Iran to Rank 1st in Science, Technology by 2025

[NeutralCitizen]

We ARE producing more science now than we did and soon after the knowledge absorption is complete you will see a boom in science as well. But I guess people like you only listen to the Black Turbians and not to the voice of reason.

Western-Backed-funded GCC knows the West has more to offer just like Pakistan knows China has more to offer to it then the GCC. it's reality

 

[longbrained]

West did not give Gaddafi or Sadat or Mubarak, or Saddam they came on their own the only one the west installed was the Shah of Iran we did fund Saddam and Mubarak however they requested. They know the West offers more then anything Pakistan or Iran can offer them it's the truth.

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The West is only wanting to stop Iran's Nuclear ambitions, the USA has more to offer to the GCC then Iran everything Iran is doing the USA has done that. USA invests as well with GCC in scholarships, Exchanges, and many other things.

That is a lie. Saddam was a CIA asset in 1950's. And west is after killing Iranian science and not only nuclear technology. Iran was being harassed by west through sanctions, wars and terrorist attacks in 1980's and 1990's much before this nuclear issue. Yes, US of course offers some goodies and toys to GCC but those are not counted as science production by GCC as those are all products and services. Sorry but that is how science works. You can not buy it.

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We ARE producing more science now than we did and soon after the knowledge absorption is complete you will see a boom in science as well. But I guess people like you only listen to the Black Turbians and not to the voice of reason.

Well, we have not seen anything yet. When Saudi produces more science than Iran then give us a call. Till then it is all steam and no substance. This is how reason works.

 

[Mosamania]

That is a lie. Saddam was a CIA asset in 1950's. And west is after killing Iranian science and not only nuclear technology. Iran was being harassed by west through sanctions, wars and terrorist attacks in 1980's and 1990's much before this nuclear issue. Yes, US of course offers some goodies and toys to GCC but those are not counted as science production by GCC as those are all products and services. Sorry but that is how science works. You can not buy it.

Then I guess all the research we are doing in the university is a lie?? The science production of Saudi Arabia that has tripled in that last 6 years is a lie??

 

[gambit]

That is a lie. Saddam was a CIA asset in 1950's.

THAT is a lie.

 

[NeutralCitizen]

That is a lie. Saddam was a CIA asset in 1950's. And west is after killing Iranian science and not only nuclear technology. Iran was being harassed by west through sanctions, wars and terrorist attacks in 1980's and 1990's much before this nuclear issue. Yes, US of course offers some goodies and toys to GCC but those are not counted as science production by GCC as those are all products and services. Sorry but that is how science works. You can not buy it.

Thanks for the correction on Saddam however the rest came by themselves except the shah. the west is only after destroying the current regime and weakening Iran so it will never dare to rise up again. Many students and Scientists from the GCC come to the west to study and train something Pakistan and Iran can't offer to them. sure they can't buy science however they are learning from the west.

 

[NeutralCitizen]

Let me also add when Saddam take over Kuwait and was at the gates of entering SA and oh yes he would have loved to overthrow the Saudis royals and take over the holy sites, the Saudis called the USA to save Kuwait and themselves.

 

[longbrained]

Then I guess all the research we are doing in the university is a lie?? The science production of Saudi Arabia that has tripled in that last 6 years is a lie??

No that is not a lie. All countries of the world produce some science and there is no country that produces zero science. The question is how much in relation to other countries, to the world and to that country's wealth. In Saudi case it is minuscule at best. You might want to inflate that, but the truth stands that Iran is producing more and is on its way to become a major science producing country in the world among the top ten. There is no such projection about Saudi Arabia. Just building beautiful multi-billion dollar buildings and staffing them with foreign teachers and specialists does not mean science production. Actually forget about me. Do not take my word for it. Listen to this great Pakistani scientist Dr. Atta-ur-Rahman how he feels science production is going in GCC:Dr. Atta ur Rahman - YouTube

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THAT is a lie.

Yes, Saddam was a CIA assassin agent: Regime Change: How the CIA put Saddam's Party in Power

 

[longbrained]

Thanks for the correction on Saddam however the rest came by themselves except the shah. the west is only after destroying the current regime and weakening Iran so it will never dare to rise up again. Many students and Scientists from the GCC come to the west to study and train something Pakistan and Iran can't offer to them. sure they can't buy science however they are learning from the west.

You are welcome. But again you are confusing between learning and research. One is about learning what is already known and another about capability to search for new things. These are two different things. Iran is producing science all by its own under sanctions having the world's fastest growth rate in science production. Saudis are learning the knowledge that is already known by a variable degree, producing not much of their own. This is the difference.

 

[PakShah]

@ the topic

How is Iran going to be number 1 in science in the region?

Pakistan outdoes Iran in many fields.

 

[Mosamania]

You are welcome. But again you are confusing between learning and research. One is about learning what is already known and another about capability to search for new things. These are two different things. Iran is producing science all by its own under sanctions having the world's fastest growth rate in science production. Saudis are learning the knowledge that is already known by a variable degree, producing not much of their own. This is the difference.

Are you daft?? Science is about standing on the shoulders of the ones before you. Learning will lead to developing Iran did the same thing in the 50s and 60s. Don't be stupid. And Dr.Atta is right I never said we are the best I said we are improving. Keeping on saying "But Iran is better" makes you look like an idiot mainly because I never said we were better in the first place. Black Turbian Logic is beyond amazing.

 

[Abii]

@ the topic

How is Iran going to be number 1 in science in the region?

Pakistan out does Iran in many fields.

Its just a rant done by some Iranian on PDF.

before you start talking smack, check your facts
SJR - International Science Ranking
Iran is 19th in the world, Pakistan is 43rd
Iran only has to pass Turkry now (number 18) to become first in the region

also read this
Iran showing fastest scientific growth of any country - science-in-society - 18 February 2010 - New Scientist

 

[Abii]

One of the reasons Iran is improving so much is because health and education spendings in Iran, as a percentage of GDP, have always been as much as double the military spending! Our military spending is tinyyyy. Thank god the regime understands that a toy that costs billions will rot in storage and will be nothing but a waste of money while knowledge can bring 10 times the benefit to the country and even help the military.

 

[longbrained]

Are you daft?? Science is about standing on the shoulders of the ones before you. Learning will lead to developing Iran did the same thing in the 50s and 60s. Don't be stupid. And Dr.Atta is right I never said we are the best I said we are improving. Keeping on saying "But Iran is better" makes you look like an idiot mainly because I never said we were better in the first place. Black Turbian Logic is beyond amazing.

You do not get it, do you? We have only your word to feel good that Saudis are improving. As I said when Saudis start producing as much science as Iran was producing in 2010, then give us a call. I am not even saying you produce more than Iran does since by the time and IF you start reaching their level in 2010, Iranians would have progressed much more and probably would be among European level of science production. Then we would know for sure that Saudis are improving. Right now it is just talk. So give us a call then.

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@ the topic

How is Iran going to be number 1 in science in the region?

Pakistan out does Iran in many fields.

That is a good question. Because we are fighting the war on "terror", might be a good answer. The government simply does not have enough time to plan for science production when they have their hands full with matters such as, NATO dealings and back stabbings, memogate, war on terror, economy, gas and electricity shortages, law and order etc.

 

[Mosamania]

You do not get it, do you? We have only your word to feel good that Saudis are improving. As I said when Saudis start producing as much science as Iran was producing in 2010, then give us a call. I am not even saying you produce more than Iran does since by the time and IF you start reaching their level in 2010, Iranians would have progressed much more and probably would be among European level of science production. Then we would know for sure that Saudis are improving. Right now it is just talk. So give us a call then.

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It's a deal then.

 

[longbrained]

It's a deal then.

Deal. I will be waiting, Musa. I hope I am not going to be a great grand daddy by then.