Iran Protests - Irani Girls Burning Their Veils !!!

[Wergeland]

If this is what protesters want your tv stations should just broadcast it to the people in Iran.
People like this just want to be "free" degenerates and let west to pimp them while they extract natural wealth of country.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1573762484091092994

I am gonna tell something that clever westerners know deep down.

The Western Civilization has pushed itself into a one way alley it cannot get out of. When you use radical feminist, LGBT and stuff like that to paint your enemy black. Then you reduce your option to change the course of your own society.

Everyone know Europe is far below healthy reproduction. When you use these literally degenrate (which is the accurate word for it) societal elements to set the standard for how to live and make them idols. Well, you are not exactly helping yourself regarding your own future.

Who will pay pensions?
Who will take care of sick and old?
who will construct and build?
when one day there are far too few young adults left

 

[Wergeland]

You are wrong again, Afghanis loves boys than girls/women, and drugs instead gold.


My point was that Pakistanis loves shariah, Islam, but want to live in Europe/America under secularism. Pakistanis on social media sites/forum use fake id, and claim they are afghanis, iranis (and some even claim they are girls), and defend shariah, mullahism. but this is hypocrisy of people in this country. Iranis, Afghanis, and even saudis no more love for shariah and veils.
These were Iranis generals who enforced mullah and same saudi kings, and same was zia ul haq & co. from Pakistan who enforced talibs support from west/US. If you talk with any afghanis they hate mullah and they want democracy, same in saudi, iran. Erdogan like dictator who is puppet of US, he use religion for politics, but turks love secularism. People who saw shariah or shariah like laws they want to get rid of. you like my words or not, this is reality.and in pakistan in every sect mosques, people from other sect not allow in their mosques, they call each other infidel, idol worshipper, they just want shariah for their own government.

If what you say is correct then Pakistanis would have emigrated to forexample tribal african lands where there are no Islam or Sharia, nor Christianity. Where women do not cloth themselves publicly.

People emigrate for betterment of their life. For security and job opportunites.

 

[mulj]

I am gonna tell something that clever westerners know deep down.

The Western Civilization has pushed itself into a one way alley it cannot get out of. When you use radical feminist, LGBT and stuff like that to paint your enemy black. Then you reduce your option to change the course of your own society.

Everyone know Europe is far below healthy reproduction. When you use these literally degenrate (which is the accurate word for it) societal elements to set the standard for how to live and make them idols. Well, you are not exactly helping yourself regarding your own future.

Who will pay pensions?
Who will take care of sick and old?
who will construct and build?
when one day there are far too few young adults left

There is something diabolic in how they want to push everybody down that spirale.
Maybe that is why they are trying hard to change other countries in order to delay their physical demise and replacement in future.

 

[kingQamaR]

These clerics must have had mothers, grandmother's even wife's and daughters at some point in their lives, what if it happened to one of them would they just stand by and say they deserved it, come on show some respect

 

[CLUMSY]

People of Pakistan can learn from Iranians. Murder by government authorities happens daily here but public does nothing. The education of basic human rights among a people makes or breaks a nation.

 

[kuge]

What should we think now? Apparently no beating happened?

https://twitter.com/x/status/1573071962892648449

a commentator shows a video of the woman in the police station collapsed without anyone doing anything to her....is that true?

 

[kuge]

This Khomeini mullah dynasty must need to be ended. Historically Iranians are liberal , less religious people. They are no way compatible with the mindset governing them.
Secondly there is no reason why such Persian beauties should be covered.

i know little about historical iranians religiousity but during the PAhlavi dynasty female had very low literacy in iran contrary to popular belief that iran was more liberal in the 70s' era.
IT was believed CIA instigated a revolution to overthrow the democratically elected gov that was trying to state-owned the petroleum controlled by BP.

 

[Falcon29]

They aren't against hijab. They're against corruption in name of religion of Iranian elite. Iranian elite are God-less people that employ Islam to enforce their rule and usurp resources/wealth of the nation. They also use it to get with many women, whether legally or illegally. If Iranians point out this hypocrisy they get arrested/killed. So now they're taking the frustration out on hijab because Iranian elite shamelessly lying against God and hiding behind religion to justify their behaviors.

Every secular/absolute/islamist regime/govt are all shamelessly lying against God if it suits them and only concerned with worldly desires.

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[aziqbal]

Iran is supplying weapons to Russia so now US has gone into overdrive to cause unrest in Iran

Iran must come down on these terrorist like a ton of bricks

 

[WarKa DaNG]

Iran is supplying weapons to Russia so now US has gone into overdrive to cause unrest in Iran

Iran must come down on these terrorist like a ton of bricks

I was just thinking about it. Maybe Iran is getting ousted because they sold drones and loitering munitions to Russia

 

[SalarHaqq]

In Pakistan they were funded by NGO who were (officially) receiving their funds from different western govts under different disguise. Many got caught and lost their license. In Iran has to be covert funding.

In addition to this, there's also a fifth column supporting them discretely and indirectly: the reformist and moderate political factions.

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@drmeson

It's a ethnicity issue.

Non-Persian-Iranian are second class citizen.

Iran regime can kill non-Persian protestors and nothing happen, that doesnt unstabilize the Persian regime.

Iran is a Persian supremacist state in the core, with a buffer zone of Kurdish and Arab people in the border.

The woman killed by morality police was in Tehran, but she wasn't Persian. So it's not a problem for Persian people.

1) There's no morality police in Iran. Every domestic law enforcement task is performed by the one and the same police force (except for traffic regulation, since traffic police is a separate branch).

2) Nobody asked the lady what her "ethnicity" is. And most demonstrations and riots took place in Tehran, with heavy participation of Persian-speakers.

So when Iranian regime kill non-Persian protestors is just a coincidence.

And Iranian ruling elite must be Kurdish and Arab, because Iranian are not obsessed with ethnicity.



When you rule a state, ethnicity is always important.

And when people make mayhem in streets it's often because they are poor and/or they have shitjobs.

Non-Persian people are the cheap labour force of Tehran. That's the problem and it's not the piece of clothe on the head.

Complete nonsense.

Ali Khamenei, Supreme Leader of the Islamic Revolution and highest authority in Iran : Azari-speaker, not "Persian".

Baqer Qalibaf, Speaker of Majles (Parliament) and former law enforcement chief : Kurdish-speaker, not "Persian".

Ali Larijani, former Speaker of Majles, a highly influential figure for many years : Mazandarani-speaker, not "Persian".

Sadeq Amoli Larijani, former Head of Judiciary : Mazandarani-speaker, not "Persian".

Mohammad Baqeri, Chief of Staff for the Armed Forces : Azari-speaker, not "Persian".

Shahram Irani, Commodore of the Navy : Kurdish-speaker, not "Persian".

Tehran Grand Bazar shopkeepers (traditional bourgeoisie) : all linguistic and religious communities, with a strong presence of Azari-speakers.

And so on, and so forth. Anywhere one will look, no matter which state institution or positions of power, every linguistic group is represented.

Moreover, there's no such thing as a strict division of Iranians into "ethno"-linguistic group, for the majority of Iranians are of mixed linguistic backgrounds.

If there's one country where access to jobs and official positions isn't conditioned upon "ethnicity", it'll be precisely Iran.

 

[BHAN85]

In addition to this, there's also a fifth column supporting them discretely and indirectly: the reformist and moderate political factions.

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@drmeson



1) There's no morality police in Iran. Every domestic law enforcement task is performed by the one and the same police force (except for traffic regulation, since traffic police is a separate branch).

2) Nobody asked the lady what her "ethnicity" is. And most demonstrations and riots took place in Tehran, with heavy participation of Persian-speakers.



Complete nonsense.

Ali Khamenei, Supreme Leader of the Islamic Revolution and highest authority in Iran : Azari-speaker, not "Persian".

Baqer Qalibaf, Speaker of Majles (Parliament) and former law enforcement chief : Kurdish-speaker, not "Persian".

Ali Larijani, former Speaker of Majles, a highly influential figure for many years : Mazandarani-speaker, not "Persian".

Sadeq Amoli Larijani, former Head of Judiciary : Mazandarani-speaker, not "Persian".

Mohammad Baqeri, Chief of Staff for the Armed Forces : Azari-speaker, not "Persian".

Shahram Irani, Commodore of the Navy : Kurdish-speaker, not "Persian".

Tehran Grand Bazar shopkeepers (traditional bourgeoisie) : all linguistic and religious communities, with a strong presence of Azari-speakers.

And so on, and so forth. Anywhere one will look, no matter which state institution or positions of power, every linguistic group is represented.

Moreover, there's no such thing as a strict division of Iranians into "ethno"-linguistic group, for the majority of Iranians are of mixed linguistic backgrounds.

If there's one country where access to jobs and official positions isn't conditioned upon "ethnicity", it'll be precisely Iran.

Thanks for the information.

It can't be expected that someone from a state saying his state is racist. But ethnicity is the base of ruling of every state of this world, even the less racist modern states like USA (American ruling elite are anglo and Jewish origin).

Everytime I see Iranian police kill some protestors, the victim always is non-Persian, but must be just a coincidence .

And it's just a coincidence that the poorer zones are non-Persian, of course.

To the ethnicity margination you can add religion exclusion, if you are not shiite, you are second class people.

 

[SalarHaqq]

Thanks for the information.

It can't be expected that someone from a state saying his state is racist. But ethnicity is the base of ruling of every state of this world, even the less racist modern states like USA (American ruling elite are anglo and Jewish origin).

Forget about that, I provided actual evidence to substantiate the reality I described. Evidence you choose to ignore, preferring to come up with the same baseless allegation.

The country's supreme political authority grand-ayatollah Khamenei is a native Azari-speaker, this alone makes the "ethno"-centrism narrative falter.

Also with regards to racism, let us not project the history of other parts of the world onto Iran, shall we.

Everytime I see Iranian police kill some protestors, the victim always is non-Persian, but must be just a coincidence .

Even in the recent riots, most violent rioters killed for attacking the police were Persian-speakers.

And it's just a coincidence that the poorer zones are non-Persian, of course.

Factually incorrect again.

Some of the provinces with lower income in Iran have majority Persian-speaking populations, Kerman for instance.

Conversely, some of those with higher GDP figures have a majority non-Persian population, such as Khuzestan.

Where are the estimated >60% of Iranians with multiple linguistic roots on that map (e.g. Kurdish-speaking father & Azari-speaking mother, Persian-speaking father & Gilaki-speaking mother etc etc etc)? Can't see them.

So map's not to be taken seriously, it leaves out the largest group of all.

To the ethnicity margination you can add religion exclusion, if you are not shiite, you are second class people.

Speakers of languages other than Persian and non-Shia Muslims are in a perfectly enviable position in Iran.

 

[BHAN85]

Forget about that, I provided actual evidence to substantiate the reality I described. Evidence you choose to ignore, preferring to come up with the same baseless allegation.

The country's supreme political authority grand-ayatollah Khamenei is a native Azari-speaker, this alone makes the "ethno"-centrism narrative falter.

Also with regards to racism, let us not project the history of other areas onto Iran, shall we.



Even in the recent riots, most unlawful rioters killed were Persian-speakers.



Factually incorrect again.

Some of the provinces with the lowest income in Iran have majority Persian-speaking populations: Yazd and Kerman for instance.

Conversely, some of those with the highest GDP have a majority non-Persian population, such as Khuzestan.



Where are the estimated >60% of Iranians with multiple linguistic roots on that map (e.g. Kurdish-speaking father & Azari-speaking mother, Persian-speaking father & Gilaki-speaking mother etc etc etc)? Can't see them.

So map's not to be taken seriously, it leaves out the largest group of all.



Speakers of languages other than Persian and non-Shia Muslims are in a perfectly enviable position in Iran.

You are a fanatic, but you give useful information, so thank you.

Khuzestan province is the rich oil province and his high GDP is due to that, but obviously local people doesnt smell that money, the real richer zone of Iran is Tehran (the capital, like every country of this world).

Well it's nothing strange, it happens everywhere, like Mexico and the rich oil zone of Campeche.

The woman killed was non-Persian. When people protests because they have no water in Iran buffer zones in the border, the dead are non-Persian, and so on.

When I see rich kids of Tehran in Instagram, I only see white Persian people.

Every state works that way, one ethnicity ruling elite abuse and dominate anothers, and that's is not a problem for sustain the state working well.

The problem is when your abuse your own ethnicity people, then your state become unstable, and police start to disobbey orders.

 

[OldenWisdom...قول بزرگ]

I am gonna tell something that clever westerners know deep down.

The Western Civilization has pushed itself into a one way alley it cannot get out of. When you use radical feminist, LGBT and stuff like that to paint your enemy black. Then you reduce your option to change the course of your own society.

Everyone know Europe is far below healthy reproduction. When you use these literally degenrate (which is the accurate word for it) societal elements to set the standard for how to live and make them idols. Well, you are not exactly helping yourself regarding your own future.

Who will pay pensions?
Who will take care of sick and old?
who will construct and build?
when one day there are far too few young adults left

Exactly!
Who will set the agenda!!!
What is in fact moral or just?
Who makes laws?

Saturation has caused momentary lapse and our self infatuated bubble has disconnected us from reality.