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Culturally backward because they see the clerics as somehow special people. These people are risky/dangerous and could be used to kill students like in 2009 or to attack cultural/archaeological sites.
respectfully i see them almost the opposite and the majority of village people are literate now... it is not correct to talk about %35 of your people like this even if they seem different to you and even if they still accept their clergies.

@haman10 Che khabar dadash? You've been absent for a while. Koobi? Busy with job? :D
he is banned from iranian section i believe
 
I'm just adding this picture here because I dont know where else to post it,

Iran-vs-USA.jpg
Nice picture.
 
respectfully i see them almost the opposite and the majority of village people are literate now... it is not correct to talk about %35 of your people like this even if they seem different to you and even if they still accept their clergies.
I'm not disrespecting them, I even respect them for their courage, especially during the war. I've families in some villages.

I'm just mentioning what's going on, some clergies have declared war against Iranian culture and history, so we have the right to declare cultural war against them. They started this war, not us.
 
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nemidoonam chera inghadr pichide shod chizi ke mikhastam begam, amma kholasash ine ke to dar ghalbe maee aziz.
 
I'm not disrespecting them, I even respect them for their courage, especially during the war. I've families in some villages.

I'm just mentioning what's going on, some clergies have declared war against Iranian culture and history, so we have the right to declare cultural war against them. They started this war, not us.
there is no war my friend... what you see as village man listening to their Iranian clergies is Iranian's major culture and religion for centuries... but the way these akhunds are all Iranians too and been in this position for centuries and still the majority like it to be this way...I'm not defending them but saying like it or not this was and is our culture for a looong time my friend.... when some phenomenon exists in one community for centuries... it is a part of that community's culture
 
there is no war my friend... what you see as village man listening to their Iranian clergies is Iranian's major culture and religion for centuries... but the way these akhunds are all Iranians too and been in this position for centuries and still the majority like it to be this way...I'm not defending them but saying like it or not this was and is our culture for a looong time my friend.... when some phenomenon exists in one community for centuries... it is a part of that community's culture

Akhoonda zede farhang va tarikhe Irani nemijangan? Doshmani nadaran ba farhango tarikhe Irani? Kio dari sare kar mizari dadash. Chand darsade poole mellat kharje farhango tarikhe Iran shode? chand darsad kharje in namayeshhaye karbalayi shodi, kharje emamzadeha. Baraye ina farhang yani sinezani, hamin o bas.

As long as they don't accept plurality in Iranian culture we declare war on them. When plurality is accepted, we'll leave them alone. For now we're more motivated and enthusiast than them, they're in decline and have brought westernization into the country by leaving no Iranian alternative.

Man poole kar dar miyaram ye ghesmatesho kharje farhange Iran mikonam (Encyclopedia Iranica). Dar ayande mikham goorooh tashkil bedam ba Iraniaye movafagh ke ye lobby dorost konim baraye poshtibani farhange Irani.

Muslim Kurds abandon their religion to Zoroastrianism to escape "extremism"
 
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Akhoonda zede farhang va tarikhe Irani nemijangan? Doshmani nadaran ba farhango tarikhe Irani? Kio dari sare kar mizari dadash. Chand darsade poole mellat kharje farhango tarikhe Iran shode? chand darsad kharje in namayeshhaye karbalayi shodi, kharje emamzadeha. Baraye ina farhang yani sinezani, hamin o bas.

As long as they don't accept plurality in Iranian culture we declare war on them. When plurality is accepted, we'll leave them alone. For now we're more motivated and enthusiast than them, they're in decline and have brought westernization into the country by leaving no Iranian alternative.

Man pooli kar day miyaram ye ghesmatesho kharje farhange Iran mikonam (Encyclopedia Iranica). Dar ayande mikham goorooh tashkil bedam ba Iraniaye movafagh ke ye lobby dorost konim baraye poshtibani farhange Irani.

Muslim Kurds abandon their religion to Zoroastrianism to escape "extremism"

Lots of actions need to be done to perfect that new trend (I mean a general nationalistic awakening after 36 years of the Revolution). Persians can stay Muslims if they want. No one can either keep them Muslims or make them leave Islam, except themselves. It looks like "forcing" is no longer possible, let alone acceptable. I mean look at the power that individuals have today, and the powers individuals had 180 - 200 years ago. Every individual now can have his/her own Youtube channel to broadcast to the whole world (a sweet dream 20 years ago) - with all the ideas and thoughts they want to spread. Persians are suffering from a sever cultural complexity. They have generally accepted Islam, but hated the people where Islam originated from. They hated them for every possible reason. Their neighbors (Arabs) did the same thing too. Persians couldn't really cope with the idea that Arabs whose culture can be fairly described as nomadic, have brought a new religion to them.

New rituals, new names, prayers, costumes...etc. They saw them as very inferior ugly folks that weren't worth the simplest form of respect. That's why, it is engraved in the Persian mind, that there is a sense of imperfection about their lives - no matter how perfect it looks. You don't see this with most other Muslims. They accept Islam as their religion and as part of their culture without any "what ifs". Persians (the most dominate linguist, and cultural group in Iran) look down to themselves at certain moments in the day for having shared cultural aspects with Arabs (the use of Arabic language casually or at prayers, hearing/using Arabic names every day....etc). Whenever they like something, they fear this might be an Arab thing, and try either to reject it, or justify having it. They feel a lot of pain and deep regret, but they try to look the other way, before rethinking about it again.
 
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Lots of actions need to be done to perfect that new trend (I mean a general nationalistic awakening after 36 years of the Revolution). Persians can stay Muslims if they want, no one can either keep them Muslims or make them leave it, except themselves. It looks like "forcing" is no longer possible, let alone acceptable. I mean look at the power that individuals have today, and the powers individuals had 180 - 200 years ago. Every individual now can have his/her own Youtube channel to broadcast to the whole world (a sweet dream 20 years ago) - with all the ideas and thoughts they want to spread. Persians are suffering from a sever cultural complexity. They have generally accepted Islam, but hated the people where Islam originated from. They hated them for every possible reason. Their neighbors (Arabs) did the same thing too. Persians couldn't really cope with the idea that Arabs whose culture can be fairly described as nomadic, have brought a new religion to them.

New rituals, new names, prayers, costumes...etc. They saw them as very inferior ugly folks that weren't worth the simplest form of respect. That's why, it is engraved in the Persian mind, that there is a sense of imperfection about their lives - no matter how perfect it looks. You don't see this with most other Muslims. They accept Islam as their religion and as part of their culture without any "what ifs". Persians (the most dominate linguist, and cultural group in Iran) look down to themselves at certain moments in the day for having shared cultural aspects with Arabs (the use of Arabic language casually or at prayers, hearing/using Arabic names every day....etc). Whenever they like something, they fear this might be an Arab thing, and try either to reject it, or justify having it. They feel a lot of pain and deep regret, but they try to look the other way, before rethinking about it again.
There is no any severe cultural complexity as people know their culture and habits. Religions and ethnic groups live in peace with each other and we will not allow any saudi or Jordanian or wahabi or other kind of anti-Iranians dream about internal conflicts in Iran. No any problems with Islam (as during shah era which was really western and pushed for modern way of life which came in conflict with shia Islam).

Our main problem in Iran is pure political and about corruption, people to people have no problems (compare it to Iraq, Syria, fomer Yugoslavia).

Just like Kurds, and Turks and Afghans and hui Chinese or any other nation we've our own culture besides religion. No one is controlling who fasts, who gives islamic names to their children and who not, who prays or who not. Besides shia Islam, the majusi version of Islam as some sunnis call it, we have almost no real similarities with arabs (outside of the common similarities of middle east/region), and we don't feel any regret or fear or any theory that you have spend days to think about :rofl: neither do we have a Persian project for the region. Anything new?
 
There is no any severe cultural complexity as people know their culture and habits. Religions and ethnic groups live in peace with each other and we will not allow any saudi or Jordanian or wahabi or other kind of anti-Iranians dream about internal conflicts in Iran. No any problems with Islam (as during shah era which was really western and pushed for modern way of life which came in conflict with shia Islam).

Our main problem in Iran is pure political and about corruption, people to people have no problems (compare it to Iraq, Syria, fomer Yugoslavia).

Just like Kurds, and Turks and Afghans and hui Chinese or any other nation we've our own culture besides religion. No one is controlling who fasts, who gives islamic names to their children and who not, who prays or who not. Besides shia Islam, the majusi version of Islam as some sunnis call it, we have almost no real similarities with arabs (outside of the common similarities of middle east/region), and we don't feel any regret or fear or any theory that you have spend days to think about :rofl: neither do we have a Persian project for the region. Anything new?

I see what you have tried to say. But you appear to deny that millions of Persians are unhappy/and unsatisfied with the destiny that made Islam their nation's religion? Do you deny this? Answer me first, and will talk.
 
I see what you have tried to say. But you appear to deny that millions of Persians are unhappy/and unsatisfied with the destiny that made Islam their nation's religion? Do you deny this? Answer me first, and will talk.
Majority are muslim, millions has no meaning in Iran. 5% of Iran are already seen as millions, while at least 75% are moderate muslims, so they don't think about these things (their destiny etc), except small part of nationalists (maybe comparable to situation of atheists living in religious states). Compare it with Christianity in the west, people don't care. If they don't like it they can become atheist, people can give their children persian names, they can drink alcohol during ramadan etc. For example I know an Iranian azeri girl, she prays, does ramadan. She is Iranian and she is free to believe what she likes. I like her, she likes me, there is a chance that we marry. We've a democratic mindset which set us apart.from radicals.
 
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Lots of actions need to be done to perfect that new trend (I mean a general nationalistic awakening after 36 years of the Revolution). Persians can stay Muslims if they want. No one can either keep them Muslims or make them leave Islam, except themselves. It looks like "forcing" is no longer possible, let alone acceptable. I mean look at the power that individuals have today, and the powers individuals had 180 - 200 years ago. Every individual now can have his/her own Youtube channel to broadcast to the whole world (a sweet dream 20 years ago) - with all the ideas and thoughts they want to spread. Persians are suffering from a sever cultural complexity. They have generally accepted Islam, but hated the people where Islam originated from. They hated them for every possible reason. Their neighbors (Arabs) did the same thing too. Persians couldn't really cope with the idea that Arabs whose culture can be fairly described as nomadic, have brought a new religion to them.

New rituals, new names, prayers, costumes...etc. They saw them as very inferior ugly folks that weren't worth the simplest form of respect. That's why, it is engraved in the Persian mind, that there is a sense of imperfection about their lives - no matter how perfect it looks. You don't see this with most other Muslims. They accept Islam as their religion and as part of their culture without any "what ifs". Persians (the most dominate linguist, and cultural group in Iran) look down to themselves at certain moments in the day for having shared cultural aspects with Arabs (the use of Arabic language casually or at prayers, hearing/using Arabic names every day....etc). Whenever they like something, they fear this might be an Arab thing, and try either to reject it, or justify having it. They feel a lot of pain and deep regret, but they try to look the other way, before rethinking about it again.
So when you are going to go back to your pagan arab religion or Christianity maybe your ancestors were christains and became muslims since you are najdi and Najd had Christians in that time
 
@Serpentine , @rmi5 just told me that I was thread banned from Iranian Chill Thread. Is this true? Have I been relieved of this ban? Or is he just making stuff up about me again...:dirol:
 

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