Iran slams Saudi Arabia over Hajj stampede

[Xenophon]

The only thing cheap here is your honor and the value you give to Pakistani life. Those two are the only cheap things here.

I must confess though, I won't be shedding no tears. Those Iranians that put money in the pockets of Wahhabi Arabia by going to Saudi brought this on themselves. Karma's a bitch.

Ayatollah's testicle talking as he is so damn perfect .

 

[Xenophon]

Get mature kid.

Ok uncle.
As mullah regime server so well at kerbala.

 

[raptor22]

Ok uncle.
As mullah regime server so well at kerbala.

This year under the threat of ISIS around 20 millions piligrims performed their religious rites ... and comparing Iraq and Saudi is not fair .. Iraq has been in conflict for several decades ...

 

[Xenophon]

This year under the threat of ISIS around 20 millions piligrims performed their religious rites ... and comparing Iraq and Saudi is not fair .. Iraq has been in conflict for several decades ...

Same logic applies here . when i pay i need security . by the way its an accident . which can happen anywhere .

 

[Madali]

Same logic applies here . when i pay i need security . by the way its an accident . which can happen anywhere .

You say its an accident as if someone spilled ice cream on his shirt.

1000 people died. What is wrong with you people?

 

[raptor22]

Same logic applies here . when i pay i need security . by the way its an accident . which can happen anywhere .

Raping is an accident, crane was an accident, Mena was an accident, destroying 95% of Islamic historical sites in Mecca is an accident, Yemen is an accident, Bahrain is an accident, Syria is an accident ....

 

[Kambojaric]

I dont like getting involved in the usual Saudi-Iranian mess but for goodness sake using this tragedy to score brownie points! Its millions of people gathering in a small dense location in intense heat whilst performing the physical act of throwing stones. Such events are bound to happen now and then regardless of the steps the authorities take, especially given the number of uncivilized Muslims that exist out there

 

[Rasengan]

This is not a political issue. This is a situation where a country is concerned about its citizens. I would be angry at my government if my people died in an incident like this and it kept quiet. Or said, "ooof, what did you expect, there were so many people, a few of us dying here and there is not important. God give them sabr, they are shaheeds, their death is noble and they will go to heaven, now be quiet"

Every nation in the world has the obligation and duty to be concerned about its citizens, however an investigation should be carried out first to determine who was at fault. The Saudi Government must provide an independent review on the event and if negligence is found to be directed towards the security apparatus, then Iran has every moral right to complain to the Saudi regime. Personally I am not advocating the notion that Iran should keep quiet and the tragic event should be swept under the rug, however the timing of the protest should be appropriate, otherwise some will regard this into a political issue.

 

[WAJsal]

When citizens of a country die, it is the responsibility of the country to raise an issue about. India, Pakistani, and the governments of any country that has its citizen's hurt in this incident should raise their voice.

If your countrymen died in this incident, you want your government to keep their mouth shut so not to hurt the feelings of Saudi Arabia? If Iran, Pakistan, India, Bangladesh, and all these countries pressure Saudi Arabia, what's going to happen? Most likely, Saudi Arabia will put in more efforts to prevent this happening in the future.

IS THAT A BAD THING???

But some of you want your government to keep their mouth shut and just say, "well, it was their own fault"!



I missed the part in Quran , "Verily if you don't like how Holy King Salman is handling Mecca, we tell unto you, don't come" Which verse was that again?

I agree, we should all protest. With proper management such incidents are easily avoidable. RIP to the dead.

And I did not know that a time would come that even protesting over death of our citizens during Hajj could be called "sectarian" ... for God sake 1300 people died in this tragedy so thus and you expect us to stay calm ?! This year we've had raping, crane accident and now this one ... God knows what would be the next.

Rape? please elaborate...

What's wrong with putting pressure on Saudi Arabia? If it was any other country, I'd want Iran to talk about it too. If 100 citizens died due to an accident in any country, I would expect my country to raise the issue.

The Iranian government isn't bombing KSA over this. We are just protesting. 150 of our people died, and we are angry. Is that strange for you? Has our lives become so meaningless that it doesn't seem that important to you guys? If we even protest, we are the ones at fault?

Agreed with your point.

 

[anant_s]

RIP to the Dead.
May Almighty grant eternal Peace to the Departed Souls.

 

[Serpentine]

No, but there are still plenty of Shia death squads operating in both Iraq and Syria.
Lol, just because Iran's ally is a current victim of suicide bombings doesn't mean you can whitewash your history of terror, instability and screaming mullahs. This ain't one of your mullah echo chambers, kiddo. Neither is it PressTV or RT.



But the Saudi Arabian government is not keeping quiet. That's where this whole excuse to whine just collapses. They've already stuck Bin Laden Group for what happened before and they are probing into this incident. This is just the usual mad mullah droning. Don't get angry if people don't buy into your BS. Iran has a history for pushing more crap out of it's mouth than it's ***.

Maybe learning to talk civilized and giving up 'sucking up to Saudis' mentality can help to understand some of the blame that goes to Saudis.

Every year, 20 million Shias go to Karbala, a population 10 times larger than those gathering in Mena, and at the night of Arabaeen, nearly 4 million people are in the area around Imam Hussein shrine, but barely has anyone died from stampede in this ceremony and never in this huge scale. How is that?

Everyone, take a look at this video and then judge if authorities are to blame or not. This video is also from yesterday. Suddenly opening a small door for thousands upon thousands to rush in? Is that also an 'accident'?

No one says authoroties are 100% to blame. The problem is this slave-like mentality that doesn't tolerate criticizing Saudi officials even for a second. When more than a hundred of your citizens die in a country, you have every right to question the circumstances, no matter who is to blame.

 

[Strike X]

Usually pilgrims from Pakistan, India, Iran, African nationality and other poor/developing countries are undisciplined and do not know how to queue. They don't follow the rules and they are not patient. They even throw rubbish/junk on the floor instead in the bins.

Muslims (any nationality) from the west is far more disciplined, they naturally understand about the safety, queueing and following the rules.

 

[Serpentine]

Iran

Iranian pilgrims are one of the most disciplined groups in Hajj. I have been there and I have seen that, far far more organized than Pakistani, Indian, Indonesian and other countries. When you want to talk about something like this, you should avoid generalizing.

 

[Strike X]

Iranian pilgrims are one of the most disciplined groups in Hajj. I have been there and I have seen that, far far more organized than Pakistani, Indian, Indonesian and other countries. When you want to talk about something like this, you should avoid generalizing.

I went last year and I will say whatever I like from my experience.

I will say Muslims from the west, Malaysia and Singapore is far more disciplined.

 

[Spring Onion]

Hundreds of Iranian pilgrims died due to Saudi mismanagement, and when Iranians protest you call it sectarianism?

what mismanagement ? if they opted not to follow directions and led to killings of many others who's fault it is?

Anyway it is clear that KSA every year makes arrangements better than ever. So we must not indulge in sectarian bias.

they provided best facilities. one wonders if Iran has ever praised Saudi Arabia for making Hujj very easy for even elderly?