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Iran to supply Russia with “hundreds” of Drones

Reading the comments of many Iranian members on this forum regarding the Ukraine vs Russia war made my head shake and I was amazed that they are like Psychopaths who don't care or underestimate the lives/dead of people in other countries just because of ridiculous FANATISM!

Now we know that the US is far more worthy of being a WORLD POLICE compared to a bunch of countries TERRIBLE MONSTER RUSSIA CHINA IRAN NORTH KOREA (Russia who wants to colonize Eastern Europe, China who wants to colonize East Asia and the South China Sea, Iran who wants to dominate the Middle East, and North Korea who wants to colonize South Korea).
Are you talking about the same US which is sole user of nuclear bomb on civilians, among few users of chemical weapons in it's wars, murderer of 1 milion peiople just in middle east, supporter of every dictatorship and coup around the world?

lol, how much do they pay you?! :lol:
 
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Interception of another S-136 using Ukraine's ground based air defences called "The ground".
 
I ve read about Nikopol Marganets strike earlier today. Allegedly it was more massive engagment. Ukrainian army is fiering against Herson from the area using HIMARS
 
@Hack-Hook

Kid, I'm sure you got bad grades at school because you weren't good at answering! Try to read my previous post carefully for sure you will get answers to all your questions.

I already said that the amount of DAMAGE and its shape on the kamikaze drone depends on the TYPE of air defense system used such as Drone Jammer, Laser, CIWS, MANPADS, SHORAD, and medium and long range air defense.

REMEMBER that the Shahed 136 kamikaze drone (CHEAP) is different in class from the Orion UAV. From here you SHOULD understand (but in fact the opposite).

Ukraine will not use MEDIUM or LONG-RANGE air defense missiles to shoot down this S-136 drone (it's not worth the PRICE of this kamikaze drone), instead Ukraine will use cheap SHORT-RANGE air defenses such as the Stinger or Starstreak already delivered by the US, and the UK to help strengthen Ukraine's air defenses.

Unlike the Orion UAV, Ukraine will have to use medium or long range air defenses (if the UAV is detected at great distances and altitudes) to bring down these Orion UAVs because we know that these UAVs operate at an altitude of 8,000 meters.

Don't you know (or you are st**id) that the Stinger and Starstreak short-range air defense missiles used by the Ukrainian army do NOT use fragmentation warheads, so it's only natural that the S-136 debris does not have fragmentation pit marks and while the debris The Orion has that hole because it was shot down by the Ukrainian medium/or long range air defenses (which usually always use fragmentation warheads) of Ukraine.
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Reading the comments of many Iranian members on this forum regarding the Ukraine vs Russia war made my head shake and I was amazed that they are like Psychopaths who don't care or underestimate the lives/dead of people in other countries just because of ridiculous FANATISM!

Now we know that the US is far more worthy of being a WORLD POLICE compared to a bunch of countries TERRIBLE MONSTER RUSSIA CHINA IRAN NORTH KOREA (Russia who wants to colonize Eastern Europe, China who wants to colonize East Asia and the South China Sea, Iran who wants to dominate the Middle East, and North Korea who wants to colonize South Korea).
Hei @Mata Elang, why you seem so upset that Iran is providing drones to Russia..? 🤔 I mean if you really believe that these Iranian drones really are crap and that Iranian members here are just exaggerating its capabilities, then there's really nothing for you to be worried about right..? After all Ukraine has been receiving billions worth of high-end western military gears all these time... why don't you just lay back a bit, see the actual combat performance of these drones first before getting too hysterical..? 😉
 
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Interception of another S-136 using Ukraine's ground based air defences called "The ground".
Nothing can be concluded from any of these pictures, but to the end of this war, ukrinians will post a picture of its wreckage and claim successful interception.

good for them!
 
@AmirPatriot

Engari bazi as in oskol haye Irani roye twitter fekr mikonan in sare jang fail shode.

guidance section dakhele sare jangi hast (?)

Nazaret chie?
 
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REMEMBER that the Shahed 136 kamikaze drone (CHEAP) is different in class from the Orion UAV. From here you SHOULD understand (but in fact the opposite).
yeah you knew all thing , you that put a drone which can hit targets 2000km away and carru 50kg of explossive in class of a drone which had a range of 10-15km and probably carry around 250 gr of explossive
Ukraine will not use MEDIUM or LONG-RANGE air defense missiles to shoot down this S-136 drone (it's not worth the PRICE of this kamikaze drone), instead Ukraine will use cheap SHORT-RANGE air defenses such as the Stinger or Starstreak already delivered by the US, and the UK to help strengthen Ukraine's air defenses.
starstreak wont rip the drone to pieces and stinger well don't make scorch mark on the ground and is a heatseeking missile not the best tool to be used against this drone and the bodyof the stinger after explosion act as shrapnel and it have been seen on the russian helicopter hit in ukraine

by the way you get your answer as you are yet to become mature to be able to talk like a mature person not a teenager .
@AmirPatriot

Engari bazi as in oskol haye Irani roye twitter fekr mikonan in sare jang fail shode.

guidance section dakhele sare jangi hast (?)

Nazaret chie?
as i recall the explossive is in middle in head there is camerras and electronics
 
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Are you talking about the same US which is sole user of nuclear bomb on civilians, among few users of chemical weapons in it's wars, murderer of 1 milion peiople just in middle east, supporter of every dictatorship and coup around the world?

lol, how much do they pay you?!

The user has explicitly shown their true colors at last (not that it wasn't kind of apparent before):

Now we know that the US is far more worthy of being a WORLD POLICE compared to a bunch of countries TERRIBLE MONSTER RUSSIA CHINA IRAN NORTH KOREA (Russia who wants to colonize Eastern Europe, China who wants to colonize East Asia and the South China Sea, Iran who wants to dominate the Middle East, and North Korea who wants to colonize South Korea).

Pandering to the USA regime, the same regime which on top of its endless list of crimes in West Asia, has been seeking to break Indonesia apart, according to @Indos.

American (and zionist) quislings act the same everywhere.
 
Ukraine claims shootdown of Iranian UAV's ''difficult'' and asks for more additional systems to counter these drones.

Just speculating here, but the detection should be very achieve simply with EO if the AD is in the right spot, but it's RAS/RAM characteristics have proven to be effective.

The Israelis who wanted to brag about using their F-35 to down a S-181 (i think that was the version used), didn't realize the opsec mistake they made for the second time. Where they couldn't use ground-based AD to down it, and had to pull up very close either by plane or helicopter (which was the other time) to down it.
 
Just speculating here, but the detection should be very achieve simply with EO if the AD is in the right spot, but it's RAS/RAM characteristics have proven to be effective.

The Israelis who wanted to brag about using their F-35 to down a S-181 (i think that was the version used), didn't realize the opsec mistake they made for the second time. Where they couldn't use ground-based AD to down it, and had to pull up very close either by plane or helicopter (which was the other time) to down it.
Is the loitering munition the russians have been using a scaled down S-136 or identical to that used by Yemen?
 
Iran Kamakazie drones or any other drone may not work well due to weather conditions. These engines are made for hot weather. And Russian usually launch these before sunrise or after sunset when the weather is freezing cold and more cold weather is coming in the next few months. But these drones work ok after the temperature reaches a certain point during sunlight.. Basically, these weapons need modification according to the weather condition.
 
Iran Kamakazie drones or any other drone may not work well due to weather conditions. These engines are made for hot weather. And Russian usually launch these before sunrise or after sunset when the weather is freezing cold and more cold weather is coming in the next few months. But these drones work ok after the temperature reaches a certain point during sunlight.. Basically, these weapons need modification according to the weather condition.
thse engines are similar to the ones used in motorcycles , they work ok on hot and cold weather
 

Russia’s Use of Iranian Kamikaze Drones Creates New Dangers for Ukrainian Troops
Shahed-136 drones supplied to Russia carried out several devastating strikes in Ukraine’s Kharkiv region over past week, Ukrainian commanders say

Russia has inflicted serious damage on Ukrainian forces with recently introduced Iranian kamikaze drones, in its first wide-scale deployment of a foreign weapons system since the war began, Ukrainian commanders say.

Over the past week, Shahed-136 delta-wing drones, repainted in Russian colors and rebranded as Geranium 2, started appearing over Ukrainian armor and artillery positions in the northeastern Kharkiv region, said Col. Rodion Kulagin, commander of artillery of Ukraine’s 92nd Mechanized Brigade.

In his brigade’s operational area alone, the Iranian drones—which usually fly in pairs and then slam into their targets—have destroyed two 152-mm self-propelled howitzers, two 122-mm self-propelled howitzers, as well as two BTR armored infantry vehicles, he said. Before the current wide-scale use of the Shaheds, Russia carried out a test last month, striking a U.S.-supplied M777 155-mm towed howitzer with the drone, Col. Kulagin said. Another Iranian drone malfunctioned and was recovered, he said.

So far, the Iranian drones seem to have been mostly deployed in the Kharkiv region, where the 92nd Brigade and other Ukrainian forces carried out a major offensive this month, retaking some 8,500 sq. km of land occupied by Russia and seizing or destroying hundreds of Russian tanks, artillery pieces and armored carriers.

“In other areas, the Russians have overwhelming artillery firepower, and they manage with that. Here, they no longer have that artillery advantage, and so they have started to resort to these drones,” Col. Kulagin said.

Independent experts who examined photographs of recent drone wreckage from the Kharkiv region say that it appears to be Shahed-136, the latest evolution of Tehran’s delta-wing design.

Scott Crino, founder and chief executive of Red Six Solutions LLC, a strategic consulting firm, said the Shahed-136 could provide Russia with a “potent counterweight” to the high-tech weapons systems, such as Himars missile launchers, that the U.S. has provided to Ukraine.

“The presence of Shahed-136 in Ukraine war is undoubtedly changing the operational plans of Kyiv,” he said. “The sheer size of Ukraine battlefield makes it hard to defend against the Shahed-136.”

Mr. Crino said the Shahed-136 can be used with great effect with one targeting a radar system and the second one hitting artillery pieces. Iran also has antijamming systems that can make it hard for Ukrainian forces to counter, he said. “Once a Shahed locks onto target, it will be hard to stop,” he said.

Russia’s use of Shahed-136 drones in Ukraine represents the most challenging expansion of Tehran’s arsenal beyond the Middle East, where Iran has successfully used its unmanned aerial vehicles to pressure America and its allies in the region. It also highlights the deficiencies in Russia’s own drone program, which hasn’t been able to match the firepower of armed UAVs deployed by Ukraine.

Israel and the West have accused Iran and its proxies of flying armed drones to attack Saudi Arabia’s oil industry, the capital of the United Arab Emirates, American soldiers in Syria, as well as tankers in the Gulf of Oman in recent years.

The British Ministry of Defense, in its intelligence update on Sept. 14, also said it was highly likely that Russia had deployed Iranian drones in Ukraine for the first time. Noting that the Shahed-136 has a claimed range of 2,500 km, it added that so far, it appears that Moscow is using these drones for tactical strikes near front lines rather than to destroy more strategic targets deep into Ukrainian territory.

The Iranian drones are relatively small and fly at a very low altitude, making it hard for Ukrainian air-defense systems to detect them, Col. Kulagin said. He said he hoped the U.S. and allies could provide Ukraine with more advanced antidrone technologies, or would step in to disrupt Iranian drone shipments to Russia.

In July, U.S. national security adviser Jake Sullivan warned that Russian defense officials have visited Iran, preparing to purchase up to several hundred Iranian drones, including the weapons-capable ones, on an expedited timeline. At the time, Iran’s Foreign Minister Hossein Amir-Abdollahian denied the plan in a phone call with his Ukrainian counterpart and said that Tehran opposes the war on Ukraine, according to a statement by the Iranian Foreign Ministry.

Russia hasn’t publicly commented on Iranian drone purchases. Iran’s Foreign Ministry didn’t respond to a recent Wall Street Journal request to comment on the matter. The Russian ministries of defense and foreign affairs didn’t immediately respond to requests for comment.

On Sept. 8., the U.S. Department of the Treasury said it had sanctioned Iranian company Safiran Airport Services for coordinating Russian military flights that transported Iranian drones and related equipment to Russia, and Iranian drone-manufacturing companies Paravar Pars, DAMA and Baharestan Kish.

Drones of different kinds play an important role in the Ukrainian conflict, in part because neither side has air superiority and is, therefore, reluctant to use manned aircraft over enemy positions. Hundreds of military and commercial reconnaissance drones hover in the air daily along the front lines, spotting targets and guiding artillery fire.

Ukraine, unlike Russia, also operates a fleet of drones armed with missiles. These Turkish-made Bayraktar TB2 drones destroyed several Russian armored columns in the early days of the war and are being used more frequently once again, now that Kyiv has been able to weaken Russian air defenses in many areas, in part thanks to U.S.-supplied AGM-88 HARM antiradar missiles.

Both Russia and Ukraine also use kamikaze drones, also known as loitering munitions. Russia’s Kalashnikov Group has developed a homemade drone known as Kub-Bla, while Ukraine is flying Polish-made Warmate and U.S.-supplied Switchblade drones, as well as some locally-made UAVs. These munitions have a much shorter range and flying time than the Iranian-developed Shahed drones, and carry a significantly smaller payload.


Iran has emerged as one of the world’s most resourceful developers of combat drones, in part by reverse-engineering American drones that went astray over the past two decades in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Since Iran unveiled its kamikaze drones in 2016, versions of them have been used to carry out attacks across the Middle East. Last year, the British government accused Iran of using Shahed-136 drones to strike an Israeli-affiliated oil tanker off the coast of Oman, in an incident that killed two crew members. A U.S. military investigation recovered drone debris from the MT Mercer Street tanker and concluded that these were parts of Iranian made delta-wing drones.

Washington also accused Iran of using delta-wing drones as part of a coordinated 2019 attack on Saudi Arabia’s oil industry.

The U.S. and Israel have accused Iran of providing militants everywhere from Yemen to Lebanon with the training and the parts they need to develop their own drones.

Iran-backed Houthi forces in Yemen have repeatedly used delta-wing drones to carry out attacks on neighboring Saudi Arabia. In February, Israeli officials said, U.S. jet fighters brought down two Iranian delta-wing drones over northern Iraq. Israeli officials said the drones were heading for Israel.

While the Biden administration has been warning for months that Iran was preparing to provide Russia with hundreds of drones to use in Ukraine, the U.S. initially expected Tehran to have shipped drones capable of carrying missiles, not the kamikaze-style Shaheds.

Michael Knights, a military specialist at the Washington Institute for Near East Policy, a think tank, predicted that Ukrainian forces would be able to quickly counter the threat posed by Iranian kamikaze drones. “Iran’s drones look snazzy in Yemen and Syria and Gaza, but they’re increasingly blockable,” he said.

Ukraine, he said, is “a serious counter-air environment and electronic warfare environment that Iran hasn’t really experienced before.” These drones, Mr. Knights added, “tend to have effect at first and then the shock effect wears off.”
 
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