Iran says soldier shot dead by Azeri border guard

[ASQ-1918]

Head of the country - Khamenei, ethnic Azeri.
Head of army - Yahya Safavi, ethnic Azeri.
Main opposition figure, Mousavi, ethnic Azeri.

Even tho these persons are traitors, the amount of Azeri influence on Iran are so huge.

 

[Arian]

Armenia is no match to Azerbaijan in any way, you forget that it's actually Russia here that is the problem, not Armenia.

"At best"? 24% of Iran are ethnic Azeri according to Iranian government and its probably even more.

Seljuqs, Ildenizids, Ilkhanate, Qara-Qoyunlu, Aq-Qoyunlu, Safavids, Qajars. That is 7 Azerbaijani or related dynasties that have ruled Iran since 1000s! Untill Pahlavi family.

Yea. I agree that Armenia is no match to Azerbaijan economically, militarily or in any other aspects but Had Azerbaijan been the regional power it indirectly claims to be it could've persuaded Russia to stay indifferently to the Karabakh issue.

I don't know whether Iran's house of statistics publish Iran's demographics with ethnic details, I personally think it doesn't, but I know that the 24% you said is from the CIA world factbook. The Library of Congress estimates are as followings:
Persians (65%), Azerbaijanis (16%), Kurds (7%), Lurs (6%), Arabs (2%), Baluchi (2%), Turkmens (1%), Turkic tribal groups such as the Qashqai (1%), and non-Iranian, non-Turkic groups such as Armenians, Assyrians, and Georgians (less than 1%)

and most independent non-American sources (the Chinese sources for instance) agree with the later.

Ya. Thanks for the history lesson but I already knew it. but you can't also deny the fact that even during those historic periods, It was Iran that ruled over republic of Azerbaijan, Armenia and Georgia, not vice-versa. It's just a bit off-topic to talk about such historic things on this thread my friend.

 

[ASQ-1918]

I don't think Azerbaijan has claimed any status such as "regional power".

 

[Arian]

What a Bunch of Bollocks!, I Never had anything against iran but lately They are acting like Moron if you ask me. You Talk About non-Military solution yet you are the ones that send Snipers to Syria so they could help Killing innocent civils who just want more rights and freedomm, And Wherent you the ones that killed the Azeri Guards last time?. Your goverment should wise-up and take a look from a humain perspective just like Turkey did. We Love every muslim country but this is just challenging Turkish power as a Dominant Regional Power.

Who has told you that Turkey is the dominant regional power? That is your own conclusion?
If you ask me, Turkey has the right to worry about Syria because chaos in Syria does have impacts on Turkey as a neighbor. but you shouldn't have interfered in Syria directly. You won't get anything good out of Syria if you interfere in it, believe me.

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@ASQ-1981: maybe you're right. but when Aliyev talks about 'Greater Azerbaijan' in an unstable region where is the ground of battle between regional and global powers that signals the wrong message. That's what I said from the beginning, I didn't say I had anything against Azerbaijan, but I said that Azerbaijan was signaling the wrong message recently.

 

[BordoEnes]

Who has told you that Turkey is the dominant regional power? That is your own conclusion?
If you ask me, Turkey has the right to worry about Syria because chaos in Syria does have impacts on Turkey as a neighbor. but you shouldn't have interfered in Syria directly. You won't get anything good out of Syria if you interfere in it, believe me.

Quit obviously Turkey is the Dominant Power as Its Military is the most powerfull in the region and stand on the most strategic place in the world. Yeah if you took a look in the news you would see Turkey is doing that and Iran does NOT do that. Iran Directly interveres in Syria by Sending Snipers to Help the Syrian Goverment killing innocent people, While Turkey Simply Blocked Every Export and Import From/To Syria and asked UN for an Amborgy.
Ironic isnt it?

 

[Arian]

Quit obviously Turkey is the Dominant Power as Its Military is the most powerfull in the region and stand on the most strategic place in the world. Yeah if you took a look in the news you would see Turkey is doing that and Iran does NOT do that. Iran Directly interveres in Syria by Sending Snipers to Help the Syrian Goverment killing innocent people, While Turkey Simply Blocked Every Export and Import From/To Syria and asked UN for an Amborgy.
Ironic isnt it?

Turkey for sure is a regional power and everyone agrees on that but If It's quite obvious to you that It's the dominant regional power and if you insist on that, open a thread about it and let's see what other forumers think. It's a thing that should be discussed separately in details. not on this topic which is about something quite different.
The claim that Iran is sending snipers to Syria to help the regime suppress the people is only a claim. Iran has repeatedly denied any direct involvement in the crackdown. I don't buy anything that Reuters, Associated Press, Fox News or any other western newspapers claim about Iran these days. On the other hand, Turkey had threatened Syria with military action which is quite undiplomatic if you ask me. I can find the article if you want. To me, that sounds like a clear example of intervention in Syria.

 

[RazPaK]

Is this is anyway related to Iranian support of the Armenians?

 

[Abii]

Head of the country - Khamenei, ethnic Azeri.
Head of army - Yahya Safavi, ethnic Azeri.
Main opposition figure, Mousavi, ethnic Azeri.

Even tho these persons are traitors, the amount of Azeri influence on Iran are so huge.

add my grand father to the list, but what's your point?

Outside the Azari heartlands in Iran (Tabriz etc...), nobody speaks a single word of Azari even if their ancestors were ethnic Azaris. Even in Azarbaijan Persian is the official language. This has to change because I feel like minorities should be able to live in accordance to their own culture. My point is that your whole "Iran is ... % Azari" and "such and such person is Azari" has very little significance. Yeah they're Azari, I'm also half Azari but none of the people that you listed care about such stuff so what are you trying to say?

It's clear who's talking about ethnic bs here. You guys live your lives thinking about bs like this.

 

[Abii]

Quit obviously Turkey is the Dominant Power as Its Military is the most powerfull in the region and stand on the most strategic place in the world. Yeah if you took a look in the news you would see Turkey is doing that and Iran does NOT do that. Iran Directly interveres in Syria by Sending Snipers to Help the Syrian Goverment killing innocent people, While Turkey Simply Blocked Every Export and Import From/To Syria and asked UN for an Amborgy.
Ironic isnt it?

What's wrong with sending snipers to protect an strategic asset? (this hasn't been proven btw so I don't know why you're claiming this. A news article isn't proof).
name me one European or North American power that doesn't do this. It's all politics. Plus, it's to your advantage as well that Assad stays in power, I'll tell you why. Assad is more or less the Ataturk of Syria. He represents the secular minority of a country that is predominently represented by extremist salafis. Do you seriously want a Hamas like organization as your neighbors? Right now your leaders are trying to gain influence in the Arab world by acting tough against Assad. To me this has very little long term benefit for turkey. Arabs have nothing to offer to Turkey, or to any other country in the region for that matter. It's in the interest of both Iran and Turkey that the lesser of the two evils stays in power in Syria (Assad).

btw, until Turkey is able to withstand a land invasion from Iran, Turkey is not the sole regional power. Sure, Turkey has a better airforce. Can your airforce stop a million soldiers from marching in?? This was of course just a hypothetical example in response to your chest beating so don't take it personally. Having a better military means very little when we share land borders and when your military advantage isn't even that decisive.

 

[PERSIAN GOD KING]

hahahah Good luck Azerbadyan is fully backed by Turkey in Every Aspect including Military. Facing Azerbadyan meaning also facing Turkey. Plus when Iran killed Azeri Border Guards its Oke but when a Iranian is killed its not oke??

You cant even handle the PKK, and your still saying you're strong, seriously there are donkeys in the world with more common sense that you. We will see what your going to to when Iran R@pes aliyevbaijan.

 

[silko]

You cant even handle the PKK, and your still saying you're strong, seriously there are donkeys in the world with more common sense that you. We will see what your going to to when Iran R@pes aliyevbaijan.

pkk fights a different war, and it is a different topic that i wont type here. it'll take to much space and off-topic.

when a armed force meets a different countrys armed force sure, Turkey will defeat Iran. unless you resort to guerilla fighting,

 

[PERSIAN GOD KING]

pkk fights a different war, and it is a different topic that i wont type here. it'll take to much space and off-topic.

when a armed force meets a different countrys armed force sure, Turkey will defeat Iran. unless you resort to guerilla fighting,

Iran conventional military=crap
Iran missiles are what they have been investing in, Iran will turn your country into dust.
of course i see turkey as a friend but you guys need to being "provocative".

 

[BordoEnes]

You cant even handle the PKK, and your still saying you're strong, seriously there are donkeys in the world with more common sense that you. We will see what your going to to when Iran R@pes aliyevbaijan.

And you barrely can Finish the Much smaller PJAK whats your point??

 

[PERSIAN GOD KING]

And you barrely can Finish the Much smaller PJAK whats your point??

This comment really show what a idiot you are.
Iran cannot finish them? is that why they surrendered to us, and we captured of their leader. and then they moved from our kurdistan to your.

 

[BordoEnes]

What's wrong with sending snipers to protect an strategic asset? (this hasn't been proven btw so I don't know why you're claiming this. A news article isn't proof).
name me one European or North American power that doesn't do this. It's all politics. Plus, it's to your advantage as well that Assad stays in power, I'll tell you why. Assad is more or less the Ataturk of Syria. He represents the secular minority of a country that is predominently represented by extremist salafis. Do you seriously want a Hamas like organization as your neighbors? Right now your leaders are trying to gain influence in the Arab world by acting tough against Assad. To me this has very little long term benefit for turkey. Arabs have nothing to offer to Turkey, or to any other country in the region for that matter. It's in the interest of both Iran and Turkey that the lesser of the two evils stays in power in Syria (Assad).

btw, until Turkey is able to withstand a land invasion from Iran, Turkey is not the sole regional power. Sure, Turkey has a better airforce. Can your airforce stop a million soldiers from marching in?? This was of course just a hypothetical example in response to your chest beating so don't take it personally. Having a better military means very little when we share land borders and when your military advantage isn't even that decisive.

Turkey never wanted assad to step down in the first place they simply asked for a reform if you also read the news correct and killing Thousands of people just because they want more right and freedom is maddness in the first place. Turkey and Even Iran as the obvious regional powers should NOT just do nothing to the countrie can destroy itself it would give a bad reputation. Even Iran Simply asked for a reform like the rest of the Region but he didnt do anthing so clearly Politics didnt work. An attack on Syria by Turkey is more of a Warning to listen.