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An interesting comment from an user on a different platform which I wanted to share with you guys:
He is of the opinion that the real fear of the west is the iranian progress in nuclear propulsion...
which will be a game changer
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There has been an increasingly visible ‘cold asymmetric war’ ongoing against Iran (by Israel, the UK, and the US) on the high seas for more years than many realise.
With the exception of the very public but gentle “sparing” between US, UK, and Iranian vessels in the Persian Gulf, and the swarming of ‘little boats’ under the cover of advanced anti-ship missiles and subs, little is seen by the public.
Occasionally there will be some pushing and shoving which usually involves the US and UK being humbled in some way – such as the very well reported capturing of British sailors by Iran (Twice!) right under the noses of British and US warships, and also the humiliating capturing of US Spec Ops and sailors (Twice!), again right under the noses of British and US warships, but other than that the conflict has not been seen much by the public via the MSM.
However the conflict continues and has become ‘hot’ to a limited extent recently. Notable is the use of submarine warfare and special forces/commandos led sabotage. This is now escalating into ‘tit for tat’ pop-up and punch naval attacks (very limited at the moment).
So far these pop-up and punch naval attacks seen to be little more than demonstrations of capability by various sides – with more recent ‘on board’ attacks (as opposed to above the waterline from the waterline mine placing) being used by Israel to perhaps demonstrate an enhanced capability.
It is clear to the trained eye that there have also been encounters between Iranian anti-submarine warfare units and the US/UK/Israel, to the point that the US, UK, and Israel take Iran’s submarine and anti-submarine warfare capability very seriously.
It was very noticeable that a recent transit of the Persian Gulf by a US sub was made on the surface – a demonstration by the US that there was no hostile intent (the plot thickens on that incident, especially as an Iranian ASW helicopter with a an anti-sub torpedo was filmed covering the transit).
Such a transit is akin to a soldier – although still armed – walking through a check point with both hands raised and his weapon slung/secured.
Iran has made no secret that it has a capable submarine fleet which contains approx 40 subs of various types, including 3 (known) Kilo class Soviet era subs.
It has been suspected that Iran has used submarines to support operations in Yemen.
But this is where things get interesting and many analysts miss – at least one submarine (type unknown) has been used as a mule for experiments with nuclear propulsion. It is suspected that this program may be as advanced as Brasil’s: https://www.wilsoncenter.org/blog-post/the-long-history-brazils-nuclear-submarine-program
Notably, one Iranian Kilo class sub has also been reported as being “heavily modified”. It is unknown if this is being / has been upgraded to launch cruise missiles, is being used for special operations, or is part of the nuclear propulsion program.
There is speculation that Iran is much further along with their nuclear propulsion program than the west realize, possibly further than Brasil (if using Chinese assistance). The unusual and difficult movement of a Kilo sub out of the sea and across land for ‘repairs’ in 2020 added to the speculation that experiments with advanced propulsion methods are well advanced and the Kilo is being used to test aspects of technology, if not an actual reactor:
It is unknown if China is helping Iran with submarine development – or if they will eventually simply ‘sell’ subs to Iran, but as a barter deal of gas fields for subs and oil for aircraft has been suggested this may be a possibility the US and Israel will seek to block.
If Iran is well advanced in working towards indigenous nuclear reactors for submarine propulsion, this would more likely represent a greater threat to US (and UK and Israeli) domination in the region than a nuclear weapons program. With nuclear powered subs Iran could effectively “check” any navy in the region, and even potentially support / escort shipping as far away as Venezuela.
This may be the real reason the US/UK/Israel are foaming at the mouth over Iran’s nuclear program and research reactors. Submarine propulsion development as opposed to weapons development is arguably a more usable game-changer / equalizer.
Just something to think about, nothing more………
He is of the opinion that the real fear of the west is the iranian progress in nuclear propulsion...
which will be a game changer
----
There has been an increasingly visible ‘cold asymmetric war’ ongoing against Iran (by Israel, the UK, and the US) on the high seas for more years than many realise.
With the exception of the very public but gentle “sparing” between US, UK, and Iranian vessels in the Persian Gulf, and the swarming of ‘little boats’ under the cover of advanced anti-ship missiles and subs, little is seen by the public.
Occasionally there will be some pushing and shoving which usually involves the US and UK being humbled in some way – such as the very well reported capturing of British sailors by Iran (Twice!) right under the noses of British and US warships, and also the humiliating capturing of US Spec Ops and sailors (Twice!), again right under the noses of British and US warships, but other than that the conflict has not been seen much by the public via the MSM.
However the conflict continues and has become ‘hot’ to a limited extent recently. Notable is the use of submarine warfare and special forces/commandos led sabotage. This is now escalating into ‘tit for tat’ pop-up and punch naval attacks (very limited at the moment).
So far these pop-up and punch naval attacks seen to be little more than demonstrations of capability by various sides – with more recent ‘on board’ attacks (as opposed to above the waterline from the waterline mine placing) being used by Israel to perhaps demonstrate an enhanced capability.
It is clear to the trained eye that there have also been encounters between Iranian anti-submarine warfare units and the US/UK/Israel, to the point that the US, UK, and Israel take Iran’s submarine and anti-submarine warfare capability very seriously.
It was very noticeable that a recent transit of the Persian Gulf by a US sub was made on the surface – a demonstration by the US that there was no hostile intent (the plot thickens on that incident, especially as an Iranian ASW helicopter with a an anti-sub torpedo was filmed covering the transit).
Such a transit is akin to a soldier – although still armed – walking through a check point with both hands raised and his weapon slung/secured.
Iran has made no secret that it has a capable submarine fleet which contains approx 40 subs of various types, including 3 (known) Kilo class Soviet era subs.
It has been suspected that Iran has used submarines to support operations in Yemen.
But this is where things get interesting and many analysts miss – at least one submarine (type unknown) has been used as a mule for experiments with nuclear propulsion. It is suspected that this program may be as advanced as Brasil’s: https://www.wilsoncenter.org/blog-post/the-long-history-brazils-nuclear-submarine-program
Notably, one Iranian Kilo class sub has also been reported as being “heavily modified”. It is unknown if this is being / has been upgraded to launch cruise missiles, is being used for special operations, or is part of the nuclear propulsion program.
There is speculation that Iran is much further along with their nuclear propulsion program than the west realize, possibly further than Brasil (if using Chinese assistance). The unusual and difficult movement of a Kilo sub out of the sea and across land for ‘repairs’ in 2020 added to the speculation that experiments with advanced propulsion methods are well advanced and the Kilo is being used to test aspects of technology, if not an actual reactor:
It is unknown if China is helping Iran with submarine development – or if they will eventually simply ‘sell’ subs to Iran, but as a barter deal of gas fields for subs and oil for aircraft has been suggested this may be a possibility the US and Israel will seek to block.
If Iran is well advanced in working towards indigenous nuclear reactors for submarine propulsion, this would more likely represent a greater threat to US (and UK and Israeli) domination in the region than a nuclear weapons program. With nuclear powered subs Iran could effectively “check” any navy in the region, and even potentially support / escort shipping as far away as Venezuela.
This may be the real reason the US/UK/Israel are foaming at the mouth over Iran’s nuclear program and research reactors. Submarine propulsion development as opposed to weapons development is arguably a more usable game-changer / equalizer.
Just something to think about, nothing more………
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