Iran & Russia Sign MoU on Military Cooperation

[Daneshmand]

So close to their own ideas for such cooperation:

Iran to become a real partner of Russia in opposing the aggressive lines of the West, you must immediately put the Islamic republic the most modern weapons to the Iranian army to thwart any attempt to force pressure, primarily from the US. First of all we are talking about the most advanced air defense systems, such as air defense system "S-300" and "S-400", "armor", etc. Washington understands that the ability of the Iranians to destroy virtually all military aircraft and missiles the US stationed in the Persian Gulf, will bring to "no" effectiveness of the American military presence in the region and weaken the position of Saudi Arabia, Qatar and other US allies in the region. To strengthen the defense capabilities of the armed forces of Iran also need to put a significant amount of multi-role fighters MiG-29 SMT last modification, MiG-31, as well as heavy fighters Su-30 4+ generation that completely neutralizes any potential aggressor, aimed at Iran. It is necessary to strengthen the ground forces, primarily due to their armored component, through the supply of hundreds of T-90 tanks and armored personnel carriers, modern rocket and artillery systems, etc.

Given the extent of the Iranian coast and finding ships in the Gulf of the 5th US fleet based at Bahrain, it would be appropriate to provide Iran with assistance in establishing a reliable defense system, including a system of coastal defense and based on coastal missiles K300 "Bastion" designed to destroy surface ships of various classes and types from the landing connections convoys, ship and aircraft carrier battle groups, as well as single ships and ground-based radio-goals under intensive fire and electronic countermeasures. This is actually not only disarm the entire 5th US Fleet, but the fleets of other countries of the Persian Gulf, hostile to Iran. This, of course, would cost to put the Iranian navy modern surface ships and submarines of different classes, as well as technically strengthen marine units, primarily due to their amplification helicopter group consisting of troop transport helicopters and combat helicopters Ka-29 and Ka-52 . The total amount of military-technical cooperation between Russia and Iran figure could exceed 25 billion dollars. Iran - the largest to date in the world market for military-technical products.

Russia needs a strong and stable Iran

Lets see what comes out of it. As I had said, on another thread, Iran must start a serious diplomatic initiative with Russia (and even China) based on technology transfer.

 

[yavar]

That's the new russian strategy that Putin talks about because of the american support for Ukraine russian will support the enemy of america

you really think ?? you really think the new russian strategy and BSer Putin has strategy ??
with regard to Iran and Russia i can promise you nothing has changed and we already in past signed this type of military protocol which meant nothing absolutely nothing .

so for people who are so excited this new military protocol means nothing ZERO

Iran must start a serious diplomatic initiative with Russia (and even China) based on technology transfer.

there NO must and we don't need it either .
thanks for let us know what we must do . but i have to disappoint but is not happening

what you mean solved ?? we told to get money and we want our money back . the rest is BS .
and it does not matter what we sign in 2002 we signed military protocol which meant nothing in 2005 signed military protocol which meant nothing in 2007 we signed military protocol which meant nothing in 2008 we signed military protocol which meant nothing so..............................
+++++ we signed so many military protocol which meant nothing like Shafaq plane + satellite station + Kilo submarine in 1990 + launching Satellite + Bushehr Nuclear facilities and plan +++++++


so this s military protocol which means nothing this is all BS means a big Zero

 

[mohsen]

you really think ?? you really think the new russian strategy and BSer Putin has strategy ??
with regard to Iran and Russia i can promise you nothing has changed and we already in past signed this type of military protocol which meant nothing absolutely nothing .

so for people who are so excited this new military protocol means nothing ZERO

they just have agreed to solve the S-300 case (not to deliver them), with the current soft policy of the Rohani, it's not surprising if we hear the deal for S-300 has been cancelled.

 

[yavar]

they just have agreed to solve the S-300 case (not to deliver them), with the current soft policy of the Rohani, it's not surprising if we hear the deal for S-300 has been cancelled.

brother mohsen i am surprise you saying that .
you usually smart and not miss the point .

brother can you tell me how many military protocol we signed with Russia so far in past 25 years ??

Russia has lost lawsuit in 2013 and they been given find of 4 billion dollars which it has to pay to Iran and as long aspass they have to pay the interest on as well..
now we have international lawsuit and it been do and fully legitimate .
and i can tell you they never pay the 4 billion .

He came to Iran accepting red carpet but what did he get ??

we told him he need to pay our money back the rest is BS


whether he want to deliver the S300PUMx or not we rather get our money back from the ba***ds.
we can do with money and we no longer do need Russia sh@t

 

[mohsen]

brother mohsen i am surprise you saying that .
you usually smart and not miss the point .

brother can you tell me how many military protocol we signed with Russia so far in past 25 years ??

Russia has lost lawsuit in 2013 and they been given find of 4 billion dollars which it has to pay to Iran and as long aspass they have to pay the interest on as well..
now we have international lawsuit and it been do and fully legitimate .
and i can tell you they never pay the 4 billion .

He came to Iran accepting red carpet but what did he get ??

we told him he need to pay our money back the rest is BS


whether he want to deliver the S300PUMx or not we rather get our money back from the ba***ds.
we can do with money and we no longer do need Russia sh@t

Russians offered some other sh!ts as a replacement, so again the question is what's our decision. And I have already seen the preference of Mr Rohani.

 

[yavar]

Russians offered some other sh!ts as a replacement, so again the question is what's our desision. And I have already seen the preference of Mr Rohani.

brother why do you think the ba***d are making these offer now ?? why?? do you think Russians just now start loving Iran ??
of course NOT

the real reason they are now offering these is because we don't need it technically or technologically

look is like this .

when we didn't had enrichment NO body was offering us anything with regard to enrichment .
then as soon as we have enrichment they said why do not Iran buy fuel from Russia if Iran only needs for power reactor .

again when we need it 20% enriched uranium nobody even offered it never mind selling it to us and
then as soon as we did it they start keep offering us 20% and been telling us to buy it from brazil or france or ship uranium our to Russia and then Russia going to give Iran the 20% fuel

i can give you many examples in past 37 years

trust me as soon the find out we do not need it they come forward and start offering sh@ts which we do not need .
meaning when we technologically overcome it and no longer need it to access the technology then the *** start running and come forward .

they have smell something and now they know

 

[Arminkh]

brother why do you think the ba***d are making these offer now ?? why?? do you think Russians just now start loving Iran ??
of course NOT

the real reason they are now offering these is because we don't need it technically or technologically

look is like this .

when we didn't had enrichment NO body was offering us anything with regard to enrichment .
then as soon as we have enrichment they said why do not Iran buy fuel from Russia if Iran only needs for power reactor .

again when we need it 20% enriched uranium nobody even offered it never mind selling it to us and
then as soon as we did it they start keep offering us 20% and been telling us to buy it from brazil or france or ship uranium our to Russia and then Russia going to give Iran the 20% fuel

i can give you many examples in past 37 years

trust me as soon the find out we do not need it they come forward and start offering sh@ts which we do not need .
meaning when we technologically overcome it and no longer need it to access the technology then the *** start running and come forward .

they have smell something and now they know

That's what I liked to hear!

 

[The SiLent crY]

Fu ck Russia .

They've been worse than the West .

 

[yavar]

Fu ck Russia ..

this is one of the best comment i ever heard in this forum

 

[mohsen]

Fu ck Russia .

They've been worse than the West .

No, they aren't. Russians act based on their national interests, but they had a president (in the same class of Mr Rohani) who thought a few smiles and pressing a button can solve the strategic issues with west.
but problem between us and west is a long term ideological one, see how they defend the kid killers (Israelis), they sacrifice their reputation and their national interests, just to keep the Zionist regime. it's a long time this dog's costs has superseded it's benefits. yet not only they haven't decreased their supports, but have multiplied it.
If we support Palestinian it's due to an Ideology and if Americans support Israel it's due to another Ideology too.

 

[The SiLent crY]

That's not an answer for my post , I said Russia was worse than the west and history is the proof .

The west is our enemy and its clear but Russia plays friendly and at the same time betrays us and this is worse than what our direct enemy does .

 

[Serpentine]

No, they aren't. Russians act based on their national interests, but they had a president (in the same class of Mr Rohani) who thought a few smiles and pressing a button can solve the strategic issues with west.
but problem between us and west is a long term ideological one, see how they defend the kid killers (Israelis), they sacrifice their reputation and their national interests, just to keep the Zionist regime. it's a long time this dog's costs has superseded it's benefits. yet not only they haven't decreased their supports, but have multiplied it.
If we support Palestinian it's due to an Ideology and if Americans support Israel it's due to another Ideology too.

Ok, now that their president is like 'brave Ahmadinejad', let's see if they are going to fulfill their promises.

 

[mohsen]

Ok, now that their president is like 'brave Ahmadinejad', let's see if they are going to fulfill their promises.

as I said earlier to Yavar, Now our problem is our own president who believes in generosity in return of NOTHING and calls it diplomacy.

 

[Arminkh]

as I said earlier to Yavar, Now our problem is our own president who believes in generosity in return of NOTHING and calls it diplomacy.

I think Rohani is working on publicity. For us it is so hard to understand how big a determining factor it is in the west. I heard there were some criticising the foreign minister for taking a walk with his US counterpart. Living here I understand what Zarif is doing. You can't believe how fast you can change the mood of westerner just by having a lunch with him. It is amazing how it changes their behaviour.

I first resisted the idea to have lunch with someone that I am fighting with over a contractual issue. But than I tried it once and wow! I got everything that I wanted.

 

[Hassan Al-Somal]

Minus all the political, financial and strategic flip flops, if Iran gets a chance (and has a budget) then it should immediately try to get these or latest SAMs and 4-5 sqds of Su30 jets with complete local overhaul facility on similar terms like the Indians got. Su30 is the perfect platform for Iran to patrol vast area with sufficient load to pose a serious threat to (at least) the Israeli air force.

I know many Iranian members here will start promoting their indigenous fighter projects but the fact of the matter is that none of those projects pose threat to any invading air force esp the Israeli AF.

I beg to differ. No technology that Iran buys from Russia - no matter how advance it is - will ever replace the Iranian indigenous ballistic missiles, SAMs, and fighter jet development. Truth is, Russia will never sell any thing that can challenge Israel, even its export systems will be easily compromised by Iran's potential enemies such as Israel. Iran is already following the correct missile, fighter jet, and SAM policy and should stay on that approach. If Iran ever acquires advance Russian fighter jets, it should be used for reverse engineering purposes. Of course, Russian President Putin has a time to change course, and the fruits of this MoU remains to be seen