. Both Iran and Israel gonna make gains in such a war in my assessment. If it were to happen.
 
Last edited:
.
Lol, what conspiracy? Since when UAE and Bahrain represent or lead Arabs? Do Lebanese, Algerians, Egyptians, Palestinians, Yemeni's, Moroccans and Tunisians have alliance with Israel? What do you see as conspiracy? Iran and Israel never gonna get into all out war with each other. They will not weaken each other for sake as some 'Wahabi's' like Iran like to call them. They indirectly need each other in the region. Iran has not matched its rhetoric against Israel/USA through actions on the ground by even 1%.
Iran never fired a shot at Israel? Hey, ever heard of HEZBOLLAH? you shudnt come at me with this, i have dealt with ur outrageous statements before. Learn this name... XERXES22. Do u know who are the founders of HEZBOLLAH? Do you know who formed its organizational strategic blueprint ? Do u know where they got their first penny from? Do you know who drove Israel out from Lebanese occupied territories? Do you know who fought and defeated ISRAEL in 2006?

So it was the mighty Algerians, and the most significant Moroccans and the Ultimos of Tunisia and the invincible star wars forces of Egypt that operated and commanded Hezbollah right?. Truth is right there all over around you. Find it. Everyone here knows why you are so biased against IRAN. Everyone knows it. And what a pity that its because of that kinda reason that you are biased.
 
.
PS: US estimates Iran has around 2,000 ballistic missiles total. Most are shorter/medium range. Can reach neighboring nations of Iran but not many can reach Israel which is why they arm Hezbollah.
As for Medium range Missiles they can reach Israel if these were fire from southwest of Iran, near to Iraqi border, even from Tehran.
Tehran - Tel-aviv have a distance of 1200 miles, Shahab-3/Fair-3 and others especially sejjil have a range of 2000 to 4500 km
 
.
Iran never fired a shot at Israel? Hey, ever heard of HEZBOLLAH? you shudnt come at me with this, i have dealt with ur outrageous statements before. Learn this name... XERXES22. Do u know who are the founders of HEZBOLLAH? Do you know who formed its organizational strategic blueprint ? Do u know where they got their first penny from? Do you know who drove Israel out from Lebanese occupied territories? Do you know who fought and defeated ISRAEL in 2006?

So it was the mighty Algerians, and the most significant Moroccans and the Ultimos of Tunisia and the invincible star wars forces of Egypt that operated and commanded Hezbollah right?. Truth is right there all over around you. Find it. Everyone here knows why you are so biased against IRAN. Everyone knows it. And what a pity that its because of that kinda reason that you are biased.

Okay Xerxes22, I will remember you ... as the 22 yr old hypebeast kid that you are, lol. You mentioned Hezbollah, which was developed by Iran, not created by it. And it is one paramilitary group which didn't even do 1/100th of what Arab militaries did to Israel. Or even the PLO which preceded Hezbollah and did much more damage to Israel and Israeli's around the world and killed many more than Hezbollah did. Or Hamas which you don't care about that fought Israel's occupation in Gaza, did many bombings in Israel, and is still fighting Israel unlike your Hezbollah which stopped after 2006. Hezbollah gets credit for what it did in 2006 and prior, but you greatly blowing it out of proportion especially when we compare to PLO and Arab-Israeli wars.

The reason you guys do this is because you are treating Hezbollah like your marketing tool to market that you fought Israel because none one else in this so called 'Resistance' axis is willing to fight Israel in any way, shape or form. You guys sound like broken record bringing up Hezbollah-Israel month long war. And what's funny about it all is it still don't involve Iran directly. Hezbollah fighting is not Iran fighting. And even Hezbollah not willing to fight anymore.

And as I said, my assessment is if US strikes Iran nuclear program and Israel not involved, I don't see Iran or Hezbollah targeting Israel in response in a major way. But, I do see them targeting SA and Gulf nations in a major way. You are more than welcome to give me reasons for otherwise, but your broken record argument is not helping you. :D

Iran-Israel rhetoric thing was energizer for revolution back in the 80's, it's worn off now and nobody in Iran or its allies(minus Palestinians) care about it anymore. They have different priorities and visions nowadays.

As for Medium range Missiles they can reach Israel if these were fire from southwest of Iran, near to Iraqi border, even from Tehran.
Tehran - Tel-aviv have a distance of 1200 miles, Shahab-3/Fair-3 and others especially sejjil have a range of 2000 to 4500 km

Yes I know, but those longer range missiles are less in quantity, they aren't cheap to make. That's why Iran has said in past it will use Hezbollah if Israel targets their nuclear program.
 
.

Latest posts

Country Latest Posts

Back
Top Bottom