Iranian MP says foreign adversary recently attacked Iran using drones

[Philosopher]

@Beny Karachun

Like we discussed few days ago, it is extremely unlikely for these to be viral related. It was definitely due to sabotage via explosives. This is still a failure on Iran's part.

 

[BHarwana]

IMO? A Stuxnet like virus. I believe they made it more complex and made it target gas tank infrastructure.
But again, just speculation, I honestly have no idea.

I highly doubt it is a virus attack. Yes cyber capabilities are growing around the world but exploding gas tanks is odd those tanks had manual valves.
One thing is that this all happened after X37 went into space.

 

[Beny Karachun]

Arrests have been made already but until they reveal full information we will not know the extend of the issue. However it is frankly satirical to think aerial attacks were involved. Note, people are not saying drones came from outside of Iran (which would be even more silly) but they say internal saboteurs had access to UAVs inside Iran and used them.

Another reason I believe it's a cyberattack is that there are similar blasts and fires all over Iran, some of them in places that have no military value, which is a pattern of a computer virus spreading, not professional saboteurs with access to remotely controlled bombs inside Iran.

 

[Philosopher]

Nope, it is part of my OP post. I know you looking for reason to lock thread but you do it this time I'm getting Webmaster and Horus involved. Sorry, but you can't be dictator on this forum and try closing every thread about Iran that isn't created by pro-Iran regime users.

Calm down my friend,

If there is a reliable news Iranians are the first to post them. You're acting as if we're trying to hide the truth or something. I am asking you to be careful to not spread misinformation (you may not realise). Answer me this, do you not see the obvious holes in this UAV claim?

 

[Beny Karachun]

@Beny Karachun

Like we discussed few days ago, it is extremely unlikely for these to be viral related. It was definitely due to sabotage via explosives. This is still a failure on Iran's part.

Might be a mix of both. As I said, I don't know and we might never know.

 

[Philosopher]

Another reason I believe it's a cyberattack is that there are similar blasts and fires all over Iran, some of them in places that have no military value, which is a pattern of a computer virus spreading, not professional saboteurs with access to remotely controlled bombs inside Iran.

The evidence is pointing to explosives in Natanz. Maybe cyber was involved in other parts. I am just ranking based on likelihood. Iran is a very large country, you do not need professional saboteurs to plant bomb in a medical building (one of the attacks). Lets wait and see what information comes out.

 

[BHarwana]

The evidence is pointing to explosives in Natanz. Maybe cyber was involved in other parts. I am just ranking based on likelihood. Iran is a very large country, you do not need professional saboteurs to plant bomb in a medical building (one of the attacks). Lets wait and see what information comes out.

For your analysis you should use a diminishing method. first list all the possible causes then list why they could be source of attack & why they could not be source of attack. that will make you reach a conclusion.

 

[Falcon29]

Calm down my friend,

If there is a reliable news Iranians are the first to post them. You're acting as if we're trying to hide the truth or something. I am asking you to be careful to not spread misinformation (you may not realise). Answer me this, do you not see the obvious holes in this UAV claim?

You and Bhwarana need to calm down and nobody else. No one interested in your discussions, have it between yourselves. This is about Iranian MP tweet and US intelligence report.

 

[Uguduwa]

only after president Kanye is elected we can sort this shit out.

 

[Beny Karachun]

The evidence is pointing to explosives in Natanz. Maybe cyber was involved in other parts. I am just ranking based on likelihood. Iran is a very large country, you do not need professional saboteurs to plant bomb in a medical building (one of the attacks). Lets wait and see what information comes out.

There's no need to plant a bomb in a medical building, period.
Only reasonable explanations are either a massive coincidence, or a virus, or someone for some reason wanted to plant a bomb in a medical clinic and other sites.

 

[Philosopher]

For your analysis you should use a diminishing method. first list all the possible causes then list why they could be source of attack & why they could not be source of attack. that will make you reach a conclusion.

Going by what we know, the outcome is to assume the attacks were done by saboteurs using explosives, especially given the history of explosions in Iran (Nuclear scientists assassination as an example). Second most reasonable explanation is the above but with elements of cyberattack in other areas.

You and Bhwarana need to calm down and nobody else. No one interested in your discussions, have it between yourselves. This is about Iranian MP tweet and US intelligence report.

The question I asked you was directly related to your own thread that you opened, or have you no interest in the details of your own threads?

 

[Falcon29]

I do not see anything in my or Bhwarana's comments to suggest lack of calm, yours on the other hand are filled with emotive language such as threats against closing the thread etc.

The question I asked you was directly related to your own thread that you opened, or have you no interest in the details of your own threads?

Like I said, both of you want thread closed and you started by trying to tag him. And I told him if it happens I'm getting forum owner and administrators involved. Everything else you say I'm not interested in, only interested in topic. If you believe Iranian MP twitter account is fake message him on twitter and ask him or call his office in Iran.

 

[Philosopher]

Like I said, both of you want thread closed and you started by trying to tag him.

I asked him to clarify if using twitter as a source is okay for opening a thread. In the past, I have seen threads being closed for this. In case you are not fully aware, but sources matter greatly.

Everything else you say I'm not interested in, only interested in topic.

I asked you a question on topic.

 

[Falcon29]

I asked him to clarify if using twitter as a source is okay for opening a thread. In the past, I have seen threads being closed for this. In case you are not fully aware, but sources matter greatly.



I asked you a question on topic.

And that is his actual twitter account, if you want you kind message him on twitter or call his office in Iran.

And I know you already try reporting thread to get it closed so let's not pretend you have any other purpose here besides shutting down everything you don't like.

 

[Philosopher]

And that is his actual twitter account, if you want you kind message him on twitter or call his office in Iran.

I am here in this forum, this is not twitter. You opened a thread in this forum and I have asked you a question on the topic you yourself opened, seems to me you have little interest in the details.