Iranian Air Defense Systems

[Stryker1982]

Last year Mashregh published this one:
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So now we can say they got E2.

Is that chart also saying that Iran has like upwards of 9000 atgms of just fagots and konkurs?? Thats huuuuuge.


less than three minutes to reach UAE. I wonder if exist anymore after 24h with Iran.

 

[Parsipride]

 

[N_Al40]

So this has been on mind ever since the Sayyad-3 was unveiled. As you can see below the Sayyad-3 launcher, the high altitude component of the Talash System, is always equipped with only two launch canisters.

In comparison, the Sayyad-2 launcher, the medium altitude component of the Talash System, is always equipped with four launch canisters (bar one occasion).

Which brings me to the question...why? Is the Sayyad-3 missile launch system too advanced for the fire control radars and range finders to handle more than two?

Dear God I hope Bavar-373 has 4 launch canisters!

 

[eagle2007]

I was under the impression that there was some confusion with the imagery released concerning the Sayyad-3 test and the consensus was that no actual images of the Sayyad-3 was released and all the images are of a Sayyad-2 that was also launched.

The images released certainly suggest that, as the launch tubes look identical, even if they're only 2 of them. But the handy thing about such launchers is that they are easy to switch to twin/quad launch configuration. From time to time, even US Patriot launchers (original, PAC-1, PAC-2) have been seen with just two tubes instead of the typical four.

 

[Hack-Hook]

I was under the impression that there was some confusion with the imagery released concerning the Sayyad-3 test and the consensus was that no actual images of the Sayyad-3 was released and all the images are of a Sayyad-2 that was also launched.

The images released certainly suggest that, as the launch tubes look identical, even if they're only 2 of them. But the handy thing about such launchers is that they are easy to switch to twin/quad launch configuration. From time to time, even US Patriot launchers (original, PAC-1, PAC-2) have been seen with just two tubes instead of the typical four.

don't knew in some picture the missile fit into the launcher but in some its longer.

 

[AmirPatriot]

I was under the impression that there was some confusion with the imagery released concerning the Sayyad-3 test and the consensus was that no actual images of the Sayyad-3 was released and all the images are of a Sayyad-2 that was also launched.

Well certainly images of the Sayyad-3 test have been released:

But it is true that there may have been some confusion because of the identical launch canisters.

 

[eagle2007]

Ahh, good call, hadn't seen those images. Disregard then.

 

[scimitar19]

I dont believe that sayad 2 & 3 are designated by number of canister launchers, it more has to do with the vehicle footprint. In urban environment you can have both systems with two launchers on each just to blend in with other trucks in the city. In cities you can shoot and scoot in civilian truck disguised as an ice cream truck or any other truck for that purpose. Its a pretty darn fancy tactic when practiced in urban areas, where in non urban environment hiding these systems regardless weather it is with 2 or 4 launchers on each is more difficult. And what makes you think there is no stationary version buried underground with 6, 8 and so on launcher canisters just like with MRBM underground silos?!

 

[N_Al40]

I dont believe that sayad 2 & 3 are designated by number of canister launchers, it more has to do with the vehicle footprint. In urban environment you can have both systems with two launchers on each just to blend in with other trucks in the city. In cities you can shoot and scoot in civilian truck disguised as an ice cream truck or any other truck for that purpose. Its a pretty darn fancy tactic when practiced in urban areas, where in non urban environment hiding these systems regardless weather it is with 2 or 4 launchers on each is more difficult. And what makes you think there is no stationary version buried underground with 6, 8 and so on launcher canisters just like with MRBM underground silos?!

Interesting take.

Love the idea of a stationary version!

 

[Fafnir]

So this has been on mind ever since the Sayyad-3 was unveiled. As you can see below the Sayyad-3 launcher, the high altitude component of the Talash System, is always equipped with only two launch canisters.

In comparison, the Sayyad-2 launcher, the medium altitude component of the Talash System, is always equipped with four launch canisters (bar one occasion).

Which brings me to the question...why? Is the Sayyad-3 missile launch system too advanced for the fire control radars and range finders to handle more than two?

Dear God I hope Bavar-373 has 4 launch canisters!

You can find plenty of pictures online of patriot batteries with only 2 canisters on the tel as well,ultimately it doesnt mean anything especially during testing and development of the system.The real limiting factor for long range sam systems like these is the power and sophistication of its fire control radar.

 

[Fafnir]

Interesting take.

Love the idea of a stationary version!

You`d probably like this then,its a depiction of one of the dprks underground sa3 sam sites,probably built back in the 70s or early 80s to protect critical targets like pyongyang,and altho it undoubtedly gives far better protection than the semi revetted/revetted semi permanent or permanent sam sites,it like they once their exact positions are known are now very,very vulnerable to the plethora of precision guided weapons that are now easily available today,not to mention that building systems like this is not cheap,tho one possible upgrade would be to replace the old sa3 sam system with new s300 derived kn06 components.
On todays battlefield only scoot and shoot mobility can guarantee some degree of survivability for modern sam systems,the main problem with immobile systems is their inherent vulnerability to preemptive or saturation type attacks.

 

[skyshadow]

Iran DIO mass delivery LR Sayyad-3C Air Defense missiles ایران خط‌ تولید موشک صیاد۳ پدافندهوایی

Iran tests Sayyad 2 missiles

 

[B@KH]

 

[yavar]

Iran Khatam Al-Anbia AD S300 transport to Khorasan province ایران پدافند هوایی اس-۳۰۰ استان خراسان

 

[N_Al40]

Iranian air defense system passes initial tests: Commander

Tasnim – Iran’s homegrown missile defense system ‘Bavar-373’ has successfully passed all initial tests, a military commander said.

In an interview with Tasnim on Saturday, Lieutenant Commander of Khatam al-Anbia Air Defense Base General Abolfazl Sepehrirad said the Bavar-373 air defense missile system has gone through all of the initial tests successfully.

He also said that all training courses for operating the Russian-made S-300 system are currently being held inside Iran.

Iran received the S-300 from Russia in July 2016 and installed the missile system a month later.

Under a contract signed in 2007, Russia was required to provide Iran with at least five S-300 defense systems, but after its initial refusal to sell the system, Iranian experts began to manufacture a domestic version, known as Bavar-373.