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Iranian Chief of General Staff arrives in Pakistan

See what good news awaits us out of this Iran visit to Pakistan

recently, our Iran neighbour lost its mind when Taliban kicked out there enemy usa Satan occupier from Kabul lol . There X president to serving MPs were hostile to the USA loss in Afghanistan. There madness drove them to Delhi find a common response. all this is justified by them saying Pakistanis are Saudis and turkey brothers friends of Israel weird paranoid sect driven by hate I can not see any improvement between us. there caught terrorists activities in Pakistan is legendary on regular bases
 
You seem to have no understanding of history or anything. I do not blame you, the majority of Pakistanis on the internet have zero information of anything to their west.

Azeris are Medes Iranics from Northwestern Iranic plateau who because of Oghuz migrations got turkified (on average 15-20% genetic uptake and rest is cultural). Medes in pure form today are Kurds which is why we azeris usually cluster closest to our blood brothers Kurds genetically, even higher than Anatolain turkish who are more like hellenized armenoids. Ever since our synthesis which happened inside Iran, we have crushed enemies of Iran to east and west. Aq Qovanlu, Safavid, Afshar, Qajar, Shamlu, Dulkadirs etc etc these are all Iranian Turks who revived Iran to its borders. And this has been happening for the past 900 years. The guy sitting with your army general is a turk too and so is ... Imam Khamenei.



More lack of knowledge by you. We follow Shia Islam that came from Qizilbash Conversion of Iranic lands to Shia religion in 15th century. If my ancestorial Qizlbash wanted, they could have converted the mighty Safavid empire to Turkic Tengrism or Perso Zarostrianism but no we chose Shia Islam (Surkh Jamon => Zahidiya => Safaviya orders) by our own choice not by invasion lol. Who could have dared to subdue Qizilbash at their peak. Shia or whatever (I am not even religious) this is our own choice, no one invaded us to be this. For past 1400 years no ARAB HAS EVER SET HIS FOOT ON IRANIAN LAND AS INVADER. In our 3500 years history arabs ruled some parts of iran for 132 years in total when Persian superpower was exhausted from constant fighting with Byzantines. While rest of the times we have ruled Arab lands. Learn history before talking like how you people do.
cause we don't care and I don't know/care about what this guy is or is not
like its none of my concern

My reason for quoting you was because you were saying Pakistanis are religious converts due to Turko-Persian invasions (to show your giga chad side) and you said it in a condescending manner, I said cant convert because of invasions there are saints involved and conversions was a slow process, it took centuries to slowly convert everyone, with free will

instead you gave me a paragraph about the other side I don't know or care about nor was I pointing towards it, my point was something else
 
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am not against your country. I just love my own race and nation more.
I respect that but never forget Pakistan is home to the largest Iranic populations Pakhtun/Baloch] outside of Iran.

We follow version of Islam that we created during Qizilbash Saffaviya empire
The Islam that majority follow again is mostly made locally - it is vastly differant from that followed in the Arab world. Nothing surprising about this. Every faith or ism eventually is flavoured by the local environment in which it is sustained. But fact is Islam is a Arab product with regional permutations.

we could have become satanists or tengrists or zarostrians if we would have wanted. But we chose Islam
We also 'chose' Islam just like you. How come you 'choose' it is cool but we 'choose' it and it's turned into something else?
 
Stuck with this Kulbashan Yadav. Even my grandchildren will hear this Yadav Padav matter. "They are allowing their land to be used by India" - utter misleading nonsense.
There is no non sense here. Iran gave Chahbahar port to India fully knowing how they will use it for their nefarious designs. Chahbahar is now a hub of their espionage activities. BRAS terrorists which also include ISKP terrorists and TTP now regularly use Pak Iran border to target Pakistani forces. Just bcz you are turning a blind eye to their activities doesnt mean you innocent. Crime of passive abetting is a crime nonetheless. Then there is matter of Zanibyoun terrorists being arrested from dens of Sindhi nationalist purely an indian sponsored endeavour. Irani Mullahcracy never had stomach to tolerate Sunnis anywhere in the world.
 
There is no non sense here. Iran gave Chahbahar port to India fully knowing how they will use it for their nefarious designs. Chahbahar is now a hub of their espionage activities. BRAS terrorists which also include ISKP terrorists and TTP now regularly use Pak Iran border to target Pakistani forces. Just bcz you are turning a blind eye to their activities doesnt mean you innocent. Crime of passive abetting is a crime nonetheless. Then there is matter of Zanibyoun terrorists being arrested from dens of Sindhi nationalist purely an indian sponsored endeavour. Irani Mullahcracy never had stomach to tolerate Sunnis anywhere in the world.
This amount of idiocy and retardness in one person is beyond belief. But i think that it stems from India obsession in some Pakistanis.

I have seen people in your class called Iran American ally working with USA to destabilize Pakistan :lol:

Either you guys are being played by internal liberals or you are a part of that media campaign against Iran.

Yadhav was created in UAE, after being arrested inside Pakistan, Pakistani officials ironically completely denied any Iranian involvement. But some trolls constantly repeat his name.

Btw, the coolest part of your quote was calling zaynabiyoun volunteers, the Indian creation. This is a God damn record in the field of obsession.
 
People on this board are so far away from ground reality. Iran has been Pakistan's strategic depth during the hard times of this country and military personnel of Pakistani armed forces didn't fotger this very fact.

Israeli words coming out of the mouth of Israeli appointees in Azerbaijan cannot cause strategic problems in the region but only helps the regional partners to come closer and solve the issues. I would take this as a positive development in the region.

That was Shah's Iran.
Khomeni's iran has been an enemy.
and mind you, if there is ONE thing, that has kept USA and co making a BBQ out of Iran, then that is Pakistan.
Imagine American planes taking off from Pakistani bases and ground troops entering from Balochistan.
Iran's weakest part.
 
That was Shah's Iran.
Khomeni's iran has been an enemy.
and mind you, if there is ONE thing, that has kept USA and co making a BBQ out of Iran, then that is Pakistan.
Imagine American planes taking off from Pakistani bases and ground troops entering from Balochistan.
Iran's weakest part.
Not that much sir.

Iran's weakest part is the southern coast lines well Protected by IRGC forces.

Morover Americans don't need Pakistan that much having multiple bases all over Arab lands Plus Israeli bases and Turkish ones.

All those bases will smoke the moment Americans do anything wrong. Iran can roast Americans any time
 
This amount of idiocy and retardness in one person is beyond belief. But i think that it stems from India obsession in some Pakistanis.

I have seen people in your class called Iran American ally working with USA to destabilize Pakistan :lol:

Either you guys are being played by internal liberals or you are a part of that media campaign against Iran.

Yadhav was created in UAE, after being arrested inside Pakistan, Pakistani officials ironically completely denied any Iranian involvement. But some trolls constantly repeat his name.

Btw, the coolest part of your quote was calling zaynabiyoun volunteers, the Indian creation. This is a God damn record in the field of obsession.

Iran is a known spoiler of peace. Just yesterday Turkey arrested 8 Irani agents who were planning kidnappings and assinations. We also arrested zanibyoun terrorists from dens of SRA hideouts. They were planning to target sunni religious leaders. It is a matter of record not a conspiracy theory.

Question you should be asking did you ever capture a Turkish or Pakistani agents working for their govts in your midst? Why it is always Iran acting as peace spoiler? Rather than barking on other for your Mullahs learn to respect other so they might treat you more of human beings and less of scum.
 
Why don't you think ?

Imagine Iraq's invasion, would the allies perform the same without the land assault ?
now compare that with Afghanistan; where even though they had land base in the country;
the local supply wasn't enough yet the amount of damage they did.



Not that much sir.

Iran's weakest part is the southern coast lines well Protected by IRGC forces.

Morover Americans don't need Pakistan that much having multiple bases all over Arab lands Plus Israeli bases and Turkish ones.

All those bases will smoke the moment Americans do anything wrong. Iran can roast Americans any time
 
Why don't you think ?

Imagine Iraq's invasion, would the allies perform the same without the land assault ?
now compare that with Afghanistan; where even though they had land base in the country;
the local supply wasn't enough yet the amount of damage they did.
Iraq was just a push over after receiving multiple punches from Iran and the international embargo on Saddam.

Iran is a completely different case, we will destroy anyone that gives Americans any chance to hurt our interests.
 
They have good relationship with EU and POTUS.
However, they do carry out terrorisms against Arab states, but without sustained supplies of militias they are in crunch at the moment?

Iran has minimal relations with EU regimes, which are hostile towards Iran. As for the US, it is an enemy state to Iran. Iran does not carry out "terrorism".

I will refer to COVID spread in Pakistan, wherein Iran regime and ministers of Pakistan's ruling party were partner in pushing people to and from Iran, during peak of COVID in Iran.

There's no proof that COVID entered Pakistan from Iran and even if it did, it was bound to spread to Pakistan anyway. Nor was anyone "pushed" to or from Iran, they traveled by their own volition.

Justifying IRGC by referring to Isis is not convincing either, while ground reality of Isis in Afghanistan is that they are attacking Taliban, sooner than later question will pop, who let Isis in to Afghanistan?

NATO. As well as the former Taleban who joined "I"SIS.


Ahmadinejad's opposed to the ruling establishment. Nobody except for his limited group of supporters is taking him seriously anymore.


So trying to bring to justice what might well be a traitor plotting with foreign powers against Iran's security is a crime?

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recently, our Iran neighbour lost its mind when Taliban kicked out there enemy usa Satan occupier from Kabul lol . There X president to serving MPs were hostile to the USA loss in Afghanistan.

Not really. The IRGC had established a working relationship with the Taleban for years. Mullah Mansoor was cooperating with Iran, he had just crossed the border into Pakistan when the US regime assassinated him in a drone strike. Since the Taleban takeover, Iran's water issue with Afghanistan was peacefully resolved, Iran and Taleban cooperated in transferring Ismail Khan to Iran, economic ties are flourishing with Afghanistan resuming fuel imports from Iran and so on.

Ahmadinejad and liberal MP's who were calling for action against the Taleban are in the opposition. They don't represent the establishment of Iran, they don't represent the current administration of President Raisi, they don't even represent the majority in parliament, nor do they speak for the IRGC and the Quds Force.

There madness drove them to Delhi find a common response.

Iran has already formulated its own approach towards Afghanistan.

all this is justified by them saying Pakistanis are Saudis and turkey brothers friends of Israel weird paranoid sect driven by hate I can not see any improvement between us.

In the context of its policy towards Afghanistan, Iran never evoked Pakistan's ties with Saudi Arabia and Turkey.

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There is no non sense here. Iran gave Chahbahar port to India fully knowing how they will use it for their nefarious designs.

Not necessarily.

Chahbahar is now a hub of their espionage activities. BRAS terrorists which also include ISKP terrorists and TTP now regularly use Pak Iran border to target Pakistani forces.

Most attacks do not happen close to the border with Iran.

Zanibyoun terrorists being arrested from dens of Sindhi nationalist purely an indian sponsored endeavour.

What act of terrorism did the Zeynabioun commit? As for Sindhi nationalists, whoever wants to believe such bizarre claims is free to do so, it won't make them any more realistic.

Irani Mullahcracy never had stomach to tolerate Sunnis anywhere in the world.

Maybe that's why the Islamic Republic of Iran played a central role in saving Sunni Bosnians during the 1990's civil war. Backed Sunni Muslim Afghans in their struggle against Soviet occupation in the 1980's. Assisted Sunni Muslim Kurds of Iraq under imminent threat from "I"SIS. Has entire Sunni Muslim brigades formed within the pro-Iranian PMU paramilitary of Iraq. Is the only state on earth to dare arm the Palestinian Resistance made of Sunni Muslims.

Maybe that's also why over the past 40+ years, Sunni Muslim Iranians have enjoyed greater safety than minorities in neighboring countries. Maybe that's why a Sunni Muslim alim was invited to co-author the Constitution of the Islamic Republic of Iran in 1979. Maybe that's why proportionally to population, there are more Sunni mosques in Iran than Shia mosques. Maybe that's why a Sunni Muslim was just recently nominated as commander in chief of the Iranian Navy. And so on, and so forth.

Iran is a known spoiler of peace. Just yesterday Turkey arrested 8 Irani agents who were planning kidnappings and assinations.

What kidnappings (plural) and assassinations? Turkish press is only referring to one person they are supposed to have wanted to capture, and is referring to that individual as a former member of Iran's armed forces. In other terms, potentially a traitor who was going to collaborate with Iran's external enemies in trying to destabilize Iran. That's not being a spoiler of peace, it's in fact a move to guarantee peace and security.

We also arrested zanibyoun terrorists from dens of SRA hideouts. They were planning to target sunni religious leaders. It is a matter of record not a conspiracy theory.

Some anti-Iranian media in Pakistan make lots of far reaching claims without proof. Their motivations are obvious.
 
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On paper yes, but the problem Pakistan have that we are surrounded by immature nations who just like to talk a lot of shite and pass all their problems over to Pakistan. Iran is no exception. The reason I linked the news from 2017 , is to show that this man was talking a lot of non sense back then, blaming Pakistan for not controlling the border, the question should have been asked, were YOU controlling your side of border back then. Even now, majority of terrorist activities in Pakistani Baluchistan are originating from Iran. Clearly, these people never had control of their own border to begin with but like to talk a lot of shite.
What can Pakistan do to get the Iranians to cooperate more closely on tackling the Baloch separatist terrorist threat? Iranians have been attacked by jundullah and iran suspects they have safe heavens in Pakistan. Why cant both countries create a task force and jointly take out jundullah and BLA/BRA/BLF?
 
You cant be more wrong. Why are you comparing a Pakistani Punjabi to a Indian Coastal man from Gujerat some 1500 km away. You should compare a Pakistani punjabi jat to an Indian Punjabi jat across the border for any realistic comparison ... its like I start saying oh me an azeri turk is so different from Turkish because I am dont match a Rumelian Balkan Turk from ottoman colonial legacy LOL. My match should be from eastern Anatolia across azeri border for any realistic comparision.

See this autosomal comparision of different types of Pakistanis and North Indians. Look how overlapping they cluster with eachother wehther they are Indians or Pakistanis. Makes sense too, they are bordering highly populated groups that are divided by religion only like how our Kurds are in different countries but they all cluster togather.



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Don't talk about things you have no idea about my Azeri friend, better stick to West Asian Qizilbash homo fest.

You had said Pakistanis and "North Indians" are same people. North India is Uttar Pradesh, which literally translates to Northern Province. That is why I compared non-Iranic Pakistanis with Uttar Pradesh people (North Indians) and people from Gujarat/Rajasthan (North-West Indians).

Punjab in India is only a tiny part of larger Punjab that mostly went to Pakistan. While they are same as Pakistani Punjabis, they constitute only 2-3% of India's population. They are also at same genetic distance (as Pak Punjabis) to their neighbors in Uttar Pradesh or Gujarat, because they are not generic Indians.

In the plot you posted, I can see only Iranians, Tajiks, Pakistanis and Punjabis (Jatt, Khatri, etc. from both Pak and India). The rest of India's 98-97% population is not included, meaning it was created to compare Pakistanis to Iranians and Tajiks. If other Indian population were included they would be at quite a big distance from the Pakistani-Punjabi cluster. Based on this plot no sane person can conclude mainstream Indian and Pakistanis are same people.

But there is a significant number of non-native people in Pakistan who do look like North Indians. They are the Urdu-speaking Muhajir people in Karachi who migrated from Uttar Pradesh and Bihar to Karachi, Pakistan in 1947.
 
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thankfully COAS Bajwa doesn't share your myopic, destructive sectarian thoughts and that's what enables him to command our Pak forces of all sects, creeds and ethnicities.
even Afghan Taliban have made peace with Iran despite having disagreements because both see Americans and Daesh as worse enemies of their countries.

Pakistan and Iran share far more interests than minor differences which enables to keep a relatively safe and relaxed borders enabling us to concentrate on India and its proxies.

How does dealing with Iran become a sectarian issue? So should we answer Iran's hostile actions moving forward if things don't work out, there would be a section of Pakistani population who will be opposed to that based on some misguided sectarian affiliation.

Iran's actions in the regions are not only opposed by its "Sunni" majority neighbours but also by Shia Azerbaijan and the Shia population of Iraq.

Do you mind telling us where Allah Nazar is these days?
 
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