Iranian Chill Thread

[zartosht]

Maybe just maybe Iran can get some shiny new weapons from Russia. Although Russia will avoid pissing off Israel. So doubt it. Israel has stayed pretty mum about Russia-Ukraine.

If anything this is proving how brilliant Irans current strategy is. What does Iran need from Russia exactly?

Russia has essentially neutralized the entire ukrainian air force in a day with pressing buttons safely from Russia. This shows how devastating Iranian missiles will be in war.

thats why the US and soviets had soo many strategic treaties regarding medium range missles. They are soo devastating that they would cause instability.

The US sells these arabs everything EXCEPT missiles. They went out of their way to make sure egypt shut their missile program down. What you see right now, is exactly what Iran will do to these persian gulf arabs, and american bases in the event of a war.

 

[QWECXZ]

If anything this is proving how brilliant Irans current strategy is. What does Iran need from Russia exactly?

Russia has essentially neutralized the entire ukrainian air force in a day with pressing buttons safely from Russia. This shows how devastating Iranian missiles will be in war.

thats why the US and soviets had soo many strategic treaties regarding medium range missles. They are soo devastating that they would cause instability.

The US sells these arabs everything EXCEPT missiles. They went out of their way to make sure egypt shut their missile program down. What you see right now, is exactly what Iran will do to these persian gulf arabs, and american bases in the event of a war.

Well, Ukraine didn't have a potent air force to begin with. If they had purchased Western jet fighters, it might've been slightly different. Russia would still prevail because well, it's Russia; but Ukraine could've shown some resistance and increase the cost of war for Russia.

People who insist that Iran needs to upgrade its air force do not mean that it could be effectively used against the United States, but they are rather talking about potential regional adversaries like Saudi Arabia, Turkey, Emirates or Israel.

 

[retaxis]

Hope Iran becomes a regional superpower instead of those wahabi jihadists and pan turkists. Good luck to Iran from China!

 

[zartosht]

Well, Ukraine didn't have a potent air force to begin with. If they had purchased Western jet fighters, it might've been slightly different. Russia would still prevail because well, it's Russia; but Ukraine could've shown some resistance and increase the cost of war for Russia.

Id still be doubtful.. An aircraft is only as strong as its supporting infastracture. Russia has almost certainly attacked all the radar stations, repair facilities, runways, troop barracks, and command control structures.

I doubt it would make much of a difference even if ukraines air force was more modern.

 

[QWECXZ]

Id still be doubtful.. An aircraft is only as strong as its supporting infastracture. Russia has almost certainly attacked all the radar stations, repair facilities, runways, troop barracks, and command control structures.

I doubt it would make much of a difference even if ukraines air force was more modern.

You're right, but I am not talking about Ukraine per se, I am talking about comparing Ukraine's needs to Iran's.
Unlike Ukraine, if Iran can get her hands on modern fighter jets, we have the infrastructure to defend our airports and put our fighter jets to good use against our regional competitors and adversaries. And we are also capable of launching massive preemptive attacks.

 

[retaxis]

Iran stands up to anglo axis powers, Israel, Jihadi extremists across middle east and even illuminati/freemasons/powerful bankers etc. How is it that Iran can still stand on its two feet?

 

[MyNameAintJeff]

You're right, but I am not talking about Ukraine per se, I am talking about comparing Ukraine's needs to Iran's.
Unlike Ukraine, if Iran can get her hands on modern fighter jets, we have the infrastructure to defend our airports and put our fighter jets to good use against our regional competitors and adversaries. And we are also capable of launching massive preemptive attacks.

The risk of losing them to a US attack might not justify the money spent on them.
That money could give much more value if invested in other military solutions.

 

[QWECXZ]

The risk of losing them to a US attack might not justify the money spent on them.
That money could give much more value if invested in other military solutions.

Missiles are an expensive solution to compensate for the firepower that modern fighter jets can provide. I know that Iran has been working on reducing the costs for decades, but still, a proper modern fighter jet can be reused many times (sure, it has maintenance costs) and each time it can do what 10-20 missiles can achieve.

Again, the IRIAF will never stop the US, but it can definitely change the balance of power in the region in favor of Iran.

 

[Battlion25]

If anything this is proving how brilliant Irans current strategy is. What does Iran need from Russia exactly?

Russia has essentially neutralized the entire ukrainian air force in a day with pressing buttons safely from Russia. This shows how devastating Iranian missiles will be in war.

thats why the US and soviets had soo many strategic treaties regarding medium range missles. They are soo devastating that they would cause instability.

The US sells these arabs everything EXCEPT missiles. They went out of their way to make sure egypt shut their missile program down. What you see right now, is exactly what Iran will do to these persian gulf arabs, and american bases in the event of a war.

Missiles is only for small scale stragetic asset targets it alters nothing but it is the Russian air force and conventional forces you should look at...

The running joke on PDF continues? The Russian missiles is doing minimum scale damage because 1. Ukraine has poor ADS 2. russia gained air superiority and destroyed most of the ADS.

Besides if Ukraine had just f16s with bvr the air battles would have been fought over russian air space..

What is doing damage is the Russian air force and conventional superiority.. Not missiles they do minimum scale damage such as stragetic assets ala Hamas but you gotta take it conventionally to the foe that is what Russia focused since soviet union era...

Besides Iran could find some success with Israel due to poor stragetic depth and tiny pool of manpower.. Whereas the GCC and alliance co will devastate Iran beyond believe within just first 24 hours of engagement plus they have an infinite amount of manpower and logistical might to come inside Iran militarily and fight village for village liberation.. Going thru the right phases of engagement.. They have top notch ADS and vast air superiority to cripple Iran within 24 hours followed by an entire ocean conventional forces.. Iran wouldnt last 1-2 years...

 

[aryobarzan]

Another interesting point to discuss later for us Iranians:

• never trust words of US or any body
• never give up your weapons especially nuclear weapons.. Something for our Supreme leader to consider..

https://twitter.com/x/status/1496730654699966468

 

[Battlion25]

Hope Iran becomes a regional superpower instead of those wahabi jihadists and pan turkists. Good luck to Iran from China!

Bring this chinese clown... And see if he can prevent an assault on Iran.. He will wake up singing for Chinese roasted duck

 

[Muhammad Saftain Anjum]

Missiles is only for small scale stragetic asset targets it alters nothing but it is the Russian air force and conventional forces you should look at...

The running joke on PDF continues? The Russian missiles is doing minimum scale damage because 1. Ukraine has poor ADS 2. russia gained air superiority and destroyed most of the ADS.

Besides if Ukraine had just f16s with bvr the air battles would have been fought over russian air space..

What is doing damage is the Russian air force and conventional superiority.. Not missiles they do minimum scale damage such as stragetic assets ala Hamas but you gotta take it conventionally to the foe that is what Russia focused since soviet union era...

Besides Iran could find some success with Israel due to poor stragetic depth and tiny pool of manpower.. Whereas the GCC and alliance co will devastate Iran beyond believe within just first 24 hours of engagement plus they have an infinite amount of manpower and logistical might to come inside Iran militarily and fight village for village liberation.. Going thru the right phases of engagement.. They have top notch ADS and vast air superiority to cripple Iran within 24 hours followed by an entire ocean conventional forces.. Iran wouldnt last 1-2 years...

Ukraine is under huge economic pressure.Had we little long sightedness we could have got engine technology from them. .Alas Russians are not going to leave them now.We missed so much opportunities in past also ( BVR and Cheetah Fighter jet opportunity with south Africa was also missed)

 

[R2D2]

Pakistan, Afghanistan and Iran should do trade in local currencies with each other without customs duties.

 

[jauk]

The propaganda against Russia's reabsorption of Ukraine is fascinating. Classic crying and dead women and children, Russian soldiers surrendering, aircraft bombing a grand ma, western based athletes and movie stars crying foul, 'demonstrations' in Moscow against Russia. and the best of all:
'Putin' invaded Ukraine. The demonization of a person.

 

[Muhammad Saftain Anjum]

Pakistan, Afghanistan and Iran should do trade in local currencies with each other without customs duties.

Pak-Afghanistan relations are not good and same is our case with Iran.
So your idea is not bad but its not applicable at least in this decade.