Iran drops by 30 ranks in list of Economic Complexity. Pakistan, Turk Rise

[KRAIT]

Pakistan rising is only on papers.. In reality we are falling!

I think Pakistan is rising in certain fields but what you are suggesting may be right if we consider entire situation. Combined growth may be negative.

Its important to separate where Pakistan is improving to improve it more, whereas learn where it is failing to focus more on the problems causing it.

 

[Hyperion]

@KRAIT - Yara, India is in a different league, so it's ridiculous to compare India to anyone other than... let's say China! A reliable jet engine is something only a handful nations have succeeded at, even China will take at least a decade more to get one working perfectly.

Space tech is no joke, however, sending a rocket with a 100 - 300 kg primitive junk in very low polar orbit is no problem. Give me the money, even I will succeed within a year. No friend, there is a difference between having REAL space tech, and wannabe space tech.

And about the bomb, LOL, forget it. We know very well where they stand.

 

[KRAIT]

Do you know Nature ? There is an article from it.

Turkey and Iran made the most gains. Turkey's output rose from 5,000 papers in 2000 to nearly 22,000 in 2009, almost trebling from 0.7% to 1.9%. Meanwhile, Iran's productivity in research papers jumped from 0.2% to 1.3%.
Report tracks standard of research in Middle East : Nature Middle East

Do you know Wired.com ?

Iran is the fastest growing country for science. In 1996, the Middle-Eastern country produced just 736 scientific papers -- in 2008, it published 13,238.
China, Turkey and Iran emerge as scientific giants (Wired UK)


One PDF on sudy on Inran Research on past 35 years.

Science production in Iran: The scenario of Iranian medical journals

Science production in Iran: The scenario of Iranian medical journals

Go through this thread too.

http://www.defence.pk/forums/world-...ran-went-ahead-turkey-science-production.html

I have seen and read few articles on Iran research and analysis published in renowned journals and publishers about Iran research.

 

[KRAIT]

@Mech

Done bro.

 

[KRAIT]

Third party statistics ? I am quoting Nature. Try sending them any research paper. If you are short of original idea, they will rip you apart.

Same is the case with International peer reviewed journals. These reviewers are ruthless. I know it personally because my Professor is among the well known personality in my field and reviews for few of the top journals in our field. He accidentally got a paper of his student for review, the student was also known. But even then, he rejected the paper and blasted off his student who is over 50 yers, right in front of me.

As for highly controlled environment, its up to the author to mention every assumptions, experiment conditions and so on and so forth. If reviewer of renowned journal find any missing point, out right rejection or sent for revision.

I met a person who was working for Delhi govt. on Dengue fever. They did all the study in controlled environment. I remember how many variables were mentioned by my professor to him, when he asked his help.

May be you have read some really bad papers. I usually read only those who are well known in my field or the papers published in high impact factor journals.

I know Chinese publications. I have been victim of them. Many Indians also publish in Iranian journals, which won't be accepted in US journals. There are various bad journals in India too.

I assume you are a researcher and a published author. Is it right ?

I suggest you to read research papers from good journals only. Otherwise you might get misdirected. Indian authors have earned bad name because of their factory making style, quantity over quality, which affects people like us a lot.

 

[Mech]

@Mech

Done bro.

Its just a precautionary measure my friend. I hope you understand considering the nature and patrons of this forum. Im really just here for some cheap pervy fun trolling.

Might as well, considering they refuse to perm ban/delete my account.

 

[Mech]

Third party statistics ? I am quoting Nature. Try sending them any research paper. If you are short of original idea, they will rip you apart.

Same is the case with International peer reviewed journals. These reviewers are ruthless. I know it personally because my Professor is among the well known personality in my field and reviews for few of the top journals in our field. He accidentally got a paper of his student for review, the student was also known. But even then, he rejected the paper and blasted off his student who is over 50 yers, right in front of me.

As for highly controlled environment, its up to the author to mention every assumptions, experiment conditions and so on and so forth. If reviewer of renowned journal find any missing point, out right rejection or sent for revision.

I met a person who was working for Delhi govt. on Dengue fever. They did all the study in controlled environment. I remember how many variables were mentioned by my professor to him, when he asked his help.

May be you have read some really bad papers. I usually read only those who are well known in my field or the papers published in high impact factor journals.

I know Chinese publications. I have been victim of them. Many Indians also publish in Iranian journals, which won't be accepted in US journals. There are various bad journals in India too.

I assume you are a researcher and a published author. Is it right ?

I suggest you to read research papers from good journals only. Otherwise you might get misdirected. Indian authors have earned bad name because of their factory making style, quantity over quality, which affects people like us a lot.

I read exclusively from good journals. Maybe the difference is more apparent in my field specifically.

I wouldn much rather prefer if you do not quote me at all when i am on non troll mode.

 

[raptor22]

I'm not in touch as much as I used to be in the academic world, however, as you have mentioned it now - I'll make an active effort to check out some key publications.

As far as I remember they were awful at whatever they did, and then all these grandiose statements coming out about "space breakthrough", "nuclear breakthrough", bla bla just pisses me off. A county that doesn't even have a dozen world renown theoretical physicists, how the hell are they going to make a bomb?

Then space.... well you know how tough space is.. it's not everyones cup of tea. India with it's might of resources and all available foreign help...................... for gods sake even with blue prints AND full GSLV engines from Russia at hand, took two decades to make some decent breakthroughs. And lets not forget the initial sounding rockets from US of A --> PSLV.

No, I still won't believe it. Specially the bomb part. I know what is involved in it. Yes maybe, they **somehow** succeed with a crude barrel type bomb, but a working nuke --- yeah right --- not for 3 more decades at-least!

During Iran-Iraq war when our cities were under attack by Iraqi missiles we didn't have one single one to avenge thus we decided to start making it by own , as matter of fact at first we did it with flue pipes and now under the toughest sanction ever we are able to put a satellite into orbit , if you look at the many countries in the ME which enjoy a strong bounds by uncle Sam and pertol dollars it's obvious that they have no choice expect to pay billion dollars to the other countries to do it on behalf of them. beside you would compare India by Iran if both of them had same conditions , while we can't buy some research equipments by virtue of being sanctioned as you said India is given rockets by USA and engine by Russia and they still need time to work on it.

and about highlighted part , I don't know what you mean ... Remember Iran had a destructive unfair and also the longest war in the last century ,8 years isn't a joke it took 10 years to recover to pre-war level , and then sanctions and again sanctions and sanctions . you show me one single nation which had the same situation and still would continues its progress as we do.

 

[The SiLent crY]

Iranian economy still needs to make the big leap from relying on natural sourches to industrial orientated economy or else there will be no future for the islamic republic of Iran...

Iranian economy sux . we need to focus on industry and decrease importing .

 

[SOHEIL]

@KRAIT - Yara, India is in a different league, so it's ridiculous to compare India to anyone other than... let's say China! A reliable jet engine is something only a handful nations have succeeded at, even China will take at least a decade more to get one working perfectly.

Space tech is no joke, however, sending a rocket with a 100 - 300 kg primitive junk in very low polar orbit is no problem. Give me the money, even I will succeed within a year. No friend, there is a difference between having REAL space tech, and wannabe space tech.

And about the bomb, LOL, forget it. We know very well where they stand.

WOW !!!

 

[RayKalm]

The list looks more or less the same from the 7 years this thread was posted. Iran relies a little less on oil while Turkey and Pakistan are slightly more complex.

 

[Hack-Hook]

when we sell oil 79% of our economy is crude oil , when we can't sell it again 79% of our export is oil, how fantastic is the oil.
I'm sure when we ran out of oil again 79% of our economy will be crude oil