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An interesting comment from an user on a different platform which I wanted to share with you guys:

He is of the opinion that the real fear of the west is the iranian progress in nuclear propulsion...


which will be a game changer

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There has been an increasingly visible ‘cold asymmetric war’ ongoing against Iran (by Israel, the UK, and the US) on the high seas for more years than many realise.

With the exception of the very public but gentle “sparing” between US, UK, and Iranian vessels in the Persian Gulf, and the swarming of ‘little boats’ under the cover of advanced anti-ship missiles and subs, little is seen by the public.

Occasionally there will be some pushing and shoving which usually involves the US and UK being humbled in some way – such as the very well reported capturing of British sailors by Iran (Twice!) right under the noses of British and US warships, and also the humiliating capturing of US Spec Ops and sailors (Twice!), again right under the noses of British and US warships, but other than that the conflict has not been seen much by the public via the MSM.

However the conflict continues and has become ‘hot’ to a limited extent recently. Notable is the use of submarine warfare and special forces/commandos led sabotage. This is now escalating into ‘tit for tat’ pop-up and punch naval attacks (very limited at the moment).

So far these pop-up and punch naval attacks seen to be little more than demonstrations of capability by various sides – with more recent ‘on board’ attacks (as opposed to above the waterline from the waterline mine placing) being used by Israel to perhaps demonstrate an enhanced capability.

It is clear to the trained eye that there have also been encounters between Iranian anti-submarine warfare units and the US/UK/Israel, to the point that the US, UK, and Israel take Iran’s submarine and anti-submarine warfare capability very seriously.

It was very noticeable that a recent transit of the Persian Gulf by a US sub was made on the surface – a demonstration by the US that there was no hostile intent (the plot thickens on that incident, especially as an Iranian ASW helicopter with a an anti-sub torpedo was filmed covering the transit).

Such a transit is akin to a soldier – although still armed – walking through a check point with both hands raised and his weapon slung/secured.

Iran has made no secret that it has a capable submarine fleet which contains approx 40 subs of various types, including 3 (known) Kilo class Soviet era subs.

It has been suspected that Iran has used submarines to support operations in Yemen.

But this is where things get interesting and many analysts miss – at least one submarine (type unknown) has been used as a mule for experiments with nuclear propulsion. It is suspected that this program may be as advanced as Brasil’s: https://www.wilsoncenter.org/blog-post/the-long-history-brazils-nuclear-submarine-program

Notably, one Iranian Kilo class sub has also been reported as being “heavily modified”. It is unknown if this is being / has been upgraded to launch cruise missiles, is being used for special operations, or is part of the nuclear propulsion program.

There is speculation that Iran is much further along with their nuclear propulsion program than the west realize, possibly further than Brasil (if using Chinese assistance). The unusual and difficult movement of a Kilo sub out of the sea and across land for ‘repairs’ in 2020 added to the speculation that experiments with advanced propulsion methods are well advanced and the Kilo is being used to test aspects of technology, if not an actual reactor:
It is unknown if China is helping Iran with submarine development – or if they will eventually simply ‘sell’ subs to Iran, but as a barter deal of gas fields for subs and oil for aircraft has been suggested this may be a possibility the US and Israel will seek to block.

If Iran is well advanced in working towards indigenous nuclear reactors for submarine propulsion, this would more likely represent a greater threat to US (and UK and Israeli) domination in the region than a nuclear weapons program. With nuclear powered subs Iran could effectively “check” any navy in the region, and even potentially support / escort shipping as far away as Venezuela.

This may be the real reason the US/UK/Israel are foaming at the mouth over Iran’s nuclear program and research reactors. Submarine propulsion development as opposed to weapons development is arguably a more usable game-changer / equalizer.

Just something to think about, nothing more………
 
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@TheImmortal

Bro.... don´t waste your time on this kid... he/she is full of sh¡t.

He/she says he/she lives in shared accomodation in Germany, but doesnt speak German, doens´t know any German people, hasn´t travelled across German, and yet was telling me about his experiances (which he has none) of German life!!!! And started to insult me when I told him about my experiances of living and travelling all over Germany!!

The kid then said that his English is better than mine (I grew up in England and have two law degrees from English universities)..... then said that I am an Afghan!!!! Then said I must be a Dahati (I was born in Tehran as were both my parents) then when I said my house in Tehran is near Arjantin square.... he said that´s not a rich area and he lives in the rich part of Tehran!!!! LOL

Then I said I will come and see him/her, he/she refused to tell me where he/she lives.

My advice is to leave this OGHDEHEE kid live in his/her own retarded world, where billins of dollars of Gold is loaded up on a truck and stolen from one country´s governmet and nothing is done about it.
 
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@TheImmortal

Bro.... don´t waste your time on this kid... he/she is full of sh¡t.

He/she says he/she lives in shared accomodation in Germany, but doesnt speak German, doens´t know any German people, hasn´t travelled across German, and yet was telling me about his experiances (which he has none) of German life!!!! And started to insult me when I told him about my experiances of living and travelling all over Germany!!

The kid then said that his English is better than mine (I grew up in England and have two law degrees from English universities)..... then said that I am an Afghan!!!! Then said I must be a Dahati (I was born in Tehran as were both my parents) then when I said my house in Tehran is near Arjantin square.... he said that´s not a rich area and he lives in the rich part of Tehran!!!! LOL

Then I said I will come and see him/her, he/she refused to tell me where he/she lives.

My advice is to leave this OGHDEHEE kid live in his/her own retarded world, where billins of dollars of Gold is loaded up on a truck and stolen from one country´s governmet and nothing is done about it.
Baz toye geda goshneyi ke ta hala pat ro az avarezi karaj ham biroon nazashtio fekr mikoni tehran modern tarin shahre donyas goh khori kardi? :)))))) Vase toye Afghan arjantin joze bala shahre hatman :)))))

Kooni behet goftam shomarato bede gharar bezarim, az tars khafe shodi

The poor thing can't even spell experience, and the clown has two degrees in law! LMAO What a pathetic peasant.
 
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An interesting comment from an user on a different platform which I wanted to share with you guys:

He is of the opinion that the real fear of the west is the iranian progress in nuclear propulsion...


which will be a game changer

----

There has been an increasingly visible ‘cold asymmetric war’ ongoing against Iran (by Israel, the UK, and the US) on the high seas for more years than many realise.

With the exception of the very public but gentle “sparing” between US, UK, and Iranian vessels in the Persian Gulf, and the swarming of ‘little boats’ under the cover of advanced anti-ship missiles and subs, little is seen by the public.

Occasionally there will be some pushing and shoving which usually involves the US and UK being humbled in some way – such as the very well reported capturing of British sailors by Iran (Twice!) right under the noses of British and US warships, and also the humiliating capturing of US Spec Ops and sailors (Twice!), again right under the noses of British and US warships, but other than that the conflict has not been seen much by the public via the MSM.

However the conflict continues and has become ‘hot’ to a limited extent recently. Notable is the use of submarine warfare and special forces/commandos led sabotage. This is now escalating into ‘tit for tat’ pop-up and punch naval attacks (very limited at the moment).

So far these pop-up and punch naval attacks seen to be little more than demonstrations of capability by various sides – with more recent ‘on board’ attacks (as opposed to above the waterline from the waterline mine placing) being used by Israel to perhaps demonstrate an enhanced capability.

It is clear to the trained eye that there have also been encounters between Iranian anti-submarine warfare units and the US/UK/Israel, to the point that the US, UK, and Israel take Iran’s submarine and anti-submarine warfare capability very seriously.

It was very noticeable that a recent transit of the Persian Gulf by a US sub was made on the surface – a demonstration by the US that there was no hostile intent (the plot thickens on that incident, especially as an Iranian ASW helicopter with a an anti-sub torpedo was filmed covering the transit).

Such a transit is akin to a soldier – although still armed – walking through a check point with both hands raised and his weapon slung/secured.

Iran has made no secret that it has a capable submarine fleet which contains approx 40 subs of various types, including 3 (known) Kilo class Soviet era subs.

It has been suspected that Iran has used submarines to support operations in Yemen.

But this is where things get interesting and many analysts miss – at least one submarine (type unknown) has been used as a mule for experiments with nuclear propulsion. It is suspected that this program may be as advanced as Brasil’s: https://www.wilsoncenter.org/blog-post/the-long-history-brazils-nuclear-submarine-program

Notably, one Iranian Kilo class sub has also been reported as being “heavily modified”. It is unknown if this is being / has been upgraded to launch cruise missiles, is being used for special operations, or is part of the nuclear propulsion program.

There is speculation that Iran is much further along with their nuclear propulsion program than the west realize, possibly further than Brasil (if using Chinese assistance). The unusual and difficult movement of a Kilo sub out of the sea and across land for ‘repairs’ in 2020 added to the speculation that experiments with advanced propulsion methods are well advanced and the Kilo is being used to test aspects of technology, if not an actual reactor:
It is unknown if China is helping Iran with submarine development – or if they will eventually simply ‘sell’ subs to Iran, but as a barter deal of gas fields for subs and oil for aircraft has been suggested this may be a possibility the US and Israel will seek to block.

If Iran is well advanced in working towards indigenous nuclear reactors for submarine propulsion, this would more likely represent a greater threat to US (and UK and Israeli) domination in the region than a nuclear weapons program. With nuclear powered subs Iran could effectively “check” any navy in the region, and even potentially support / escort shipping as far away as Venezuela.

This may be the real reason the US/UK/Israel are foaming at the mouth over Iran’s nuclear program and research reactors. Submarine propulsion development as opposed to weapons development is arguably a more usable game-changer / equalizer.

Just something to think about, nothing more………

حالا بیست تا موتور دریایی کوچک چقدر پلوتونیوم میده
از خود اراک بیشتر میشه با نه
نوترینوهاش در دریا و خشکی کجا میره
میشه جاشونو پیدا کرد؟
پخش میشه تو سطح وسیع و نویز هم ایجاد میکنه
اینها همه مضراتش ه برای غربی ها

برزیل ساخت و چون نظامی بود به اژانس نشون هم نمیده​
 
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To all if you know please comment:

As I was sifting through the naval photos of Iran I saw this (2016,0r 2017 photos!)

what is this ..is this related to "nuclear propulsion" another photo showed late Rafsanjani visiting this!!!!,.

nuclear_fuison_reactor.jpg
N_F.jpg
 
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An interesting comment from an user on a different platform which I wanted to share with you guys:

He is of the opinion that the real fear of the west is the iranian progress in nuclear propulsion...


which will be a game changer

----

There has been an increasingly visible ‘cold asymmetric war’ ongoing against Iran (by Israel, the UK, and the US) on the high seas for more years than many realise.

With the exception of the very public but gentle “sparing” between US, UK, and Iranian vessels in the Persian Gulf, and the swarming of ‘little boats’ under the cover of advanced anti-ship missiles and subs, little is seen by the public.

Occasionally there will be some pushing and shoving which usually involves the US and UK being humbled in some way – such as the very well reported capturing of British sailors by Iran (Twice!) right under the noses of British and US warships, and also the humiliating capturing of US Spec Ops and sailors (Twice!), again right under the noses of British and US warships, but other than that the conflict has not been seen much by the public via the MSM.

However the conflict continues and has become ‘hot’ to a limited extent recently. Notable is the use of submarine warfare and special forces/commandos led sabotage. This is now escalating into ‘tit for tat’ pop-up and punch naval attacks (very limited at the moment).

So far these pop-up and punch naval attacks seen to be little more than demonstrations of capability by various sides – with more recent ‘on board’ attacks (as opposed to above the waterline from the waterline mine placing) being used by Israel to perhaps demonstrate an enhanced capability.

It is clear to the trained eye that there have also been encounters between Iranian anti-submarine warfare units and the US/UK/Israel, to the point that the US, UK, and Israel take Iran’s submarine and anti-submarine warfare capability very seriously.

It was very noticeable that a recent transit of the Persian Gulf by a US sub was made on the surface – a demonstration by the US that there was no hostile intent (the plot thickens on that incident, especially as an Iranian ASW helicopter with a an anti-sub torpedo was filmed covering the transit).

Such a transit is akin to a soldier – although still armed – walking through a check point with both hands raised and his weapon slung/secured.

Iran has made no secret that it has a capable submarine fleet which contains approx 40 subs of various types, including 3 (known) Kilo class Soviet era subs.

It has been suspected that Iran has used submarines to support operations in Yemen.

But this is where things get interesting and many analysts miss – at least one submarine (type unknown) has been used as a mule for experiments with nuclear propulsion. It is suspected that this program may be as advanced as Brasil’s: https://www.wilsoncenter.org/blog-post/the-long-history-brazils-nuclear-submarine-program

Notably, one Iranian Kilo class sub has also been reported as being “heavily modified”. It is unknown if this is being / has been upgraded to launch cruise missiles, is being used for special operations, or is part of the nuclear propulsion program.

There is speculation that Iran is much further along with their nuclear propulsion program than the west realize, possibly further than Brasil (if using Chinese assistance). The unusual and difficult movement of a Kilo sub out of the sea and across land for ‘repairs’ in 2020 added to the speculation that experiments with advanced propulsion methods are well advanced and the Kilo is being used to test aspects of technology, if not an actual reactor:
It is unknown if China is helping Iran with submarine development – or if they will eventually simply ‘sell’ subs to Iran, but as a barter deal of gas fields for subs and oil for aircraft has been suggested this may be a possibility the US and Israel will seek to block.

If Iran is well advanced in working towards indigenous nuclear reactors for submarine propulsion, this would more likely represent a greater threat to US (and UK and Israeli) domination in the region than a nuclear weapons program. With nuclear powered subs Iran could effectively “check” any navy in the region, and even potentially support / escort shipping as far away as Venezuela.

This may be the real reason the US/UK/Israel are foaming at the mouth over Iran’s nuclear program and research reactors. Submarine propulsion development as opposed to weapons development is arguably a more usable game-changer / equalizer.

Just something to think about, nothing more………

Unlikely Iran is close to nuclear propulsion. They didn’t start the project till 10 years ago and at that time it was more propaganda and negotiation tactic. So to think that Iran would have a workable nuclear reactor for marine vessel in a decade seems far fetched. Especially given at the time Iran had no domestic submarine(besides kilo) that could be fitted with such a reactor.

Also the US submarine going thru the PG is more to do with the fact it is a massive sub that is too big for the PG gulf shallow waters to actually do a dive. Even Iran’s Kilo’s are a bit too big for those waters.

I don’t doubt Iran’s submarines are something the West looks seriously at. But nuclear propulsion For submarine is still a ways away.
 
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LOL Bro..... Iran isnt event allowed to send money internationally......

Iran has been working on this for a long time....its a live project still
 
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LOL Bro..... Iran isnt event allowed to send money internationally......

Iran has been working on this for a long time....its a live project still
I am very happy to know it is on going and active...because of my background in Lasers and Physics I was interviewed almost 30 years ago for a Canadian company that was funded for Canada's TOKOMAK project....got a better (more paying!) job so that was it..lol
 
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To all if you know please comment:

As I was sifting through the naval photos of Iran I saw this (2016,0r 2017 photos!)

what is this ..is this related to "nuclear propulsion" another photo showed late Rafsanjani visiting this!!!!,.

View attachment 724773View attachment 724774

if i remember right there where rumors in ahmadinejads period that Iran is working on nuclear propulsion system for submarines. If true Iran must have made big process by now.
maybe members like @yavar knowing more details and insights on this topic.
 
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Unlikely Iran is close to nuclear propulsion. They didn’t start the project till 10 years ago and at that time it was more propaganda and negotiation tactic. So to think that Iran would have a workable nuclear reactor for marine vessel in a decade seems far fetched. Especially given at the time Iran had no domestic submarine(besides kilo) that could be fitted with such a reactor.

Also the US submarine going thru the PG is more to do with the fact it is a massive sub that is too big for the PG gulf shallow waters to actually do a dive. Even Iran’s Kilo’s are a bit too big for those waters.

I don’t doubt Iran’s submarines are something the West looks seriously at. But nuclear propulsion For submarine is still a ways away.

I don’t think Iran has a working nuclear marine engine either due to miniaturization and I think the future plan will be light water reactor with 60% fuel and not a heavy water natural Uranium.l reactor.

Yet we know quality of Iranian heavy water is exceptionally good and it is sold worldwide. It is easy for them to make small scattered <1 MW heavy water reactors.
 
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Iran was supposed to have access to ITER research and benefit from its results when it eventually comes online according to jcpoa, but Iran very much never allowed to participate in ITER in any way.
The size of the Iranian tokamak isn't bad for basic research, but there has to be a much larger system in order to do any meaningful research for power production.
I've heard of a recent fusion method that converts the plasma directly to electricity without the need for turbines and I think this is the route Iran should take because I think using fusion to boil water might be a long way off for the entire species, nevermind Iran whereas the plasma to electricity seems easier to sustain. A tokomak can sustain a plasma ring even now, just not hot enough to boil water through the shielding via a heat exchanger to produce electricity.
 
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The method I mentioned earlier is not in this video but there were some other methods I never heard about!
 
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Despite all the odds the Houthis seem to be getting closer to Marib


At the same time the pro Saudi (Hadi) army claim to be making progress in the north western tip of Yemen, close to the south western Saudi border, near Abs city, Yemen. Fighting is ongoing.


Yet again fuel markets in Tarhan, Syria targeted by SAA missiles & Russian airforce. These are Turkish controlled areas of northern Syria.






Al-Hamran fuel market also targeted by SAA & Russian airforce. Pro-Turkish rebels are calling these strikes "human rights" violations


 
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