Iran launches advanced Jamaran destroyer

[TOPGUN]

Bro, actually, it is not advanced destroyer.........

Please consider this PNS Zulifqar Frigate specificiation if you think it is advanced than F-22 equipped with long range surface-to-surface and surface-to-air missiles

Tonnes: 3144

Speed: 29 knots
Complement: 202 crew (14 officers and 188 sailors)

Miles Range: 4,000 nautical miles
Helicopters (for Anti-Submarines): Z-9EC

Missiles:

Eight C-802/CSS-N-8 sub-sonic Saccade anti-ship missiles

-Eight-round FM-90 surface-to-air missile (SAM)

Three ET-52C torpedoes

- Latest Russian 76mm gun


Including
- Close-in-Weapon System (CIWS)
- sensors, electronic warfare and advanced command and control system
- RDC-32 type rockets and electronic support and counter measures (ESM/ECM) systems

Radars systems
- SUR 17 air surveillance radar
- SR-60 air/surface search radar
- KH 2007 navigation radar
- Type 347 CIWS fire-control radar
- CIWS electro-optical director
- Radar warning receiver suite

PN recently received second PNS Shamsheer 252, third PNS Saif 253 (almost done) and last frigate sooner than expected.




There is my wingman haha thx bro for opening some closed eyes lolz

 

[Abi]

This ship's anti-ship and anti-air missiles have a larger range than the F-22P. Now lets not turn this into a X Vs. Y discussion. That is not what i intended to do. I was just giving you some specifications that you can compare with the F-22P.

 

[unicorn148]

The destroyer may or may not be advanced than f22p but they made it on their own (indigenous)

 

[su-47]

It is a frigate. Journalists don't know anything about the military. Just yesterday, the BBC showed a video of an APC and called it a Tank. The journalists just used a dictionary and literally translated as a Destroyer in English. This is a frigate and the Iranian Navy has said this already in Persian.

By the way, there is nothing wrong with its' firepower, it has a SAM system with a range of at least 32km, . It also has anti-ship missiles with a range of 200km. That is more firepower than the F-22p.

I feel it might be a little too light to be a frigate. 1420 tonnes is larger than a standard corvette, but much lighter than a modern frigate. Even the lightest frigates are more than 3000t. Jamaran is more like a heavy corvette. The Turkish Milgem class has a 2000t displacement and is classified as a corvette. Ofcouse, I am basing all this on Western and Russian classification. Iran might use a different classification.

Abi, a ship's firepower is not measured just by the range of tis SAMs or AShMs, but also its systems, and more importantly, its integration with the rest of the Navy. Even 1970 era SAMs had great range. Also 200 km AShMs are meaningless unless the ship can track its opponents at 200km! So the AShMs range will be limited by the ship's radar effectiveness. Also, Jamaran seems to lack any stealth features, something that is common in 21st century warships.

Look I am not trying to put the ship down. My knowledge is not sufficient for me to carry out an in-depth study on this. But I do feel that this ship is limited by its size. It might not be able to take on larger vessels equipped with better radars and EW capabilities.

However, this hip can be very effective in conjunction with a destroyer, should Iran ever build/acquire one.

 

[cabatli_53]

First of All Congrat for Iran nation...

I also think that Jamaran should not be classified like Destroyer cause of size and displacement based on Western standarts. I want to give some examples from Turkish ship programs by tonnages to enlighten this issue.

Milgem Corvette= 2000 Tonnes
TF-100 Frigate = 3500-4000 tonnes (Planned)
TF-2000 AAW Destroyer = 6500-7000 Tonnes(Planned)

About Development criterias of a ship to call it like "Advanced" in current century depends on;

Stealth design characteristics
Stealth Paints
Stealth Materials
Decreased IR track not to be hunted by enemy missiles
Development of 3D radars
Sonar detection capabilities(Ceramic and transducer capabilities)
Torpedo countermeasure systems
The range of Anti-ship missiles along with Radars
Command-Control software effectiveness
Otonom detection-tracking capabilities and intelligent computer systems..


If Jamaran carries many of those, We can call it like Advanced...

 

[Macbeth]

It isn't meant to act as a destroyer. Using your logic, the latest FACs in the world are useless because they're not as capable as destroyers?

tehn what does this mean "Iran launches advanced Jamaran destroyer "

 

[Abi]

tehn what does this mean "Iran launches advanced Jamaran destroyer "

In Persian it means "Iran launches advanced warship".

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

Hope Iran makes 10 Jamraans soon !!!

 

[no_name]

It is very good achievement on behalf of iranian people and scientists but I also think it is more along the class of a frigate.

regards,

 

[Abi]

It is very good achievement on behalf of iranian people and scientists but I also think it is more along the class of a frigate.

regards,

It is a Frigate according to the Iranian Navy. You see, "warship" in Persian sort of translates into "destroyer" and journalists cannot tell the difference between a Frigate and a Destroyer.