Iran has two months until Azerbaijan prescribes polo to itself

[rmi5]

Blah blah blah blah! The same ******** Kurd crying from you again and again. You Persians and Kurds are also nothing than Mesopotamians and Elamites whose ancestors were too weak to keep their language and adopted the language of simple Aryan nomads.

If we use Surenas logic, that would be exactly as you said. Anyways, genetics also proves that Kurds and persians have more J2 haplogroup than R1a haplogroup which it clearly shows they are more connected to mesopotamia and elamites than Aryans.
There is nothing wrong about having mongoloid or mesopotamian genes. There is no need to be racist based on genes.

 

[Surenas]

If we use Surenas logic, that would be exactly as you said. Anyways, genetics also proves that Kurds and persians have more J2 haplogroup than R1a haplogroup which it clearly shows they are more connected to mesopotamia and elamites than Aryans.
There is nothing wrong about having mongoloid or mesopotamian genes. There is no need to be racist based on genes.

Iran's J2 subclade is indigenous, let alone the fact that according to the largest genetic tests ever conducted among Iranians, the only haplogroup IJ sample (from which the Haplogroups I and J originated) has been found in Iran, at the Caspian Sea, indicating that Haplogroup I and J spread from Iran towards Europa and the Middle East.

Here:

Dienekes’ Anthropology Blog: Huge study on Y-chromosome variation in Iran (Grugni et al. 2012)

One of the most interesting finds is the presence of a few IJ-M429* chromosomes in the sample. Haplogroup IJ encompasses the major European I subclade, and the major West Asian J subclade. The discovery of IJ* chromosomes is consistent with the origin of this haplogroup in West Asia; it is widely believed that haplogroup I represents a pre-Neolithic lineage in Europe, although at present there are no Y chromosome-tested pre-Neolithic remains.

And:

This also explains the contrast between Iranian and Armenian groups: the latter mostly lack the R1a lineage, contrasting with all Iranian groups (even their Kurdish neighbors) who possess it. Conversely, Iranian groups, and especially eastern Iranians and Indo-Ayrans lack the R1b lineage. This is due to the fact that neither R1a nor R1b were originally part of the Indo-European community, but their geographical position was such that they came under the influence of the Indo-Europeans when the latter began their expansion.

 

[rmi5]

The image of Kurds in Iran is quite positive; in contrast to Azeris, there are no 'insulting' jokes about Kurds. Kurds are considered to be a joyful people, due to their music and dancings, while subsequently being considered to be a people you don't mess around with.

I just say LOLz show your statement to some Iranians randomly and let me know how many of them will laugh at you.

Kurds are Iranian and have always been part of Iran, the 'land of the Iranians (Aryans)'.

Try to tell this to your PJAK, Komeleh, and Democrat friends. BTW, be aware that they don't cut your head off for saying this.

The bottom line is you are really a racist retard. As I told you before:
Iran is not your property, try to educate yourself and try to learn how to respect others from other ethnicities.

 

[Surenas]

I just say LOLz show your statement to some Iranians randomly and let me know how many of them will laugh at you.

Find me one Iranian who claims otherwise.

Try to tell this to your PJAK, Komeleh, and Democrat friends. BTW, be aware that they don't cut your head off for saying this.

And what do all these organizations have in common? Right, their communist/socialist character. Should I start about pro-Russian Azerbaijani communist separatists in the 20st century in Iran?

Iran is not your property, try to educate yourself and try to learn how to respect others from other ethnicities.

I am the highest educated member around here. What are you talking about?

 

[rmi5]

Find me one Iranian who claims otherwise.

I remembered Modarres's comment when they told him that you haven't earned any vote, and he said what about my vote that I wrote my name on it?!!!
I would be The first one.

And what do all these organizations have in common? Right, their communist/socialist character. Should I start about pro-Russian Azerbaijani communist separatists in the 20st century in Iran?

Are they militaristic active like PJAK?

I am the highest educated member around here. What are you talking about?

It seems that you are not familiar with the concept of modesty even a little bit.
maybe as you said you guys are very joyful.

 

[rmi5]

@Surenas
Do not go off-topic again. in every single thread in which there is a link to azeris, you try to bash us. I have hardly tried to act friendly with you, but you always try to be a racist retard, What's the deal?

 

[Surenas]

@Surenas
Do not go off-topic again. in every single thread in which there is a link to azeris, you try to bash us. I have hardly tried to act friendly with you, but you always try to be a racist retard, What's the deal?

I can't overlook the fact that Azerbaijanis are currently the most active group in 'stealing' Iran's heritage, trying to spread their pan-Turkic views in Iran (the theory that Azerbaijanis of Iran are part of the Turkic race and therefor should seek independence), etc.

 

[rmi5]

I can't overlook the fact that Azerbaijanis are currently the most active group in 'stealing' Iran's heritage, trying to spread their pan-Turkic views in Iran (the theory that Azerbaijanis of Iran are part of the Turkic race and therefor should seek independence), etc.

mate, as long as we respect each other's ethnicity, and culture, ... we won't have any problem.
I know what you mean, but believe me that you are wrong. The way to oppose separatism is not bashing ethnicities. We need to respect them , educate them, and help them and treat them fairly. Azerbaijan's government position about Iran, is heavily influenced by Azerbaijan-Armenia conflict in which Iran didn't help them, and also their fear from spreading religious based activities there. I have friends, and acquaintances in Azerbaijan republic, and that's what I have heard a lot. On the other hand, Turkey is helping them a lot, and you wonder why panturkism gets popular?
The same thing is somehow true with Tajikstan, in which Russians and even Chinese have better policy about them in comparison to Iran.
If you want to oppose those mentalities, you need to be active instead of being passive and try to help them instead of bashing and threatening them.

 

[Surenas]

mate, as long as we respect each other's ethnicity, and culture, ... we won't have any problem.
I know what you mean, but believe me that you are wrong. The way to oppose separatism is not bashing ethnicities. We need to respect them , educate them, and help them and treat them fairly. Azerbaijan's government position about Iran, is heavily influenced by Azerbaijan-Armenia conflict in which Iran didn't help them, and also their fear from spreading religious based activities there. I have friends, and acquaintances in Azerbaijan republic, and that's what I have heard a lot. On the other hand, Turkey is helping them a lot, and you wonder why panturkism gets popular?
The same thing is somehow true with Tajikstan, in which Russians and even Chinese have better policy about them in comparison to Iran.
If you want to oppose those mentalities, you need to be active instead of being passive and try to help them instead of bashing and threatening them.

Did they ever asked for help? Your notion is partially true, but you should bear in mind that former Azerbaijani presidents like Abulfaz Elchibey were anti-Iranian mainly due to their pan-Turkic ideology.

 

[rmi5]

Did they ever asked for help? Your notion is partially true, but you should bear in mind that former Azerbaijani presidents like Abulfaz Elchibey were anti-Iranian due to their pan-Turkic ideology.

have palestinians asked us for help? but we helped them. Did they need to ask about it? Really?
Based on what I have heard from people of Azerbaijan republic, they have overall negative view about him. Anyway, he was the only person who had this radical ideas and no wonder that people didn't tolerate him, and he got replaced very quickly.
Anyways, if you want that Azeris like Iran, you need to be active and be friend with them and help them.

 

[SOHEIL]

As an Azari Iranian >>> screw all pan-Turkic @$$holes !

 

[Armstrong]

Butt sb. only one word "Ka" is urdu in our national anthem rest is Persian

Really ?

If someone were to say 'Halem Shoma Chetoriii...' or something in Persian I wouldn't understand anything but I can understand the entire National Anthem !

I think its in Urdu but its in the kinda Urdu that Ghalib, Mir, Iqbal etc. used the one in which loan-words from the Persian Language were used till the point that they became a part of Literary Urdu & are well understood by those Urdu-Daans who actually know the finer points of the language !

Apart from what people are saying here , I like some of Eqbal's poems such as these ones :

چون چراغ لاله سوزم در خیابان شما

ای جوانان عجم جان من و جان شما


غوطه ها زد در ضمیر زندگی اندیشه ام

تا بدست آورده ام افکار پنهان شما


مهر و مه دیدم نگاهم برتر از پروین گذشت

ریختم طرح حرم در کافرستان شما


تا سنانش تیز تر گردد فرو پیچیدمش

شعله ئی آشفته بود اندر بیابان شما


فکر رنگینم کند نذر تهی دستان شرق

پارهٔ لعلی که دارم از بدخشان شما


میرسد مردی که زنجیر غلامان بشکند

دیده ام از روزن دیوار زندان شما


حلقه گرد من زنید ای پیکران آب و گل

آتشی در سینه دارم از نیاکان شما​

Especially this one :

مریم از یک نسبت عیسی عزیز

از سه نسبت حضرت زهرا عزیز


نور چشم رحمة للعالمین

آن امام اولین و آخرین


آنکه جان در پیکر گیتی دمید

روزگار تازه آئین آفرید


بانوی آن تاجدار «هل اتی»

مرتضی مشکل گشا شیر خدا


پادشاه و کلبه ئی ایوان او

یک حسام و یک زره سامان او


مادر آن مرکز پرگار عشق

مادر آن کاروان سالار عشق


آن یکی شمع شبستان حرم

حافظ جمعیت خیرالامم


تا نشیند آتش پیکار و کین

پشت پا زد بر سر تاج و نگین


وان دگر مولای ابرار جهان

قوت بازوی احرار جهان


در نوای زندگی سوز از حسین

اهل حق حریت آموز از حسین


سیرت فرزند ها از امهات

جوهر صدق و صفا از امهات


مزرع تسلیم را حاصل بتول

مادران را اسوهٔ کامل بتول


بهر محتاجی دلش آنگونه سوخت

با یهودی چادر خود را فروخت


نوری و هم آتشی فرمانبرش

گم رضایش در رضای شوهرش


آن ادب پروردهٔ صبر و رضا

آسیا گردان و لب قرآن سرا


گریه های او ز بالین بی نیاز

گوهر افشاندی بدامان نماز


اشک او بر چید جبریل از زمین

همچو شبنم ریخت بر عرش برین


رشتهٔ آئین حق زنجیر پاست

پاس فرمان جناب مصطفی است


ورنه گرد تربتش گردیدمی

سجده ها بر خاک او پاشیدمی
​

Try listening to this, its by Iqbal & is sung by a Sheiki, an Iranian who came to Pakistan & became one of us ! :

And this other one is again by Iqbal & is sung by Sheiki & Mahjabeen Kizalbassh (a Pakistani of Persian Descent) :

You'd like it too @<u><a href="http://www.defence.pk/forums/member.php?u=148656" target="_blank">rmi5</a></u>
@rmi5

 

[Sugarcane]

Really ?

If someone were to say 'Halem Shoma Chetoriii...' or something in Persian I wouldn't understand anything but I can understand the entire National Anthem !

I think its in Urdu but its in the kinda Urdu that Ghalib, Mir, Iqbal etc. used the one in which loan-words from the Persian Language were used till the point that they became a part of Literary Urdu & are well understood by those Urdu-Daans who actually know the finer points of the language !

All these are common words between Urdu & Persian - But when i say it's Persian than it's not just because of these words, the composition of sentences is also Persian grammatically except the place where "Ka" is used to make sentence based on Urdu grammar. You can understand it because these words are used in classic Urdu and you know the meaning so you can grasp the meaning of sentence. For example you can understand the meaning of "me went restaurant ate pizza" but this sentence is not correct as per english grammar

 

[Rostam]

this madar sage jende must be taught a lesson:

It is time that previous soviet occupied Iranian territories are returned to motherland Iran Zamin...

 

[Serpentine]

Too much off topics and derailing.