Iranian Air Defense Systems

[SipahSalar]

s-200 is a relic now.
But iran was claiming they have made an indigenous system similar/better to s-300 last year/this year??

Yes, western air forces have tremendous experience going against S-200, they can easily counter it.

They make a lot of claims, it's hard to seperate milk from water.

 

[he-man]

Yes, western air forces have tremendous experience going against S-200, they can easily counter it.

They make a lot of claims, it's hard to seperate milk from water.

Without a valid video all is bullshit.
I would say even s-300 and 400 are lagging behind western stuff in sophistication as even the main radar of s-400 is still pesa,,it will be aesa for s-500 though.

 

[SipahSalar]

Without a valid video all is bullshit.
I would say even s-300 and 400 are lagging behind western stuff in sophistication as even the main radar of s-400 is still pesa,,it will be aesa for s-500 though.

Having a PESA or AESA is not everything, i believe for a ground based SAM, its more important to have a very strong ECM suite that can fight jamming.

 

[he-man]

Having a PESA or AESA is not everything, i believe for a ground based SAM, its more important to have a very strong ECM suite that can fight jamming.

Thats why aesa is far superior than a pesa,,otherwise range and power is almost comparable.
The true game changer will be GaN aesas post 2020 though.

 

[The Last of us]

It is precisely because this is an old article that you should not be posting it.
Iran has made so many advancement since this article was written.
In terms of radar, Iran has the 1100km OTH ghadir and soon to be made seperh with range of 3000km. And so many other radars.
Iran now has the sayyad 2 with range 60-100 km.
Sayyad-3 with range of 200km.
The ra'ad air defence system which currently have missiles with range of 50km but missiles with ranges of 100km and 200km are in development.

There is an alam al hoda air defence system with a very long range missile called sadid with is in development.
And let's not forget the bavar-373 will be a system compromising of 3 missiles, short range, medium, and long range.

Pictures of these missiles have already been provided in this forum but not all have been officially unveiled yet.

This article only concentrates on the older Iranian missiles. Hence it is useless.

 

[SipahSalar]

It is precisely because this is an old article that you should not be posting it.
Iran has made so many advancement since this article was written.
In terms of radar, Iran has the 1100km OTH ghadir and soon to be made seperh with range of 3000km. And so many other radars.
Iran now has the sayyad 2 with range 60-100 km.
Sayyad-3 with range of 200km.
The ra'ad air defence system which currently have missiles with range of 50km but missiles with ranges of 100km and 200km are in development.

There is an alam al hoda air defence system with a very long range missile called sadid with is in development.
And let's not forget the bavar-373 will be a system compromising of 3 missiles, short range, medium, and long range.

Pictures of these missiles have already been provided in this forum but not all have been officially unveiled yet.

This article only concentrates on the older Iranian missiles. Hence it is useless.

Well do you have a better article that is also by a professional?

 

[AUz]

Iranian Air Defense might be able to stop Iraq. Might hinder Israeli plans for a little while before Israel goes ahead and complete the mission---but infront of the U.S, Iranian defenses are non-existent.

 

[mohsen]

Iranian Air Defense might be able to stop Iraq. Might hinder Israeli plans for a little while before Israel goes ahead and complete the mission---but infront of the U.S, Iranian defenses are non-existent.

if there is an airforce, then there should be an airbase too, and our ballistic missiles will take care of them.

 

[IRAN 1802]

Iranian Air Defense might be able to stop Iraq. Might hinder Israeli plans for a little while before Israel goes ahead and complete the mission---but infront of the U.S, Iranian defenses are non-existent.

Iraq war was about 30 yeras ago ! If u say Iranian defence in front of US is non existent then I will say Pakistani defence in front of India is non existent.

 

[SipahSalar]

I think the most important part of the article is the conclusion:

Conclusion
Superficially, Iran's ground-based air defense picture appears to be relatively robust thanks to the presence and reach of the seven S-200 batteries. However, a closer analysis reveals an overall coverage which is currently full of holes and vulnerabilities that a potential aggressor could exploit. The Iranian strategic SAM force is clearly in need of a serious upgrade, one which is more substantial than simply producing modified HQ-2 missiles. The presence of air interceptors and numerous terrain constraints do explain away some of the negative aspects of Iran's SAM network, but taken as a whole it represents a relatively ineffective form of defense against a modern agressor. Given the current political climate, it would be in the best interest s of the Iranian military to proceed with a widespread upgrade, with the most effective option being the purchase of S-300PMU-2 or S-400 SAM systems for Russia, or perhaps the more cost-effective and similarly capable HQ-9 SAM system from China. Incorporating either purchase into a package deal with modern fighter aircraft such as the Su-30MK or J-10 would result in a much more robust air defense capability.

So that raises the question what is Iran doing to make up for the failure of S-300 sales? What is a good alternative? Home made SAMs? Upgraded HAWKs will not be enough since they are tactical SAMs with limited range which Iran has deployed as Strategic SAMs.

 

[yavar]

Iraq war was about 30 yeras ago ! If u say Iranian defence in front of US is non existent .

brother you need to stop responding to every nonsense post .
his understanding of Iran air defence capability is Zero , a big Zero
his just posting old article which is not a wear of anything . ]

look at what he said S200 can easily be countered .
he doesn't even understand that the Iranian S200 are not Russian S200 .
the only think which Iranian S200 has similar to Russian S200 is only airframe and rocket motors all rest inside missile has been totally changed everything even the seeker

 

[IRAN 1802]

brother you need to stop responding to every nonsense post .
his understanding of Iran air defence capability is Zero , a big Zero
his just posting old article which is not a wear of anything . ]

look at what he said S200 can easily be countered .
he doesn't even understand that the Iranian S200 are not Russian S200 .
the only think which Iranian S200 has similar to Russian S200 is only airframe and rocket motors all rest inside missile has been totally changed everything even the seeker

Ok brother sorry.

 

[haman10]

brother you need to stop responding to every nonsense post .
his understanding of Iran air defence capability is Zero , a big Zero
his just posting old article which is not a wear of anything . ]

look at what he said S200 can easily be countered .
he doesn't even understand that the Iranian S200 are not Russian S200 .
the only think which Iranian S200 has similar to Russian S200 is only airframe and rocket motors all rest inside missile has been totally changed everything even the seeker

not so long ago the AD systems of my city (kermanshah , a western province of iran) sucked real bad . as the article mentions only medium Airforces would face challenge by my city's AD systems .

US could suppress our systems and make their way out to hamedan (again a western city with a much more sophisticated AD systems )

but now , with new systems in place , i dare anyone to come even close to our city

they'll get smacked so hard they won't have enough time to eject

let me put it this way : the defense network in kermanshah can engage targets deep into iraq now . any aggressor will be engaged not in our airspace but far from iran and deep into iraq .

 

[Tomyris]

the B373 will be commissioned at what time? 2015? What are these characteristics? his worn? are radar system?

le B373 sera mis en service a quel date? 2015? quel sont ces caractéristique? sa porté? sont systeme radar?

 

[SOHEIL]