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Iranian Chill Thread

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Initial reports refuting your hypothesis. Still a lot to develop till April 2023/eventual map changes.

So far of course possibilities and nothing certain.

Again window to talk to Eu and US should never get closed by us. “Walk away” tactics are ok but as a strategy it should stay open.

We need to talk to US and Eu about their short time need of energy until they find supplied that they trust. This is a transaction for them not strategy.

Strategy is keeping Iran contained.
Maybe, MAYBE the idea of military support from Iran is not as ludicrious as I thought. If UAVs are really transported it would take a bit of time for training and deployment on these systems before they may be seen. If Iran wanted some NLAWS and Javelins from Russia it would not have needed this many flights.
 
I really do not undrestan the obsession with getting hold of Javlin missies..... Iran already got hold of the Spike missile and mass produces it under the name Almas.... by most accounts the Spike is a better fire and forget ATGM. Why waste more resources on producing the same thing?!!!

And lets not forget how many varieties of ATGMs Iran makes.....
Dehlaviyeh (koncorse), sereval verieties of TOW, Dragon, RPG 18, RPG 30..... how many countries have these many varieties of ATGM products?!!
 
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I really do not undrestan the obsession with getting hold of Javlin missies..... Iran already got hold of the Spike missile and mass produces it under the name Almas.... by most accounts the Spike is a better fire and forget ATGM. Why waste more resources on producing the same thing?!!!

And lets not forget how many varieties of ATGMs Iran makes.....
Dehlaviyeh (koncorse), sereval verieties of TOW, Dragon, RPG 18, RPG 30..... how many countries have these many varieties of ATGM products?!!

Spike is Iran’s only fire and forget top attack weapon. So Iran does need a 2nd alternative.

The ones you mentioned are all direct attack and not fire and forget thus crew is exposed for longer period of time.

Top attack is more superior to direct attack since it’s harder for tank to defend and its top is less well armoured than the front/sides/and turret.

Downside is cost both spike and javelin cost $200K+. I’m curious how much Iran can produce it for vs it’s existing ATGM line.

If Iran can produce it for 20-30K it is a very worth addition to elite units. Maybe not a weapon you give guerrilla forces in large quantities, but good for your own forces.
 
He is a total asshat isn't he? lol

Still, interesting movements imo. Could be something, could be nothing just interesting as to what's been going on.

Well I know there is a military competition going on in Russia right now and Iran is participating. Some IRGC/Artesh officers also attend Russian military academies as well. Add in the IRGC related business interests in Russia that extend beyond just military and you have a lot of conjecture and not enough facts.

As for the flights, I imagine Iran can give small arms ammo, mortars, RPGs, Russian based anti tank missiles, artillery shells—things that cannot be easily traced back to Iran as point of origin or have plausible deniability (like Iranian ATGMs showing up in Libya). Another question is how much “old stock” and current stockpile does Iran have after supplying Syrian war effort for a decade on top of supplying Houthis/Hamas/Hezbollah/PMU. We saw the US deplete 1/3 their javelin stockpile in just weeks.

As for UAVs or other very easily identifiable high profile systems, it really comes down to wether Iran has decided to remain largely neutral or not.

Guess we will soon find out
 
As for the flights, I imagine Iran can give small arms ammo, mortars, RPGs, Russian based anti tank missiles, artillery shells—things that cannot be easily traced back to Iran as point of origin or have plausible deniability (like Iranian ATGMs showing up in Libya).
You'd imagine they'd have more than enough of their own inventory to need anything from Iran.
 
You'd imagine they'd have more than enough of their own inventory to need anything from Iran.

You have to understand while production costs are low due to economies of scale, storage costs can be high especially with military munitions. You cannot just store it in a city or just anywhere.

This is why Sony doesn’t produce a gazillion PS5’s, besides the factor of production rate, is also the storage costs. If it sits too long it ends up being a loss for the company. Also needing to add security to the storage areas to prevent theft or just an idiot exploring.

So imagine now in regards to ammunition and munitions, there is limited storage and costs to maintain are significant. Also certain things have a shelf life and it could years or decades or never if they Are used. Or else every country in the world would just keep producing and make their entire country one big *** ammo warehouse.
 

This must be the big Bad China we hear so much about challenging the West :rolleyes1:

China hoping if it plays nice with Western led world order, US wont pivot to Asia to contain China.

Xi should ask Putin how well that strategy worked in last 20 years...


Sometimes it’s like Iran is the only country with balls in the world anymore, granted they aren’t as steel-like as we would like (see Israeli strikes in Syria and Solemani assassination), but damn if they don’t put Russia and China’s to shame.
 

This must be the big Bad China we hear so much about challenging the West :rolleyes1:

China hoping if it plays nice with Western led world order, US wont pivot to Asia to contain China.

Xi should ask Putin how well that strategy worked in last 20 years...


Sometimes it’s like Iran is the only country with balls in the world anymore, granted they aren’t as steel-like as we would like (see Israeli strikes in Syria and Solemani assassination), but damn if they don’t put Russia and China’s to shame.
Dude, IR is busy negotiating to let the white man install cameras in their backyard. Meanwhile China possesses the capability to turn the US mainland into a parking lot for the coming hundred years.
China knows until it has not the economic strength required to effectively challenge the US it has to play nicely. Mean while they have everything required for being a (future) superpower.

Your comparison and attempt at ridiculing China is a joke. Might be true about Russia.
 
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