Iranian Chill Thread

[haman10]

People are so addicted to medicines that when doctors don't give them a medicine they got mad.

How is the health care in Iran ?

Both iran and turkey ate the one and only medical tourist hubs in the region .
Healthcare in iran ihas advanced significantly in the past years .

Minnesotta of US has taken iranian system as its ideal goal and is currently trying to reach the same pattern

@haman10

What do you think about the atletico madrid jersey thing?

I've no idea what you're talking about man . Lol
When I'm not trolling here I'm actually studying for college
Can u believe it ? Lol

 

[-SINAN-]

s probably a lot better right now, I remember going to hospital as a child in early 2000s, it was really depressing, everything is better currently.

We have built thousands of hospitals in the past decade (literally).

 

[Hakan]

Both iran and turkey ate the one and only medical tourist hubs in the region .
Healthcare in iran ihas advanced significantly in the past years .

Minnesotta of US has taken iranian system as its ideal goal and is currently trying to reach the same pattern


I've no idea what you're talking about man . Lol
When I'm not trolling here I'm actually studying for college
Can u believe it ? Lol

lol me too. I have to study for exams aswell. Good luck and make dua for me.

 

[haman10]

lol me too. I have to study for exams aswell. Good luck and make dua for me.

Sure mate .
I need some of that dua as well .
Allah help us both

 

[rmi5]

Caucasian Albania, how it has name common to Albania of Europe.

It was a name given by Romans, I'm not sure about the meaning of the word. There was also an "Iberia" (like the Iberian Peninsula) in present-day Georgia, next to "Albania".

Albania means a "mountainous region". That's why they called both regions as Albania

again , i agree with you . in iran doctors prescribe "dexamethasone" which is a very very powerful immuno-suppressant drug for each and every sore throat !!! That is insane ! it immediately removes any bad feeling / disease in the body , but has serious side effects later in life .
lol , again you're exaggerating ....
almost every text book regarding medical care in written in US . you know i dont like US , but seriously , if there was no US , modern medical care would still be following the iranian textbook of abu ali sina
no , its not insane . as i said before , that drug is safe for use if its taken with doctors prescription . UK care system has a lot of huge big faults , just like the american one . if you want to know why , ask , i can explain
peace .

US medical care system is really the best. some people think that since Canada provides so called free medical care system, it is better than US, but in reality, Canadians wait very long in hospitals to even receive simple operations or visit by doctor, and they may wait weeks for more complicated operations, ... Anyway, Tax rate is higher in Canada, and they are basically paying it indirectly. I had an operation in US, which was pretty complicated, but the funny point was that I did not need to wait even 1 hour for some hospital to do the operation. In US, medical care system is really quick, and they are equipped with literally the best instruments, ...

 

[haman10]

Albania means a "mountainous region". That's why they called both regions as Albania



US medical care system is really the best. some people think that since Canada provides so called free medical care system, it is better than US, but in reality, Canadians wait very long in hospitals to even receive simple operations or visit by doctor, and they may wait weeks for more complicated operations, ... Anyway, Tax rate is higher in Canada, and they are basically paying it indirectly. I had an operation in US, which was pretty complicated, but the funny point was that I did not need to wait even 1 hour for some hospital to do the operation. In US, medical care system is really quick, and they are equipped with literally the best instruments, ...

So true . U know how much I hate complimenting US .
but when I read my books , I really feel the pain and endevour those people have taken to actually help the welfare of their own nation and in result the people around the world .

So yeah ! Kudos to them for this .

As I said before , if it wasn't for americans , we were probably reading abu ali sina's books as our source . Lol

 

[blackface]

Albania means a "mountainous region". That's why they called both regions as Albania



US medical care system is really the best. some people think that since Canada provides so called free medical care system, it is better than US, but in reality, Canadians wait very long in hospitals to even receive simple operations or visit by doctor, and they may wait weeks for more complicated operations, ... Anyway, Tax rate is higher in Canada, and they are basically paying it indirectly. I had an operation in US, which was pretty complicated, but the funny point was that I did not need to wait even 1 hour for some hospital to do the operation. In US, medical care system is really quick, and they are equipped with literally the best instruments, ...

US has the best health care system in the world?? Is this a joke?

 

[rmi5]

US has the best health care system in the world?? Is this a joke?

Dude, That's a reality. Even @haman10 who is 120% (LOL) anti-american, and is a medical doctor, admits it.
Sorry man, but I prefer to pay a few more bucks and do not wait in long queues of patients and getting treated with the most advanced medical technology, and instruments.

 

[Abii]

Albania means a "mountainous region". That's why they called both regions as Albania



US medical care system is really the best. some people think that since Canada provides so called free medical care system, it is better than US, but in reality, Canadians wait very long in hospitals to even receive simple operations or visit by doctor, and they may wait weeks for more complicated operations, ... Anyway, Tax rate is higher in Canada, and they are basically paying it indirectly. I had an operation in US, which was pretty complicated, but the funny point was that I did not need to wait even 1 hour for some hospital to do the operation. In US, medical care system is really quick, and they are equipped with literally the best instruments, ...

rmi, you need to think more logically about this.

Canada spends much less per capita than USA does. That's the direct reason for long wait times. Here, health care is done on a provincial level and there have been referendums for increasing the budget before which have failed. Outside the long wait times, there's literally no other benefit to having an American system. Here in Canada I can go and pay for my health care needs in a private clinic if I want to. Nobody's stopping me. However I have the choice to wait and be treated in a public facility at no charge to me.

And no, we don't pay higher taxes. I thought we already discussed that. Middle class Canadians make more money (after tax) than their American counterparts and we have more equity on average than Americans. Sales taxes are roughly the same. For example here in Alberta I only pay 5% which is negligible.

Canada's middle class richest in study of big nations - The Globe and Mail

Also:

Over the past five years, the average net worth of Canadian households has exceeded that of American households. So for the the first time in history, Canadians are wealthier than Americans — by more than $40,000, on average

The stats don't lie. The US is a great country, but it was much better in the old days. Since 2000, it's become an awful place for the middle class. In the past decade the country has had a 0.3% growth in incomes to our 20%!!! To claim that services in the US are better is insanity. As I said, we HAVE THE OPTION to go to a private clinic and buy insurance in the open market should we choose it. That's what your politicians don't tell you. Anyone who doesn't want to wait, doesn't have to.

Dude, That's a reality. Even @haman10 who is 120% (LOL) anti-american, and is a medical doctor, admits it.
Sorry man, but I prefer to pay a few more bucks and do not wait in long queues of patients and getting treated with the most advanced medical technology, and instruments.

USA ranks behind Costa Rica by the World Health Organization. Why are you being so stubborn on this issue? I thought you were a man of facts?

I'm not trying to be an arse here, but it's clear as daylight. Say you're in Canada. You can have the exact same coverage you have in USA, should you wish it. I can buy insurance in the open market (the exact same one you have probably) right this second. The VAST MAJORITY of people don't and rather keep their public option. Life expectancy is higher here in Canada and we spend less per capita than you guys, even though we run a universal system.

The only reason wait times are so long here is our lack of spending. If we spent the same amount, we'd score much higher and probably be in the top 10 in the world.

 

[rmi5]

rmi, you need to think more logically about this.

Canada spends much less per capita than USA does. That's the direct reason for long wait times. Here, health care is done on a provincial level and there have been referendums for increasing the budget before which have failed. Outside the long wait times, there's literally no other benefit to having an American system. Here in Canada I can go and pay for my health care needs in a private clinic if I want to. Nobody's stopping me. However I have the choice to wait and be treated in a public facility and no charge to me.

And no, we don't pay higher taxes. I thought we already discussed that. Middle class Canadians make more money (after tax) than their American counterparts and we have more equity on average than Americans. Sales taxes are roughly the same. For example here in Alberta I only pay 5% which is negligible.

Canada's middle class richest in study of big nations - The Globe and Mail

Also:

The stats don't lie. The US is a great country, but it was much better in the old days. Since 2000, it's become an awful place for the middle class. In the past decade the country has had a 0.3% growth in incomes to our 20%!!! To claim that services in the US are better is insanity. As I said, we HAVE THE OPTION to go to a private clinic and buy insurance in the open market should we choose it. That's what your politicians don't tell you. Anyone who doesn't want to wait, doesn't have to.


USA ranks behind Costa Rica by the World Health Organization. Why are you being so stubborn on this issue? I thought you were a man of facts?

I'm not trying to be an arse here, but it's clear as daylight. Say you're in Canada. You can have the exact same coverage you have in USA, should you wish it. I can buy insurance in the open market (the exact same one you have probably) right this second. The VAST MAJORITY of people don't and rather keep their public option. Life expectancy is higher here in Canada and we spend less per capita than you guys, even though we run a universal system.

The only reason wait times are so long here is our lack of spending. If we spent the same amount, we'd score much higher and probably be in the top 10 in the world.

Dude, it is not free, you are already paying for it in your tax. So, even if you go to private clinic, you would be screwed since a portion of your paid tax has became useless for yourself. About tax, you are comparing an oil state like Alberta with average of US. Instead you can compare it with an oil rich state like texas in which people pay 0.00% state tax.
Anyway, As I said to Blackface, I prefer to pay more, but do not wait in long queues of patients and getting treated with the most advanced medical technology, and instruments.

 

[Abii]

Dude, it is not free, you are already paying for it in your tax. So, even if you go to private clinic, you would be screwed since a portion of your paid tax has became useless. About tax, you are comparing an oil state like Alberta with average of US. Instead you can compare it with an oil rich state like texas in which people pay 0.00% state tax.
Anyway, As I said to Blackface, I prefer to pay more, but do not wait in long queues of patients and getting treated with the most advanced medical technology, and instruments.

Again, you're skipping over facts.

We make much higher salaries up here so looking at our taxes gives you a false figure. Provincial sales tax here is 0% as well (we just pay 5% GST in Alberta). But ignore all that and let's look at the national level.

IT IS A FACT that our middle class are richer (after deducting income tax) and that we have more equity on average than Americans. So not only are we richer, but we also get more for the taxes we pay. So yes, our health care system is paid by our taxes, but after deducting the income tax we're still making more than Americans and our rate of growth is almost 20 times higher (20% growth in incomes vs 0.3% since 2000). So our after tax incomes are higher and our services are better and more widely available. USA doesn't even have paid maternity leave (one of only 2-3 countries on the planet).

And again, USA ranks 37th behind Costa Rica according to the World Health Organization. On what planet is the US ahead in the health care department?

Article by the New York Times from last week. It's relevant to our discussion. It's short, but gets the message across.
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/05/01/u...also-a-sense-theyre-better-off.html?hpw&rref=

 

[rmi5]

Again, you're skipping over facts.

We make much higher salaries up here so looking at our taxes gives you a false figure. Provincial sales tax here is 0% as well (we just pay 5% GST in Alberta). But ignore all that and let's look at the national level.

IT IS A FACT that our middle class are richer (after deducting income tax) and that we have more equity on average than Americans. So not only are we richer, but we also get more for the taxes we pay. So yes, our health care system is paid by our taxes, but after deducting the income tax we're still making more than Americans and our rate of growth is almost 20 times higher (20% growth in incomes vs 0.3% since 2000).

And again, USA ranks 37th behind Costa Rica according to the World Health Organization. On what planet is the US ahead in the health care department?

LOL, come on, they need to close W.H.O if they have published such a ridiculous report of US being 37th in health care. That's just hilarious, man.
Anyway, on average, your cost of living is also probably higher. In addition, you keep talking about Alberta which is like a Qatar in north west of canada, while Ontario and Quebec are the main part of Canadian economy and they pay much more rates of taxes. BTW, having a higher equity is not strange, because Canada is a pretty socialistic country. North Korea probably has even a better equity than US and Canada, but it does not show anything. The fact is that americans have access to a better and more advanced system. they may pay more for it, but we will receive a better service as well.

 

[Sam1980]

Hi /wave

 

[Abii]

LOL, come on, they need to close W.H.O if they have published such a ridiculous report of US being 37th in health care. That's just hilarious, man.
Anyway, on average, your cost of living is also probably higher. In addition, you keep talking about Alberta which is like a Qatar in north west of canada, while Ontario and Quebec are the main part of Canadian economy and they pay much more rates of taxes. BTW, having a higher equity is not strange, because Canada is a pretty socialistic country. North Korea probably has even a better equity than US and Canada, but it does not show anything. The fact is that americans have access to a better and more advanced system. they may pay more for it, but we will receive a better service as well.

False.

What I said was on a national level and it wasn't my opinion. Please scroll up and click on the links. If our costs are so much higher, than why do we have 40,000 dollar more equity on average?

And Canada is only more equal than USA. I checked the figures and Canada is the LEAST equal of all OECD countries, except the USA. You can check the figures yourself. This whole "canada is socialist" is just noise that comes from the US.

What exactly is more advanced in the US? No paid maternity leave for mothers is a joke. Even 3rd world countries have that. Or is it the lower life expectancy? USA is the only OECD country that doesn't have a paid maternity leave. USA is the only OECD country that doesn't have a public system. Wait times? No problem, anybody can visit a private clinic, be it in France, Canada or the UK.

You're being illogical here. Please read the links I posted. This whole Canadians pay more taxes, wait times, socialism etc... is all populist garbage noise that comes from the looney republicans.

 

[Sam1980]

@doritos Mate, I know you're a satirist and all, but seriously? What's with the avatar?