Iran didn't cooperate regarding Corona : FM Shah Mehmood Qureshi

[LeGenD]

No partially, they signed the JPNO in good faith, it's not their fault that the orange idiot reneged on the deal.

You have a point, Sir.

However, Iran's greatest troubles stem from militia politics of its clergy. They are making more enemies then they can chew, and they do not even realize it. Even a madman would realize at this point that militia politics have to be curtailed at this stage but it looks like Iranian clergy have chosen to commit suicide instead.

 

[Rafi]

You have a point, Sir.

However, Iran's greatest troubles stem from its militia politics. They are making more enemies then they can chew, and they do not even realize it. Even a madman would realize at this point that militia politics have to be curtailed.

I agree but they rightly or wrongly perceived the takfiri IS as an existential national security threat and acted, similar to our own ruthless fight against ttp and other takfiri.

 

[PakSword]

Typical Pakistani government... putting blame on others for your own failure.

Can anyone answer these questions:

1 - Were all the arrival stations (airports, seaports, land border crossings) identified and marked?
2 - Did the government, after marking all the arrival stations, build quarantine facilities near them?
3 - Did the government depute medical staff and ambulances at those quarantine centers?
4 - Has the government tried to increase capacity of the existing hospitals and procured additional CCU/ ICU equipment in the last two months?
5 - Has the government notified any hotels and guest/ rest houses that they should be ready for taking quarantined citizens?
6 - Did government start any awareness campaign on electronic and print media when Wuhan was locked down and the warning was issued by WHO to declare it a pandemic?

For God sake, people stranded in Iran are our citizens.. they, by themselves, gathered at Taftan border (no one pushed them there after arresting from their hotel rooms). It is a border where our government didn't do a single thing in the past two months. We have the responsibility to take back our citizens whenever they reach a border crossing and the other country is not ready to keep them. LET'S STOP MAKING OURSELVES A JOKE AROUND THE WORLD.

The government of Pakistan didn't make any facility on our side of the border, and we were expecting Iran to keep them on their side of the border (when hundreds gathered there). Are we so naive that we expect that on Irani side of Taftan border, they had a nice place to keep hundreds of people for extended period of time so that Pakistani government takes another month to build something for them?

This is an extremely useless government.. Imran Khan should now come out of this mentality of saving money for later. Just because he wants to punish media, he didn't run an awareness campaign because media would have earned some money.

Imran Khan should stop embarrassing us now.

I have so many problems with Iran, but in this particular case, the sole responsibility lies with Pakistani government.. not Iran.. which is itself struggling to treat its own citizens.

 

[MastanKhan]

Can't see any of these videos here in California

 

[Basel]

Why so much hate. They are our brothers.

What brothers?? Iran and KSA both have their own agenda and both are not our brothers in reality, because brothers don't use and dispose each other or stand with enemy of brother.

 

[Areesh]

Iran can manage wars and conflicts using proxies far from its borders but can't handle 3000 -4000 Pakistani zaireen

 

[PakSword]

Either china did not report truely about its deaths or the strain in italy is different from wuhan one. China showed a mortality rate of around 3℅ while Italy is showing almost 8℅.

China built hospitals and critical care units on an urgent basis to provide much needed care to critically affected patients. Clinical and other medical staff was directed to Wuhan from across China. Thousands of doctors nurses from other hospitals and their Army's medical unit joined local medical staff of Wuhan.

15 percent affected people require hospitalization. 5% are sent to ICUs.

When a country runs out of hospital beds and critical care units, the death rate increases exponentially.

Imagine a point where none of the 15 percent are admitted to a hospital because they are all full. How many do you think will survive? Italy is at this stage where they are running at 100% occupancy of hospital and critical care spaces. Most of the new infected people who require hospitalization are being denied.

At one point, world will have to appreciate Chinese speed and dedication.

 

[Big Tank]

So far the most dumbest FM I've seen in life. Who comes to media and blames a country for not *cooperating* against a Virus they're fckd up from.

That's what happens when you allow the most important ministry to a thug peer who has no educational background with Diplomacy and International Relations.

During Zardari era he was the biggest American lobbyist in Pakistan. I remember his speeches in America where he said *What is Iran scared of?* *America posses no threat to Iran but Iran itself*.

I can expect him blaming Iran for funding the TTP.

 

[PakSword]

Iran can manage wars and conflicts using proxies far from its borders but can't handle 3000 -4000 Pakistani zaireen

Bhai, there's no space on that side of the border too.

When our people gathered (in hundreds) at the border, Iran that was itself battling the crisis couldn't do anything.

 

[LeGenD]

I agree but they rightly or wrongly perceived the takfiri IS as an existential national security threat and acted, similar to our own ruthless fight against ttp and other takfiri.

Sir,

Correct approach was to work with Iraqi establishment (government + military) in this capacity and not create Shiite militias for the needful. For the sake of argument, let us assume that these Shiite militias were a necessity at the time, they have SERVED their purpose and should be disbanded now. However, Iranian clergy will not disband these Shiite militias because they grant them leverage in Iraqi affairs; many Iraqi are upset over this dynamic and feel that things were much better under Saddam regime for all its FLAWS. Iranian collusion with non-state actors is not limited to Iraq but encompass Yemen, Syria, Lebanon and even Pakistan. Iranian clergy also attempted a coup in Bahrain but failed there. This is not an acceptable dynamic to many in those countries, GCC at large and average Pakistani.

Americans worked with Iraqi establishment (government + military) to counter ISIS movement within Iraq (Operation Inherent Resolve). Similarly, Americans worked with Pakistani establishment (government + military) to counter Al-Qaeda Network within Pakistan (Operation Enduring Freedom), and also helped Pakistan Army in routing TTP movement. This is CORRECT APPROACH to tackle the menace of terrorism in a functioning country.

 

[Areesh]

Bhai, there's no space on that side of the border too.

When our people gathered (in hundreds) at the border, Iran that was itself battling the crisis couldn't do anything.

Well it was Iran that gave them visa for Ziarat

At least Iran could have cooperated with GoP and kept them for few days before sending them into Pakistan

I am not giving Pakistani government a free pass. Yes they are responsible too

But Iran surely threw Pakistan under the bus. Not that I am surprised by that. But yeah that is the case here

 

[HAIDER]

Typical Pakistani government... putting blame on others for your own failure.

Can anyone answer these questions:

1 - Were all the arrival stations (airports, seaports, land border crossings) identified and marked?
2 - Did the government, after marking all the arrival stations, build quarantine facilities near them?
3 - Did the government depute medical staff and ambulances at those quarantine centers?
4 - Has the government tried to increase capacity of the existing hospitals and procured additional CCU/ ICU equipment in the last two months?
5 - Has the government notified any hotels and guest/ rest houses that they should be ready for taking quarantined citizens?
6 - Did government start any awareness campaign on electronic and print media when Wuhan was locked down and the warning was issued by WHO to declare it a pandemic?

For God sake, people stranded in Iran are our citizens.. they, by themselves, gathered at Taftan border (no one pushed them there after arresting from their hotel rooms). It is a border where our government didn't do a single thing in the past two months. We have the responsibility to take back our citizens whenever they reach a border crossing and the other country is not ready to keep them. LET'S STOP MAKING OURSELVES A JOKE AROUND THE WORLD.

The government of Pakistan didn't make any facility on our side of the border, and we were expecting Iran to keep them on their side of the border (when hundreds gathered there). Are we so naive that we expect that on Irani side of Taftan border, they had a nice place to keep hundreds of people for extended period of time so that Pakistani government takes another month to build something for them?

This is an extremely useless government.. Imran Khan should now come out of this mentality of saving money for later. Just because he wants to punish media, he didn't run an awareness campaign because media would have earned some money.

Imran Khan should stop embarrassing us now.

I have so many problems with Iran, but in this particular case, the sole responsibility lies with Pakistani government.. not Iran.. which is itself struggling to treat its own citizens.

We love blame game and accuse each other for failures .... its our national game. No one out there to take the responsibility ..... because " allah sab theek kar daga " ..... we never leave Allah alone ....failures are always will of Allah too ................... So, Allah is the best answer.

 

[PakSword]

Well it was Iran that gave them visa for Ziarat

At least Iran could have cooperated with GoP and kept them for few days before sending them into Pakistan

I am not giving Pakistani government a free pass. Yes they are responsible too

But Iran surely threw Pakistan under the bus. Not that I am surprised by that. But yeah that is the case here

Iran gave them visa.. but you can't do anything when people gather at a border crossing where there are no facilities on both sides.

Our people, who didn't gather in the first couple of days, stayed in their hotels and decided to come later.

Our embassy in Iran should have contacted the zaireen operators and instructed them to not leave their places..

What I have heard is that our embassy in Iran did nothing.. nothing at all.. they didn't contact anyone.

 

[BATMAN]

Iran like china was hiding the extent of the disaster.

What goes in Iran, no one can say with certainty. It's a closed state for a reason.
Last time they were hiding shooting down of Ukrainian passenger plane, but got caught with pants down based on forensic and documentary evidence.

 

[Areesh]

Iran gave them visa.. but you can't do anything when people gather at a border crossing where there are no facilities on both sides.

Our people, who didn't gather in the first couple of days, stayed in their hotels and decided to come later.

Our embassy in Iran should have contacted the zaireen operators and instructed them to not leave their places..

What I have heard is that our embassy in Iran did nothing.. nothing at all.. they didn't contact anyone.

Iran actually forced these people to go to Pakistan. Iran is doing the same to Afghanistan too who have zero medical and health facilities to manage anything like Corona virus

As i said yes Pakistani government is responsible but so is Iran too who f$cked up the whole region

They can use Pakistanis and Afghanis for proxies but can't keep them for few more days